Sask., Ottawa reach deal on greenhouse gases

[Kakato]

Exactly. Wells are spaced to tap the pool evenly but in this instance flow rates will be staggered from pump to pump. No biggie for the oil companies.

PS..the oil that was spilled will still end up in someone's fuel tank one day.

Nope,their on timers anyways so they dont start sucking sand.

We had a farmer wanting to seed a few weeks ago,we were busting our butts to get his field back but it was too wet,he kept bitching and finally the boss said pull all the iron off his field,we will put that line back on cleanup in a few months.

 

[petros]

Either way he'll still be compensated X dollars for crop loss anyway.

 

[Kakato]

Either way he'll still be compensated X dollars for crop loss anyway.

Yup,and payment for the ROW at fair market value on land he will still be able to seed and farm.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Take a look at the first item, headed invoice.

is there leakage at the Weyburn ccs project - Google Search

 

[petros]

Why are you skipping the articles that say "No leak"?

The Kerrs ****ed themselves over then decided to try to **** somebody else over because their stupidity cost them royalty and right of way cheques.

 

[CDNBear]

Because other taxes are lowered to compensate. Applied to carbon, they discourage its use. Win/win.

Applied to carbon they discourage its use, is punitive. Not neutral. It maybe neutral to the average consumer. It is punitive to industry, and small business.

Carbon taxes have been shown to work.

When many changes are made across the board to many portfolios. Not simply just applied.

The German model appears to be the only model that has worked well enough to actually raise the standard of living.

Like little progress, and the only place you know of is in Norway. Which isn't true. Tell me, who made the first social media website? Who made the first internet search engine? The first mp3 player?

At one point there were very few players, but the kinks get worked out.

Being ideological and simply calling new technology a failure because it hasn't taken off isn't pragmatic, or realistic at all. That's why I made the analogy to electric cars. They haven't taken off yet. And by the way, even if they were fueled by coal plant generated electricity, if all the cars on the road were electric that would be far less emission of greenhouse gases. Far less.

Ummmmmmmmm NO! You keep bringing up SHELL? Why are they the ones behind CCS in SK?

Andrew Scheer, Deputy Speaker and Chair of Committees of the Whole and Member of Parliament for Regina-Qu’Appelle, speaking on behalf of the Honourable Lynne Yelich, Minister of State for Western Economic Diversification, made the announcement, which allows IPAC-CO2 to proceed with start-up activities and ultimately focus on developing a greater understanding of how geological CO2 storage projects function.

“Our Government is committed to supporting innovative projects that will strengthen our economy and improve our competitiveness,” said MP Scheer. “Today’s investment for IPAC-CO2 builds on Saskatchewan’s strength as a leader in carbon capture and storage research, laying a knowledge foundation that solidifies our global presence in this field and ensures that we emerge from the tough economic times stronger than before.

“This federal funding will go a long way toward ensuring Saskatchewan remains a leader in carbon capture and storage,” Regina South MLA Bill Hutchinson said on behalf of Energy and Resources Minister Bill Boyd. “We are proud to add Western Economic Diversification Canada to our list of partners in the innovative IPAC-CO2 centre here at the University of Regina.”

With today’s $4 million federal investment, IPAC-CO2 will purchase sophisticated analytic equipment to better understand what is happening to CO2 in the subsurface and to provide better data on storage sites. It will create a Community of Practice to work with researchers, industry and regulators around the world. IPAC-CO2 will conduct modeling of carbon capture systems and, finally, it will work with the Canadian Standards Association and the International Standards Organization to develop the first national and international standards for geological storage.

Today’s funding bolsters the Government of Saskatchewan and Shell Canada commitments of $5 million each announced in November 2008 to establish IPAC-CO2 as a centre that will help make western Canada and a network of international experts the leaders in the large-scale deployment and acceptance of CCS internationally. Saskatchewan and Shell Canada have both provided a portion from their commitments to today’s announcement, while the University of Regina has contributed over $100,000 to make IPAC-CO2 a success.



More:Government of Canada supports CO2 assessment centre

Of course it is a failure and I have said clearly why it is. I expect the Bear to try to put down the references I gave but you know better who they are and how credible they are. It is a failure because it cannot deliver on the promise. Storage capacity is far more limited than thought and the security is not so great. It also, as I said, can be of litle practical se in alleviating the problem it supposedly addresses for many years by which time, it will be far too late.

Why would I say electric vehicles are a failure? They will be part of the long term solution but, not until the source of their fuel is taken away from the sources of CO2 that need sequestration.

Where is the ideology in noting what scientists are saying or statistics are showing? How is citing observation and experience ideological?

You might like to read this and the links, including one to an update by Socolow concerning his wedges.

RealClimate: Carbon Capture And Storage

The present state of CCS is that the total sequestered to this time (annually) is about 1/10th. of 1% of the amount by wich emissions need to be reduced.

I wrote of Norway because it is, by far, the most advanced in the technology and in experimental facilities. Norway, with much fanfare, a couple of years ago, announced a new facility to both sequester and test technologies. Unfortunately, it would sequester only 1/10th. of the emissions from the plant where it was to be installed. It has been delayed because, as Norway now syas, the investment is slow since it needs a price for carbon of about four times that of the present. Norway's investment has turned out to be many times what was thought to be required.

Alberta has also delayed and probably, ended some of its projects.

The point is, that CCS has been touted as the saviour and has turned out to be nothing more than a band aid. The Conservative government and the Alberta governments have been trying to sll CCS as their answer to Canada's emissions for several years. Their pretense is now blown.

In Europe several projected facilities have been stalled for the same reason.

Try to keep up! The information I posted told you what is happenoing now that reality has set in. It is not 21/2 years old.

A consumer tax will not. A carbon tax is revenue neutral and a consumer tax is not. Economists as well as scientists are in favour of a carbon tax. Interestingly, several European countries show that the populatios also favour carbon tax and pricing. They have not faced the massive disinformation campaigns that the fossil fuel industry and Right Wing political interests have foisted on Canada and the USA.

All economic examinations (or nearly all) of carbon pricing and taxing have concluded that there will be a modest cost to economies and consumers. However, that cost is on a straight comparison of economic activity and they do not account for the external benefits some of which are not measurable. When the damage to health of the present range of fuel uses and the incalcuable damages that climate change will bring, the economic benefits of ation to halt emissions and nitigate climate change are enormous.

You might like to skil through these scenarios that the USA failed to follow though with and the analyses.

The economic impacts of carbon pricing

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Read and learn and then get back to me,

PWND.

You really are pitiful.

Because I think that the investigation by an expert has some merit. Notice that he describes how it is not impermeable.

 

[CDNBear]

Read and learn and then get back to me,

PWND.

You really are pitiful.

Easy now, no need to get so upset...