RIP Tammy Faye

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It really is easy, triedit, to attack those who cry "bs" without offering any kind of counterargument of your own. . .makes you look noble and you didn't even have to do anything.

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JBeee

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It really is easy, triedit, to attack those who cry "bs" without offering any kind of counterargument of your own. . .makes you look noble and you didn't even have to do anything.

Pangloss
11;36 you expect an instant answer....11;38 you give **** to her for not responding?
 

triedit

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I never said your assessment was wrong. You can believe whatever you like. I just find you...well not an optimist like Dr Pangloss. Believe it or not, sometimes a comment is just a comment, without ulterior motive.

JB--not to worry, this sort is ineffectual.
 

karrie

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For any human subjected to the slow and painful death that cancer brings, I hope they find what they were looking for at the end of their life, be it blissful peace, the fires of hell, or the nothingness of science.
 

thomaska

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Berkley Breathed captured the very essence of all the televangelists in the 80's in the comic Strip "Bloom County". I'm sure that someone here remembers Oral Bill and his crusade to send all the other preachers "home"

The comic strip explained them all very well.
 

Unforgiven

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Maybelline Mascara Stock price just went through the floor! 8O
A pair of shysters as figure head for a whole nest of vipers bilking slow witted people out of their money. Whatever it is that allows what goes around to come around saw fit to let her rot to the end of her life. That must say something of how she lived it.

I'm with Pangloss on this one. Good riddence.
 

Colpy

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Colpy:

Thanks for the correction. Do you really think she didn't know what Jimmy was up to, though?

Isn't willful blindness kind of a sin?

Pangloss

Oh, I don't think she was blind at all.......gold bathtub fixtures are a sure sign of excess...........

There is an odd thing about televangelists. They get so drowned in influence and the power they enjoy over their following, they become convinced often that they are chosen by God............so anything they do is all right.........they do believe, they can't even see the conflict.

Weird.

I used to watch Jimmy Swaggart on occassion, not because I am that religious, but because I was fascinated by his oratory, his skill at influencing a crowd.....the dramatic pauses, the animation......the guy was a master!
 

MikeyDB

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Oral Roberts, Jimmy Swaggart, Tammy and Jim Bakker, theives and liars, con-men (and con-woman) who while doing some good works, bilked the "believer" with every breath taken while counting the donations.

Death is a part of life. You start dying the moment you are born.

It's what you do with your life and whatever "purpose" you sculpt for yourself that determines the legacy you leave to those who follow.

If your "purpose" your "calling" is to care for the sick and dying, to minister to the poor and the hopeless to do what you can to help those less fortunate than yourself, this is indeed a noble undertaking.

If your "purpose" your "calling" is to use someone else's "beliefs" to coerce through fear and mollify through promise that demands nothing of you.....while you highjack the human spirit in the name of air-conditioned dog houses and consumption on the scale of kings and princes....you are at the most basic and fundamental level, a charlatan and a liar.....regardless of what you "believe".

I have less difficulty with infidelity among the TV evangelists, since I never expected them to demonstrate anything other than the fabric of lies they embrace as "belief" as their "calling". It shouldn't suprise anyone really.

Now that the Pope has settled the argument...Only the Catholic Church is the One True Faith....all others are well.....

It's the same with pedophiles and womanizers in the Catholic Church, this marketplace for the voodoo witchcraft and smoke and mirrors in the name of "god" is bound to happen. When the icons of belief, the preacher the priest and the Rabbi demonstrate that their convictions their "beliefs" don't have enough influence or strength to overcome the sinfulness of their chanted messages and chorus of how bad sinful and doomed everyone is who doesn't subscribe to the same nonsense...personally, the message couldn't be more clear.

A system of graft and theft legitimized as "government" has some checks and balances...never enough and never given the authority to mete-out consequence....but an invisible never seen, creator being who will hold you accountable after you're worm-food has only the strength of conviction that can be summoned for tooth-fairies and unicorns.

Tammy Faye Bakker or whatever the hell the particular mask might be at any given time...(pun intended) deserves nothing. Nothing from any of us, but if there is this great invisible never-present but always present "god" then how can there be any doubt that the Bakker reunion will take place where weeny roasts and marshmallows toasted to a golden brown are the daily fare...?

