Right Wing Bigotry From Alberta

[mrmom2]

Thats a nice list you have compiled since you got here Crit .I've got some great responses too.Idon't think anybody here cares to much when you attack their political views.Just keep the personal attacks to a minimum and you will be fine.We need more like you with opposing views.Thats what makes it fun

 

[SirKevin]

Are a majority of Muslims terrorists, though? Why would we fingerprint everyone in a group that only has a very, very small minority of bad eggs? We shouldn't infringe on the privacy of the majority because of a minority.

We should be fingerprinting every person that enters this country that is not a citizen, no matter what their religion is.

No, we shouldn't be. That's what would happen in a paranoid police state.

More specifically, the United Church and most Anglican Churches -- both of those denominations are Christian.

Every religion splinters off into their own "versions" of said religion. I'm talking about the original religions, not the evolved ones where people pick and choose which parts of the religion they like and leave out the parts they don't.

Every religion evolves, dear. It's how we got women out of the kitchen and blacks out of slavery. Show me a [Christian] religion that didn't treat women and blacks as inferior people at one point in their history.

But on the context of this thread, you asked me which religions supported SSM and I named two. I'll name another one, also...the Community Church of Toronto.

No, I don't have anything to hide and yes I frankly would mind being part of some national database -- the idea is creepy.

What is creepy about putting your finger on a foil connected to a computer? It's not as if they use ink.

It's the thought that counts.

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Wrong. Choosing to own a gun is just that, a choice. Saying "If you want to buy a gun, you will need to register" is not comparable to "If you want to live in our country, you will have to register."

Wrong. Choosing to come to Canada is just that, a choice. If they have nothing to hide, they should have no problem getting fingerprinted. After all, they have to give references of all their previous activities, information about their entire lives including immediate family members. Disclose personal financial information etc. and you're worried about a 2 second fingerprinting. Pathetic.

This goes beyond literal finger printing. I doubt if Harper and friends have it their way it'll stop at fingerprinting. And, it's racism (what the Conservatives are proposing) -- I'll give you credit for being consistent in saying that everyone and not select racial minorities should be profiled, but you ain't gonna be elected Prime Minister anytime soon. As it stands, Harper is a racist. He wants to selectively target racial minorities as security threats; get over it.

A better question would be "How many people who have registered guns took times out of their busy schedules today to rob a bank?" I would guess the answer would be "a few."

Aren't you tired of being wrong. The gun registry has solved ZERO crimes. Criminals do NOT register their guns. Everyone knows this except Liberal supporters. Typical though.

Oh, for Christ's sake...

We can't count how many murders have been prevented, because those murders haven't happened. You cannot count something that never occured.

http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/media/reports/Commissioner-Report/HTML_files/sec03_e.html

See how many licenses were revoked? You can bet those were for a good reason, and that both you and I would be at a risk if even some of those licenses had been granted.

Then check the on-line access statistics. As you see, it is consistently consulted over a half a million times a year. Why do law enforcement officials keep consulring a registry that doesn't work?

So, if sex before marriage should be legal, why is one big marriage where everyone in the country is married to each other necessary for everyone to be able to screw everyone else?

Why leave out all the married people? I'm sure there are plenty of hot married people that would love to join in.

So adultery should be illegal?

 

[peapod]

oh sir kevin you really are a knight :wink:

 

[mrmom2]

You are the communist Crit you want the police control grid not me .You still don't get it I'm not a left winger

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr

I've split Crit's complaint into a separate thread so it can be addressed. Now quit the name-calling and get back on topic.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Guys like you want to live in a communist state. Why don't YOU move to Russia. You better hurry too because communist regimes have a habit of falling these days as people start to realize that it doesn't work.

You're right, commie-nism doesn't work because it's too corruptable, but capitalism doesn't seem to pan out either. It's demise is just slower. Russia I hate to say left the communistic ideal in 92, moving there won't help much. Both of the above mentioned 'isms would work if governments in charge weren't prone to being selfish or corruptable.

So because I want my government to be accountable and to be taxed less, it makes me a closet Nazi?

All govt's should be accountable, the Liberal/PC/NDP trackrecord isn't the best. It's like choosing the lesser of 3 evils, at least we don't have anything like the GOP :twisted:

I don't mind paying taxes, that money should be used properley to help and advance the Canadian society. However I must repeat my first paragraph to explain what's being done with my taxes

Nazi is a little extreme, but history seems to be ironically repeating itself. Let's not forget that Hitler was democratically elected too. To the south of us would appear that Fascism is being introduced in a modern way: The American Heritage Dictionary (Houghton Mifflin Company, 1983) as "*fas-cism* (fash'iz'em) n. A system of government that exercises a dictatorship of the extreme right, typically through the merging of state and business leadership, together with belligerent nationalism."

Mussolini, who helped create modern fascism, viewed liberal ideas as the enemy. "The Fascist conception of life," he wrote, "stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with the State. It is opposed to classical liberalism [which] denied the State in the name of the individual; Fascism reasserts the rights of the State as ex-
pressing the real essence of the individual."

