Rita MacNeil calls RCMP probe 'a little bit silly'

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Maritime songstress Rita MacNeil is seen at a feminist rally during the 1970s.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNe...Feminist_historian_080805/20080805?hub=Canada

Popular Maritime singer Rita MacNeil said she had no idea she was under RCMP surveillance during an investigation into the 1970s Canadian feminist movement.

In an interview with CTV Newsnet from her home in Big Pond, N.S., MacNeil called the investigation "a little bit silly."

Two historians recently uncovered files showing RCMP spies infiltrated the women's liberation movement in Canada. Investigators conducted undercover surveillance on marches and rallies, and compiled biographical sketches on some participants, including MacNeil.

"It was a time of awareness and women fighting for specific causes that meant a lot to us," such as daycare and equal pay for the same job, said MacNeil. "As far as my part, I wrote a lot of songs."

Her album 'Born a Woman' reflects the songs of that period, she added.

One of the uncovered RCMP reports from a March 1972 meeting of feminist groups in Winnipeg stated MacNeil attended the event with a group called the Toronto Women's Caucus. The report's undercover source noted MacNeil composed women's lib songs.

"I was there to learn about the rights of women and the rights of men, and what we should do together to better the world," said MacNeil of her involvement in the movement.

She added that she is taking news of the investigation in stride.

"I don't know how else to take it. All I can do is laugh."

Steve Hewitt, a Canadian who works at the University of Birmingham in England, was one of two historians who uncovered the recently declassified RCMP files.

In an interview from Ottawa, Hewitt told CTV Newsnet he was conducting research with women's studies colleague Christabelle Sethna into the relationship between gender and security when the pair stumbled upon files from the investigation that contained MacNeil's name.

"I was surprised to see Rita MacNeil's name mainly because I didn't know that she had been involved in feminist groups in the early '80s," said Hewitt. At first he wasn't sure the file was referring to the Canadian singer, but research confirmed that it was.

"They were being spied on because at the time they were perceived to be very radical," added Hewitt about the feminist groups.

Hewitt, who has written extensively on security and intelligence, explained that the RCMP didn't have a clear mandate on what they were doing during the investigation of feminists at the time, and didn't have a clear idea of what subversion was.

Ooo... I know! To waste Tax Money.

He added that the Mounties downplayed the significance of the feminist groups because they were more familiar with investigating male protest groups.

"When you look at Canadian society, the way it has changed over the last 40 years, it has changed dramatically, especially when it comes to gender relations and these women's groups are largely responsible for that," said Hewitt. "The police didn't perceive that this change was coming about because they weren't looking in that direction basically."

The FBI was conducting similar surveillance of feminist groups in the United States at the same time, added Hewitt.

Spying on poor old Rita? It's not like she's an evil person doing evil things... besides growing and cropping dope with the Trailer Park Boys..... *snickers*

I just found this sorta funny, as I wasn't expecting this in my travels.

And besides, people seem to be wanting me to post some light hearted news :p
 

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That's interesting. I wonder how big of a group, how organized, and how loud you have to be before you make people paranoid enough to get your own undercover officers.
 

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That's interesting. I wonder how big of a group, how organized, and how loud you have to be before you make people paranoid enough to get your own undercover officers.

Hmmm.... *ponders and strokes beard..... not that one, the upper one, dirty minded people.*

I suppose we could form up one and see what happens.

So...... Who's with me?!

*Cricket has restless leg syndrome in the background as a tumble weed blows by*
 

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That's interesting. I wonder how big of a group, how organized, and how loud you have to be before you make people paranoid enough to get your own undercover officers.

