Reverend Blair said:
Don Newman I will agree with you on. The rest, well as the song says, "Let's all just agree to disagree"
Right Wing Bigotry From Alberta
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Don Newman I will agree with you on. The rest, well as the song says, "Let's all just agree to disagree"
Re: RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Actually, more than I care to admit. I watch a lot of Newsworld, but damn, I sure miss Ron and Don! Seriously, I did watch a lot during the last election, and what I saw was a very quick response to anything negative about the Conservatives, and very minimal response to anything negative about the Liberals. The CBC basically repeated the lies Martin and his bunch told, and did nothing to support Harper on his counterclaims. This was just when Adscam started to heat up and should have been a huge part of the election, but wasn't. Here is another example: If a conservative said anything controversial, it was CBC headline news for days. However, when Hedi Fry made her stupid "Cross Burning in Prince George" comment, it was mentioned midway through the news on one day. Things like this,to me, show the true bias of the CBC: emphasize anything negative about the Conservatives but gloss over anything negative about the Liberals.
Reverend Blair said:
Actually, more than I care to admit. I watch a lot of Newsworld, but damn, I sure miss Ron and Don! Seriously, I did watch a lot during the last election, and what I saw was a very quick response to anything negative about the Conservatives, and very minimal response to anything negative about the Liberals. The CBC basically repeated the lies Martin and his bunch told, and did nothing to support Harper on his counterclaims. This was just when Adscam started to heat up and should have been a huge part of the election, but wasn't. Here is another example: If a conservative said anything controversial, it was CBC headline news for days. However, when Hedi Fry made her stupid "Cross Burning in Prince George" comment, it was mentioned midway through the news on one day. Things like this,to me, show the true bias of the CBC: emphasize anything negative about the Conservatives but gloss over anything negative about the Liberals.
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Hedy Fry's comment played on CBC radio and TV for a week and she is one step ahead of being a backbencher. It was fully reported on.
What did the CBC go after Harper on? His stance on health care? Look at the things he's said over the years. His refusal to apologize for his party accusing Martin of supporting child porn? When a demonstrably false accusation like that is made about a leader, it's news. The anti-gay, pro-abortion stance of so many Reform/Alliance/Conservatives? Hey, it isn't up to the CBC to keep these people away from the microphones.
Hedy Fry's comment played on CBC radio and TV for a week and she is one step ahead of being a backbencher. It was fully reported on.
What did the CBC go after Harper on? His stance on health care? Look at the things he's said over the years. His refusal to apologize for his party accusing Martin of supporting child porn? When a demonstrably false accusation like that is made about a leader, it's news. The anti-gay, pro-abortion stance of so many Reform/Alliance/Conservatives? Hey, it isn't up to the CBC to keep these people away from the microphones.
The problem, of course Rev, is that the Liberals were putting out so many falsehoods on a daily basis, that it became easy to pick out the vague inconsistencies with the Conservatives. There were just too many lies from the Liberals to put on the news within the time allotted. 
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
The Conservatives were being far less than honest. It was an election campaign. The thing is that the Conservatives don't seem to have ever left campaign mode.
The Conservatives were being far less than honest. It was an election campaign. The thing is that the Conservatives don't seem to have ever left campaign mode.
Re: RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Kinda hard to leave election mode when the Liberals have been shown to be incompetent and corrupt. And yes, I would have no problem if the election is fought strictly on the scandal, there is no way the Liberals can honestly win that battle. Oops, there is that nasty honesty thing popping its head up again. Tell me, does anyone on this thread honestly believe that Martin either knew nothing of Adscam when he was finance minister, or was not involved? If he knew nothing, he was and is incompetent, and if he was involved, he ought to be in jail. There are really no other options, either incompetent or involved.
By the way, if the Conservatives truly have a hidden agenda like the left shamelessly claims, why has not Scott Brison outlined it? After all, he was in the party right up until the party decided it wanted someone else as a leader. Same with David Orchard. He ought to know about this hidden agenda, and if he is as po'd as he claims at the conservatives, why would he not reveal the dangerous and hidden agenda? Could it be that, golly gee, there really isn't one, but if enough people say the same thing over and over the Eastern Sheep...oops voters, will believe it anyway.
Reverend Blair said:
Kinda hard to leave election mode when the Liberals have been shown to be incompetent and corrupt. And yes, I would have no problem if the election is fought strictly on the scandal, there is no way the Liberals can honestly win that battle. Oops, there is that nasty honesty thing popping its head up again. Tell me, does anyone on this thread honestly believe that Martin either knew nothing of Adscam when he was finance minister, or was not involved? If he knew nothing, he was and is incompetent, and if he was involved, he ought to be in jail. There are really no other options, either incompetent or involved.
By the way, if the Conservatives truly have a hidden agenda like the left shamelessly claims, why has not Scott Brison outlined it? After all, he was in the party right up until the party decided it wanted someone else as a leader. Same with David Orchard. He ought to know about this hidden agenda, and if he is as po'd as he claims at the conservatives, why would he not reveal the dangerous and hidden agenda? Could it be that, golly gee, there really isn't one, but if enough people say the same thing over and over the Eastern Sheep...oops voters, will believe it anyway.
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Brison and Orchard have both spoken about the agenda of the Harperites. Brison mostly about the gay-bashing and homophobia rampant in the party, Orchard about the plans for deep integration with the US.
Funny thing about the scandal...the testimony this week that's under a publication ban isn't showing up on Republican blogs, but the Liberals are pushing to have the ban lifted. Looks like testimony goes both ways.
The worst of the scandal is over anyway. Brault's testimony is over and done and all but forgotten. If Harper wants to win an election, he's going to have to do it on policy. Considering he's about to try to defeat a budget that's suddenly very popular in Ontario (and most of the rest of the country), is for BMD, against giving gays and lesbians the same rights as the rest of us enjoy, seriously questionable on health care, seen to be in bed with the most unpopular (in Canada) US president in well over a century, seen to be in bed with a party that exists solely to break up the country etc....I don't think he's even going to manage a minority.
Brison and Orchard have both spoken about the agenda of the Harperites. Brison mostly about the gay-bashing and homophobia rampant in the party, Orchard about the plans for deep integration with the US.
Funny thing about the scandal...the testimony this week that's under a publication ban isn't showing up on Republican blogs, but the Liberals are pushing to have the ban lifted. Looks like testimony goes both ways.
The worst of the scandal is over anyway. Brault's testimony is over and done and all but forgotten. If Harper wants to win an election, he's going to have to do it on policy. Considering he's about to try to defeat a budget that's suddenly very popular in Ontario (and most of the rest of the country), is for BMD, against giving gays and lesbians the same rights as the rest of us enjoy, seriously questionable on health care, seen to be in bed with the most unpopular (in Canada) US president in well over a century, seen to be in bed with a party that exists solely to break up the country etc....I don't think he's even going to manage a minority.
Well, if Brison and Orchard have the agenda, it is hardly hidden, is it. Why don't you all get some other program besides scarey and hidden, it's a joke and reasonable people who can actually think for themselves know it.
Regarding the environment, though, it appears the Canadian Kyoto commitment may end up helping the US. As you know, the US opted out of Kyoto to focus on a US solution, spending their money on improving technology for themselves and the rest of the world. Canada, on the other hand, thinks that buying credits from some third world country will somehow magically lower our emissions. So, Canada will send billions of dollars to other countries to supposedly assist them in lowering emissions, and assuming they actually use this money for it's intended purpose, they will need new technology, which is being developed by: The US! Congratulations, all you Kyoto supporters, you will end up assisting the US. If Canada is truly committed to this, which I doubt, we should work for made in Canada solutions, and develop technology which we could then sell to the underdeveloped countries. Hell, if we want to, give it away to them, if it will make you happy. That way, we get jobs in Canada, we develop new technologies, and Canada can then hurt the US by giving away the technology we develop, while using this same new technology to reduce our emissions. We get jobs, technology, and still get to feel philanthropic by giving this away to needy countries. Everyone wins.
Regarding the environment, though, it appears the Canadian Kyoto commitment may end up helping the US. As you know, the US opted out of Kyoto to focus on a US solution, spending their money on improving technology for themselves and the rest of the world. Canada, on the other hand, thinks that buying credits from some third world country will somehow magically lower our emissions. So, Canada will send billions of dollars to other countries to supposedly assist them in lowering emissions, and assuming they actually use this money for it's intended purpose, they will need new technology, which is being developed by: The US! Congratulations, all you Kyoto supporters, you will end up assisting the US. If Canada is truly committed to this, which I doubt, we should work for made in Canada solutions, and develop technology which we could then sell to the underdeveloped countries. Hell, if we want to, give it away to them, if it will make you happy. That way, we get jobs in Canada, we develop new technologies, and Canada can then hurt the US by giving away the technology we develop, while using this same new technology to reduce our emissions. We get jobs, technology, and still get to feel philanthropic by giving this away to needy countries. Everyone wins.
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
The real reason is the Oil company's board of directors said no. Plus no money in it for "W" Cheney and their business buddies. That is the real reason.
The real reason is the Oil company's board of directors said no. Plus no money in it for "W" Cheney and their business buddies. That is the real reason.
Re: RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Sure, just like the war in Iraq was about oil, eh? Another left myth exposed as a falsehood. The real reason is there was and continues to be valid, independent research which indicates that Kyoto will have no affect on climate change. It will certainly have no affect on pollution, because climate change and pollution are two separate things, which the left continually ignores. One is separate from the other. Given that Canada contributes less than 2% of the worlds so-called green house gases,even if the country totally shut down, the effect would be negligible. It is a wealth transfer scheme, plain and simple. Part of the Liberal hidden agenda to being part of the New World Order.
no1important said:
Sure, just like the war in Iraq was about oil, eh? Another left myth exposed as a falsehood. The real reason is there was and continues to be valid, independent research which indicates that Kyoto will have no affect on climate change. It will certainly have no affect on pollution, because climate change and pollution are two separate things, which the left continually ignores. One is separate from the other. Given that Canada contributes less than 2% of the worlds so-called green house gases,even if the country totally shut down, the effect would be negligible. It is a wealth transfer scheme, plain and simple. Part of the Liberal hidden agenda to being part of the New World Order.
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
Pollution is what is accelerating climate change. With all the hot air in Alberta they should be using the Windmills China is using. You should go read the Kyoto board. Full of good information.
Pollution is what is accelerating climate change. With all the hot air in Alberta they should be using the Windmills China is using. You should go read the Kyoto board. Full of good information.
Scape said:
Yup, and these same experts were claiming global cooling and a new ice age just 20 years ago. Some consistency.
I guess you don't read other threads much blue go to the thread so its not about the oil .I posted documentation proving its all about the oil :evil: Bush and his gang are criminals pure and simple go read it
Mom, I may just do that. From your perspective, I guess that must make Martin and Bush, what........potential cell mates? If Iraq was about oil, Adscam is about money laundering, so they are soulmates. Ironic.
Hey Igot to agree with you there :lol: When Martin said he only had 20 million in contracts with the gov and it turned out to be 260 million I knew the writing was on the wall for this crook :wink:
mrmom2 said:
Stop the presses we agree!! Quick, check for bright stars in the Eastern Sky 8O :wink:
I really have a problem understanding how anyone could vote for the Liberals after what they have been proven to have done, not just this government, but all of them back to 1993. Hell, I don't care if you support the liberals and can't bring yourself to vote for them this time, but if they get elected again, we may as well just tell them they can do whatever they want, because no one will take them to task. People did it to Mulroney, now it is time to do it to Martin.
RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr
While you are checking out Mr. Mom's thread on Iraq being about oil check out the Kyoto thread, Blue. Read the links I put up. You will every single one of the falsehoods put forth by the anti-Kyoto lobby has been shown to be wrong by the scientific community, including that stupid little gem about the ice age that you tossed up. Real scientists look at global warming deniers the same way they look at creationists...and with good reason.
While you are checking out Mr. Mom's thread on Iraq being about oil check out the Kyoto thread, Blue. Read the links I put up. You will every single one of the falsehoods put forth by the anti-Kyoto lobby has been shown to be wrong by the scientific community, including that stupid little gem about the ice age that you tossed up. Real scientists look at global warming deniers the same way they look at creationists...and with good reason.
Funny thing about the Sponsorship Scandal...Chuck Guite testified today that the players were already in motion before the Liberals ever came to power...Mulroney's PCs started the scandal, and the Liberals began with the intention of cleaning up the mess...well one thing led to another and next thing you know they're all in bed together...so if what Chuck says is true, and really, he's got no reason to lie anymore, then the conservatives are as guilty as the Liberals, if not more so...
Maybe that's why the CRAP has distanced themselves from David Orchard...because David knows the truth about where they got the money to force their hostile take-over of the PCs...could be...
PS...CRAP=Conservative/Reform/Alliance Parties
Maybe that's why the CRAP has distanced themselves from David Orchard...because David knows the truth about where they got the money to force their hostile take-over of the PCs...could be...
PS...CRAP=Conservative/Reform/Alliance Parties
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