 

[crit13]

I don't mind paying taxes, that money should be used properley to help and advance the Canadian society.

I don't mind paying my FAIR share of taxes either. But don't tell me that my services are being cut and that you need to raise taxes while at the same time BILLIONS are being wasted, spent and stolen.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr

Most of it is going to pay off the debt that Brian Mulroney incurred, Crit. When that's paid off you can worry about tax cuts.

Hey, maybe you can go see the corporations who got $4 billion in tax cuts in the budget and demand they give you a cut.

Corporations used to carry half the tax burden in this country, now they only carry a quarter of the tax burden.

 

[MMMike]

Corporations used to carry half the tax burden in this country, now they only carry a quarter of the tax burden.

I would suggest they should even carry less! A corporation is just a legal entity set up to make money for it's shareholders. Any profits paid to shareholders through dividend get taxed as income. You tax corporate income itself, it simply gets passed onto consumers.

 

[Twila]

RE: Right Wing Bigotry Fr

But don't tell me that my services are being cut and that you need to raise taxes while at the same time BILLIONS are being wasted, spent and stolen.

I remember when I learned how hospitals will burn the hydro/electricity to ensure that they use up their entire budget incase the next year is colder. This is just 1 area of wastefulness. I'd hate to find out what the monetary value is on all gov't funded institutions and such.

What a wasteful wasteful system!

 

[MMMike]

You're right, commie-nism doesn't work because it's too corruptable, but capitalism doesn't seem to pan out either. It's demise is just slower.

Yeah, that crazy capitalism idea is on it's last legs.... It hasn't worked out very well for the richest countries in the world, has it?

 

[Reverend Blair]

I would suggest they should even carry less! A corporation is just a legal entity set up to make money for it's shareholders. Any profits paid to shareholders through dividend get taxed as income. You tax corporate income itself, it simply gets passed onto consumers.

I would suggest that we shift the tax burden back so that Canadians get to keep the money they earn instead of allowing it to be sent to the US as corporate profits. We are back to being a branch plant economy with the lion's share of the money flowing into somebody else's economy and you are suggesting that we let them do it tax free.

 

[peapod]

uh huh..have you ever considered the rest of the countries on the planet mike? Do you really believe that only a handful of countries have the right to all the wealth on this planet...More important..just how long do think they can hang on to it. Reminds of scrooge when the ghost opens his robe...mankind should be our business not money...just ask jacob marley :wink:

 

[MMMike]

I would suggest that we shift the tax burden back so that Canadians get to keep the money they earn instead of allowing it to be sent to the US as corporate profits. We are back to being a branch plant economy with the lion's share of the money flowing into somebody else's economy and you are suggesting that we let them do it tax free.

We do that and we won't attract very much foreign investment will we? Evidence shows that low corporate taxes, and low trade barriers results in increase investment, higher growth rates and all the goodies that come with it: low unemployment, increased wages etc... A rising tide floats all boats.

 

[MMMike]

uh huh..have you ever considered the rest of the countries on the planet mike? Do you really believe that only a handful of countries have the right to all the wealth on this planet...More important..just how long do think they can hang on to it. Reminds of scrooge when the ghost opens his robe...mankind should be our business not money...just ask jacob marley :wink:

It's not a zero-sum game, peapod. We don't 'win' at someone elses expense. It is wealth creation, period.

 

[Reverend Blair]

We do that and we won't attract very much foreign investment will we? Evidence shows that low corporate taxes, and low trade barriers results in increase investment, higher growth rates and all the goodies that come with it: low unemployment, increased wages etc... A rising tide floats all boats.

The evidence shows that we have the highest rate of foreign ownership in the developed world. It also shows that trade agreements we have signed allow those corporations to control our government to an unprecedented extent.

Because of those things we have seen an erosion of real wages, attacks on environmental regulation, a growing gap between rich and poor, degradation of labour legislation, a disappearing middle class, and a loss of sovereignty.

A rising tide doesn't float those without boats, it drowns them. The corporatists started taking boats away two decades ago. Now they are running around stealing life jackets.

 

[peapod]

Only if your game is wealth mike :wink: But I like your posts your civil..and maybe I can convience you to read some dickens...nah probally not..how about hugging a tree

 

[MMMike]

uh huh..have you ever considered the rest of the countries on the planet mike? Do you really believe that only a handful of countries have the right to all the wealth on this planet...More important..just how long do think they can hang on to it. Reminds of scrooge when the ghost opens his robe...mankind should be our business not money...just ask jacob marley

The have-not countries in the world would be much better served with help to foster institutions of democracy, capitalism and free press than by protests against globalization.

 

[Reverend Blair]

The have-not countries in the world would be much better served with help to foster institutions of democracy, capitalism and free press than by protests against globalization

We've tried it your way for a quater of a century, MMMike. You've shown us nor results. It is time to try something else.

 

[MMMike]

Only if your game is wealth mike :wink: But I like your posts your civil..and maybe I can convience you to read some dickens...nah probally not..how about hugging a tree

I have to be civil or the wrath of the Rev will come down upon me. Besides, I don't think you are all godless Communists here! Who is this Dickens of which you speak??? :?