Saudi Attacks & Repercussions.

Hoid

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I think that the definition of "work" is to achieve a goal

There was nothing achieved in Iraq beyond massive destabilization

Yes weapons can destroy things - but if you are incapable of creating anything to replace it all you get is something like ISIS filling the void.
 

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C-RAM is what the Saudis need to deploy along the border.
What the Hell is that? It's a land based version of the naval CIWS Phalanx.
What the Hell is a CIWS? It's a gatling gun that uses Doppler radar, FLIR and lasers for guidance. 4500 rounds per minute.
Israelis Iron Dome is a C-RAM that uses the gatling gun, small missles and an HEL (high energy laser).
It'll take out incoming RPG, mortar, missle or aircraft within its range.
It's the Jaque Plant of military goalies.
Jacques Plante.
 

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Pompeo calls attacks on Saudi oil facilities ��act of war�� as Trump orders increase in sanctions on Iran
Amid the escalating tensions in the region, Saudi Arabia on Wednesday presented remnants of what it said were Iranian-made weapons used in the attacks on two key oil facilities. Meanwhile, Iran warned the United States that it would broadly retaliate against any attacks on it, Iranian news agencies reported.


source: WAPO
 

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Don't have to imagine you as a drone since you continuously drone on, and on, and on about stupid sh*t that no one pays attention to.
It is the US and Israel that drone on and on.

That would explain that long brown steak on the ground after you pass as that is quite common with somebody who us actually a huge open asshole.
 

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C-RAM is what the Saudis need to deploy along the border.

What the Hell is that? It's a land based version of the naval CIWS Phalanx.

What the Hell is a CIWS? It's a gatling gun that uses Doppler radar, FLIR and lasers for guidance. 4500 rounds per minute.

Israelis Iron Dome is a C-RAM that uses the gatling gun, small missles and an HEL (high energy laser).

It'll take out incoming RPG, mortar, missle or aircraft within its range.

It's the Jaque Plant of military goalies.
Can it go 10km from the base without getting tapped when it runs out of ammo, . . . or is it magical like all the shit your side always has.
 

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MIJI. Meaconing, Intrusion, Jamming, and Interference. I was doing it in the Air Force in the 1980s. I have to presume techniques have improved.
Low tech still works too. For $30 in rocketry materials and dollarstore mylar confetti it's pretty easy to create a distraction on radar that'll enable one of those $29K UAVs to come in hugging the terrain. 10L of mylar confetti will leave a sizable radar signature that will linger.

I've made some pretty bad ass rockets when I was a sinner in my youth. It's surprising how deep a 2m piece of 750mm ABS pipe drives into the ground from 10,000ft.
 
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Pompeo calls attacks on Saudi oil facilities ��act of war�� as Trump orders increase in sanctions on Iran
Amid the escalating tensions in the region, Saudi Arabia on Wednesday presented remnants of what it said were Iranian-made weapons used in the attacks on two key oil facilities. Meanwhile, Iran warned the United States that it would broadly retaliate against any attacks on it, Iranian news agencies reported.
source: WAPO

Aren't you glad that Bolton was fired now?
 

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It is the US and Israel that drone on and on.
That would explain that long brown steak on the ground after you pass as that is quite common with somebody who us actually a huge open asshole.

There you go again trying to hit on me, when will you completely step out of the closet?
 

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Who is it that approves or disapproves of America going to war?

Is that the President?
 

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I am glad that Congress is in control of war.

And really glad the republicans don't control it.
 

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I am glad that Congress is in control of war.
And really glad the republicans don't control it.



He can call for military action against Iran, can't declare war without congress
 

MHz

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So much for US being able to defend any installation. Oops. Sales down and up for Iranian drones.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201909191076839792-us-air-defence-systems-couldnt-repel-attack-on-saudi-aramco-oil-facilities--russian-mod/

Saudi Aramco refineries were hit hard in a drone attack, claimed by Yemeni Houthis, crippling Saudi crude output for several days. In the wake of the attack, US military command for the Middle East suggested sending more air defence missile systems to Saudi Arabia after exisiting ones failed to foil the strike.

Some 88 Patriot systems deployed in Saudi Arabia failed to repel attack on Saudi Aramco oil facilities, letting dozens of drones and guided missiles get through defences, a high-ranking source in the Russian Defence Ministry said. The source dismissed the excuse that the US Secretary of State gave to explain the Patriot fiasco, noting that in fact the American air defence system simply has low efficiency.
"The secretary of state's claims that air defence systems around the world demonstrate controversial results in repelling attacks sometimes can only be taken seriously if we are speaking about a single Patriot system, covering one object. But the US had deployed a powerful air defence grid in Saudi Arabia, especially in the north, with a solid radar field", the source said.
The defence ministry source further indicated that if such an air defence grid failed to thwart the attack it means that the Aegis and Patriot’s specifications do not reflect their actual performance, as they are apparently ineffective in countering small aircraft and guided missiles. The source added that these systems are incapable of repelling a massive use of aerial weapons.
Separately, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov has called for an impartial and thorough investigation into the attack on Saudi Aramco refineries. He warned that unsubstantiated accusations against Iran allegedly being complicit in it only escalate tensions in the region.
Attack on Saudi Oil Facilities

Two oil refineries belonging to Saudi Aramco, Riyadh's state oil company, were attacked by drones and missiles on 14 September, sustaining significant damage that stopped their operations for days. This led to a substantial reduction in the country's crude output, essentially cutting it in half.


BTW, how much of that was heating oil for the east coast of Canada??
 

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You should try it

http://www.newsweek.com/can-trump-strike-iran-without-congressional-approval-1445294

Although some Democratic and Republican lawmakers agree there should be some degree of "measured response" to Iran's recent alleged aggression toward U.S. assets abroad, there is far less agreement when it comes to whether President Donald Trump could unilaterally take military action against the Middle Eastern nation without congressional approval.
Generally, Democrats tend to argue that Trump would need to seek authorization from Congress to initiate certain military operations against a foreign adversary. Many Republicans, on the other hand, point to past precedent and laws that suggest that — short of declaring war — the commander-in-chief has the authority to take action on his own.