If slime like any of these televangelists really expect to get to heaven...that's a miracle!

Imagine how property values in hell will go down when all the priests rabbis and imams have to make room for the likes of these crooks!
 
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For any human subjected to the slow and painful death that cancer brings, I hope they find what they were looking for at the end of their life, be it blissful peace, the fires of hell, or the nothingness of science.
how do i find it odd?
It's what they seem to be looking for.Bliss sure makes sense , but the fires of hell or nothingness of science.To sek these....

If i may be so bold as to say this tells me that you believe we create our own existance. Even the hell states,or now some nether region of the athiest. After death?
I tend to go along with karma. My take on your comment goes a jump further in that we sub conciously(?) are creating our future death expierence....??



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looking for at the end of their life, be it blissful peace, the fires of hell, or the nothingness of science
just make one think is all...it really is an odd combination of thoughts....
like poetry it can be interprated.
 

MikeyDB

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Hey Doc try not to think in the literal so exclusively....

Finding out at your death that what you "believed" that your beliefs were based on truth and you were right in your thinking....

Get it?
 

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Hey Doc try not to think in the literal so exclusively....

Finding out at your death that what you "believed" that your beliefs were based on truth and you were right in your thinking....

Get it?

The main thing I remember about Jim and Tammy is that they had the dog house air conditioned...paid for by their loyal congregation..........the fools..
 
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Hey Doc try not to think in the literal so exclusively....

Finding out at your death that what you "believed" that your beliefs were based on truth and you were right in your thinking....

Get it?
Honestly not afraid to say i don't get what you just wrote....

it would be speculating....
but when i read karrie's words at about 3 in the morning the amount of thoughts that came forward were many ......this morn i tried me best to put them to paper.......

It's just me Mikey....sometimes i'll read a line or two in a forum and it will spark so much fire in me, in a good way. It's my gem collection.

Karrie's mixing looking for bliss and hell and then adding on the nothingingness of science....well come on now...talk about kicking yer thinking in the royal coccyx ;) to get er goin eh?
 

Minority Observer84

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I guess to truly sell a myth one has to believe in one's own lunacy . But does she ?
Here are some quotes from this woman :
I always say shopping is cheaper than a psychiatrist.

"I shop, therefore I am."

"There's times when I just have to quit thinking . . . and the only way I..."

"I take Him shopping with me. I say, "OK, Jesus, help me find a bargain."..."

"You can educate yourself right out of a relationship with God...."

You don't have to be dowdy to be a Christian.

Now not only is she materialistic but she's also proves herself to be a ignoramus when she refers to education .
So yeah she might have believed in god but she also loved the all mighty dollar , and was constantly involved in scandals . I'am not gona go into wether she's in hevean or hell neither exist but at least she won't be misleading and stealing money from people to buy shoes anymore.
 
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Did Tammy actually do the bilking? Did she cheat on Jim?

I've wondered all my life how these people go to sleep at night.
I mean did Oral Roberts really believe he was healing people through the tube?
Does the Pope know he has as much Divine right as lets say, durka durka.
Does the pope get dilusional upon becomeing one?
Our Queen does believe that God put her here in this capacity....

I don't know but way back in the day tent show gospel preaching was a way of life for carny like people....Hell it might even have grown out of the carny....

I think Tammy believed in the PTL her and jim created. I think she was devastated when Jim was found out. In any case I like her , even if she was : a con. Some healthy folk here smoke drugs and feel it's a good thing.
She sold her opium to people that needed it......Who are we to judge then eh?


here's a line from a song i think all evengelical preachers and popes should have sung at their funeral......


She was born in the wagon of a travellin' show
Her mama had to dance for the money they'd throw
Grandpa'd do whatever he could
Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Doctor Good

: Cher; gypsies tramps and thieves
 

Minority Observer84

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Let's not forget the devil that is PAT ROBERTSON who collected in his "mission of mercy " millions of dollars in the name of the victims of katrina and then Poof ! Jesus made all the money and any record of it's spending vanish Hallalujiah it's a miracle .