You don't have to be all that big to get a demonstration of the Keystone Cops while Canadian insecurity chases its tail. For a couple of weeks after 9/11, I had that hollow sound on my phone and four-door-sedans with little hub caps parking in the church lot across from my place - and all I did was send some nasty letters (and brokered the sale of some collector firearms about ten years before that)
 

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There's probably one or two in here posing as innocent forum members[and busily tracking down our IRQ's]

*points finger and yells* WHO TOLD YOU..... er... I mean, that's just silly talk..... nobody would be coming in here just to see what we are all posting and saying :confused2::evil3:

Of course, being a forum loud mouth and opinionated jerk would be a nice cover.... heh heh heh...... :twisted:
 

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Additional Information:


Rita MacNeil performs in Peterborough, Ont. Ms. MacNeil says it boggles her mind that the RCMP would have kept tabs on her and other women involved in the 1970s feminist movement.


Surveillance 'kind of eerie' — MacNeil
http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/1071648.html

Rita MacNeil had a little chuckle on Tuesday when she learned that the RCMP had been keeping tabs on her in the 1970s, along with other members of the women’s movement.

"Maybe they have surveillance on me now," she joked. "I just finished a children’s CD."

The soft-spoken Cape Breton singer said she had no idea that the Mounties’ now-defunct Security Service had been infiltrating the women’s movement to monitor any possible link to communist ideology, as The Canadian Press reported Tuesday.

"I was a little surprised," Ms. MacNeil, 64, said in a telephone interview from her home in Big Pond.

"But nothing really surprises me anymore. It all just seemed a little silly."

The songs that came under scrutiny were those she sang at political rallies and folk festivals across the country in the early 1970s. She was part of the Toronto Women’s Caucus at the time.

Most of those songs made it onto her first album, Born a Woman. Here’s an excerpt from the title track:

The media they’ve done so fine, exploited our bodies and they buried our minds.
Follow their line and you’re sure to be another brainwashed member in society,
With a WonderBra to improve your figure and girdles designed to make you five pounds slimmer, Cover Girl to improve your complexion — oh don’t offend the male population.

Ms. MacNeil said her songs were meant to empower women. She would meet once a week with other caucus members to talk about the need for daycare, equal pay for men and women and how to change the media’s unfair portrayal of women.

"It’s kind of eerie, when you come to think of it," she said of the surveillance. "I don’t know what their full reasoning was. I heard the mention of communism — I don’t know where that came from."

Other Canadians, many of whom grew up watching Ms. MacNeil’s iconic Christmas specials, were also scratching their heads — after they stopped laughing, that is.

Under the title Communist menace Rita MacNeil, blogger Sabotabby took a couple of jabs at the RCMP.

"Yesterday . . . it came out that (the RCMP) spied on the Canadian feminist movement in the 1970s, apparently on the lookout for commie infiltrators."

"Instead, they found Canadian musical icon Rita MacNeil."

Sydney resident Krista Hooper’s eyes doubled in size when she heard about the story from a reporter.

"I’m sorry, what?" she asked, clearly baffled. "Give me a break."

"I’m just thinking, ‘Why Rita?’"

Ms. MacNeil herself did not have an answer.
 

karrie

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I have no doubt about that. Anyone who believes their privacy is respected is living in illusion. They're just a lot sneakier about it out here in the "free world"

Um... you're posting on a public forum. What privacy do you speak of? Anyone who has an illusion of their posts here being private is kind of kidding themselves.
 

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Um... you're posting on a public forum. What privacy do you speak of? Anyone who has an illusion of their posts here being private is kind of kidding themselves.

Oh ... you never post anything you don't want known online - especially in a forum. Not only do you get nosey cops snooping through your words to see what can be manipulated into a case, you have people with no lives trying to adopt yours. The privacy you think you have on the phone - or even in your own backyard - is an illusion. Big Brother IS watching.

Me? They didn't find anything to hold me on before ... and they won't find it in here either (just the occasional tease)
 

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Um... you're posting on a public forum. What privacy do you speak of? Anyone who has an illusion of their posts here being private is kind of kidding themselves.

.................8O............Better chance than their privates being posted...............:cool:


..........could happen:geek: