Scarborough shootings: Two killed, 19 injured

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This made news in the USA too. This scale of shooting does not happen everyday anywhere in North America.

OH??

The following are the main mass shootings that have occurred in the United States since 1999.

-- In April 1999, two teenage schoolboys shot and killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, before killing themselves.

-- In July 1999, a stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

-- In September 1999, a gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people before committing suicide.

-- In October 2002, a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

-- In August 2003 in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

-- In November 2004 in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

-- In March 2005, a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

-- In October 2006, a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

-- In April 2007, a student shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

-- In December 2007, a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

-- In December 2007, a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

-- In February 2008, a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

-- In February 2008, a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

-- In September 2008, a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

-- In December 2008, a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

-- In March 2009, a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.

-- In March 2009, a heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.

-- In March 2009, six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.

-- In April 2009, a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.

-- In November 2009, U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

-- In January 2011, a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people including a nine-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.


This doesn't include the daily shootings on the streets of Philadelphia, Chicago, DC, Houston, Miami, and so on, that are drug related, robbery, cold blooded murder or just random.

...and how did my original post to this get so twisted around that members are defending the US crime rate, rather than being greatful we live in Canada where this is not such a common occurrence.

:canada:
 

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...and how did my original post to this get so twisted around that members are defending the US crime rate, rather than being greatful we live in Canada where this is not such a common occurrence.
Your post said these incidents didn't even make the news...if that was the fact you wouldn't be able to google these events.
 

B00Mer

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Your post said these incidents didn't even make the news...if that was the fact you wouldn't be able to google these events.

geeez Walter, are you board.. it was clearly an analogy to the fact that in the U.S. shootings are so frequent that they are generally unimportant.

Look I am not bashing the U.S., I lived in Texas for 15 years as well Long Beach, CA for 2 years and a few other places. I was a truck driver and a cab driver for a year in LA.

I look back at those days as an education.. and good reason why I am back living in Canada.
 

B00Mer

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Walter, The USA - IS - the best country in the world to live.... *




* ... if you're Rich, White and Republican.
 

B00Mer

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More than likely, probably having been born and raised there. :smile:

Aaagh! yeah, suppose so.. but I think if people wanted to live in the sun, there are better places to immigrate to that the USA.

There are plenty of countries that have British Common Law and speak English.. where you can "buy" a passport, a reference used for Economic Citizenship.

St. Kitts Economic Citizenship

Belize- Immigration and Permanent Residency Requirements

Belize is my favorite, I like the Spanish culture, food and people.
 

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I noted on Global News tonight that the mayor of Toronto is both ignorant and stupid................stupid for saying TO is the safest city in North America and ignorant for saying it in the context of freshly dead and seriously injured people. What a f**King maroon!
 

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I would say that Ford takes more of the blame. His cuts to policing and services to vulnerable communities did not help. Different name; same ideology.

It does, of course, go much deeper than Harper's encouragement of a gun culture and Ford's stupidity. It goes to 30+ plus years of tac cuts and service reductions. It foes to 30+ years of Right wing ideology that has seen the growth of poverty and the end of work for many.

Gangs and violence are spawned in that vast underclass where hopelessness has become endemic. That is not a creation of Harper and Harris but of the whole ideology that begat them. We are slowly returning to a nineteenth century social division.

Most of the last 30 years we have had a Liberal government in Ottawa. Hardly right wing. Actually not even center but somewhat left of center.
 

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Most of the last 30 years we have had a Liberal government in Ottawa. Hardly right wing. Actually not even center but somewhat left of center.
Martin and Chretien were "left of centre?" Do you use Saudi Arabia as the benchmark for right of centre.

The whole world has been Right of centre since 1980. Even Blair and his Third Way was not Left of centre.
 

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Uhm, really?

How soon we forget hey?

From Wiki in regards to the Montreal Massacre....

"After claiming that he was "fighting feminism", he shot all nine women in the room, killing six. He then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, specifically targeting women to shoot. Overall, he killed fourteen women and injured ten other women and four men in just under twenty minutes before turning the gun on himself.[1][2]"

And that's just one horrific incident that pops into my head.

Of course, I'm sure the incident you see first hand will always be the worst, but geez.

I have seen several reports that had 25 people shot. However, the number seems to now be 19 + 2 dead. With the number at 25, that would have beaten the Montreal one. And I don't think anybody could forget that one -- we get reminded every year about it.



OH??

The following are the main mass shootings that have occurred in the United States since 1999.

-- In April 1999, two teenage schoolboys shot and killed 12 schoolmates and a teacher at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, before killing themselves.

-- In July 1999, a stock exchange trader in Atlanta, Georgia, killed 12 people including his wife and two children before taking his own life.

-- In September 1999, a gunman opened fire at a prayer service in Fort Worth, Texas, killing six people before committing suicide.

-- In October 2002, a series of sniper-style shootings occurred in Washington DC, leaving 10 dead.

-- In August 2003 in Chicago, a laid-off worker shot and killed six of his former workmates.

-- In November 2004 in Birchwood, Wisconsin, a hunter killed six other hunters and wounded two others after an argument with them.

-- In March 2005, a man opened fire at a church service in Brookfield, Wisconsin, killing seven people.

-- In October 2006, a truck driver killed five schoolgirls and seriously wounded six others in a school in Nickel Mines, Pennsylvania before taking his own life.

-- In April 2007, a student shot and killed 32 people and wounded 15 others at Virginia Tech in Blacksburg, Virginia, before shooting himself, making it the deadliest mass shooting in the United States after 2000.

-- In December 2007, a 20-year-old man killed nine people and injured five others in a shopping center in Omaha, Nebraska.

-- In December 2007, a woman and her boyfriend shot dead six members of her family on Christmas Eve in Carnation, Washington.

-- In February 2008, a shooter who is still at large tied up and shot six women at a suburban clothing store in Chicago, leaving five of them dead and the remaining one injured.

-- In February 2008, a man opened fire in a lecture hall at Northern Illinois University in DeKalb, Illinois, killing five students and wounding 16 others before laying down his weapon and surrendering.

-- In September 2008, a mentally ill man who was released from jail one month earlier shot eight people in Alger, Washington, leaving six of them dead and the rest two wounded.

-- In December 2008, a man dressed in a Santa Claus suit opened fire at a family Christmas party in Covina, California, then set fire on the house and killed himself. Police later found nine people dead in the debris of the house.

-- In March 2009, a 28-year-old laid-off worker opened fire while driving a car through several towns in Alabama, killing 10 people.

-- In March 2009, a heavily-armed gunman shot dead eight people, many of them elderly and sick people, in a private-owned nursing home in North Carolina.

-- In March 2009, six people were shot dead in a high-grade apartment building in Santa Clara, California.

-- In April 2009, a man shot dead 13 people at a civic center in Binghamton, New York.

-- In November 2009, U.S. army psychologist Major Nidal Hasan opened fire at a military base in Fort Hood, Texas, leaving 13 dead and 42 others wounded.

-- In January 2011, a gunman opened fire at a public gathering outside a grocery in Tuscon, Arizona, killing six people including a nine-year-old girl and wounding at least 12 others. Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords was severely injured with a gunshot to the head.


This doesn't include the daily shootings on the streets of Philadelphia, Chicago, DC, Houston, Miami, and so on, that are drug related, robbery, cold blooded murder or just random.

...and how did my original post to this get so twisted around that members are defending the US crime rate, rather than being greatful we live in Canada where this is not such a common occurrence.

:canada:

Yes, and each of these was newsworthy. And with the US population how many times bigger than Canada's, expected. I suspect the actual rate of violence over the past 20 years is roughly equal on a per capita basis.

And people are shot or stabbed in Toronto, Vancouver and Montreal too.

I noted on Global News tonight that the mayor of Toronto is both ignorant and stupid................stupid for saying TO is the safest city in North America and ignorant for saying it in the context of freshly dead and seriously injured people. What a f**King maroon!

He may be ignorant and/or stupid, but what do you expect him to say? "Toronto Sucks -- head of the hills! Let's all move to Vancouver!"? And I am not sure about safest, but it is safe. About that he is right.
 

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Martin and Chretien were "left of centre?" Do you use Saudi Arabia as the benchmark for right of centre.

The whole world has been Right of centre since 1980. Even Blair and his Third Way was not Left of centre.

Buddy you are soooooo far lost off the end of left field you have no idea where center is.
 

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Buddy you are soooooo far lost off the end of left field you have no idea where center is.
So the team that slashed the civil service with far deeper cuts than Harper has dared introduce: that cut corporate taxes and continued the shift from the people to the rich: that was so "socialist" that it made the Canadian Banking system the strongest in the world, is "left of centre."

Methinks you should take a very basic course in politics.
 

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Sorry, Walter, I was remiss in not checking the political orientation of the mayor, had I done so I would have learned he is a conservative and of course incapable of being either ignorant or stupid. :lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Sorry, Walter, I was remiss in not checking the political orientation of the mayor, had I done so I would have learned he is a conservative and of course incapable of being either ignorant or stupid. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

He is capable. He just has to work at it harder than had he been a Liberal or a Dipper.
 

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Uhm, really?

How soon we forget hey?

From Wiki in regards to the Montreal Massacre....

"After claiming that he was "fighting feminism", he shot all nine women in the room, killing six. He then moved through corridors, the cafeteria, and another classroom, specifically targeting women to shoot. Overall, he killed fourteen women and injured ten other women and four men in just under twenty minutes before turning the gun on himself.[1][2]"

And that's just one horrific incident that pops into my head.

Of course, I'm sure the incident you see first hand will always be the worst, but geez.

To be fair(and noting that you already mentioned this somewhat in your last sentence), I am sure he was somewhat in shock. I imagine that amount of carnage would be pretty overwhelming, especially at first.8O