Rex Murphy: University bullies student who dares to play Peterson clip from The Agend

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I know you were not promoting the article, just pointing it out.

But it actually may be the stupidest thing I have read yet this year.......that wasn't written or posted by Mentalfloss. :)

It's HuPo. Rex was too good of a writer to be refereeing a radio call in show.
 

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Christie Blatchford: Thought police strike again as Wilfrid Laurier grad student is chastised for showing Jordan Peterson video





A Wilfrid Laurier University teaching assistant has been identified as “transphobic” and sanctioned for last week showing her class an excerpt of a video debate involving the controversial University of Toronto psychology professor Jordan Peterson.


In fact, her supervising professor, Nathan Rambukkana, told her that by showing the video to her “Canadian Communication in Context” class, “it basically was like … neutrally playing a speech by Hitler …”


Lindsay Shepherd, a 22-year-old graduate student at the school in Waterloo, Ont., was informed that merely by showing the clip, taken from a televised debate between Peterson and Nicholas Matte, a lecturer at the U of T’s Sexual Diversity Studies program, she was “legitimizing” Peterson’s views about genderless pronouns.


She has been told that she must now submit her lesson plans to her supervisor in advance, that he may sit in on her next few classes and she must “not show any more controversial videos of this kind.”
Jordan Peterson speaks to a group at the Carleton Place Arena on Thursday, June 15, 2017. Darren Brown / Ottawa Citizen/Ottawa Sun

The debate was originally aired last fall on the well-regarded TVO news show The Agenda, hosted by Steve Paikin, when Peterson’s

YouTube lectures about the dangers of the then-looming federal Bill C-16 first went viral.


It was in the context of this bill, which added “gender expression” and “gender identity” to both the federal human rights act and the Criminal Code, that Peterson first publicly criticized the use of gender-neutral pronouns such as “zie”, “zher” and “they” and found himself in a free speech battle.


The bill received royal assent in June and is now law.


Shepherd was this week hauled into a meeting with Rambukkana, program co-ordinator Herbert Pimlott and Adria Joel, acting manager of the “Gendered Violence Prevention and Support” program.


She was told that after she showed the five-minute video clip, “one student/many students” — the group refused to say how many students were unhappy because that information is deemed confidential — complained that she had created “a toxic climate.”
Jordan Peterson, Canadian clinical psychologist and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto, poses for a portrait at his home in Toronto, Ontario, May 31, 2017 Spunkily, she asked if she was supposed to shelter students from controversial ideas. “Am I supposed to comfort them?” she asked at one point, bewildered, and said it was antithetical to the spirit of a university.


Rambukkana then informed her that since Bill C-16 was passed, even making such “arguments run(s) counter” to the law.


In the 35-minute meeting, where she was outnumbered three to one, Shepherd vigorously defended herself, explaining she had been scrupulously even-handed and not taken a position herself or endorsed Peterson’s remarks before showing the video, and that her students seemed engaged by it, and had expressed a wide range of opinions.


But that was part of the problem, she was told — by presenting the matter neutrally, and not condemning Peterson’s views as “problematic” or worse, she was cultivating “a space where those opinions can be nurtured.”
Wilfrid Laurier university campus in downtown Brantford. RANDY RICHMOND / THE LONDON FREE PRESS / QMI AGENCY

The two professors seemed suspicious that perhaps Shepherd was a plant of Peterson’s, and were alert to any hint that she was a closet supporter of the dread “alt-right” movement they both mentioned.


Rambukkana asked her off the top if she wasn’t from the University of Toronto, and Shepherd said no.


In fact, she got her B.A. (Honours with Distinction) in Communication, with a minor in political science, from Simon Fraser University and is a native of Burnaby, B.C. She was accepted to Wilfrid Laurier on a $4,500 graduate scholarship, in addition to her TA funding package.


Ah, said Rambukkana, “so you’re not one of Jordan Peterson’s students.”


He then told her Peterson was “highly involved with the alt-right,” that he had bullied his own students and asked, “do you see why this is not something … that is up for debate?”


When Shepherd protested that it is very much up for debate, Rambukkana chastised her by saying the discussion creates an “unsafe learning environment.”


He then told her the university was being “blanketed” by white power posters, and asked if she would show a class a white supremacist in debate. Shepherd replied, “if that was the content of the week (the lesson), yeah, maybe.”


At one point, she was asked how she would feel, if she was a trans person, seeing a video of Peterson, and she said she didn’t know, but that she believed a university’s job was to make its students stronger.


“Is it your position these students are not strong?” one of the professors immediately demanded.


Pimlott seemed obsessed with scholarly qualifications — his own and Peterson’s alleged lack of same — and at one point expressed amusement at the way Peterson characterized the left as being in power in academia and “you’re going to be in prison” if you don’t use people’s preferred pronouns or profess loyalty to cultural Marxism.


Everyone is entitled to their opinions, Pimlott said, but the university has a “duty to make sure we’re not furthering … Jordan Peterson.”


They were oblivious to the fact that they themselves were proving him right by holding the 2017 equivalent of the “struggle sessions” so beloved in Mao’s China.


Shepherd is now sufficiently disillusioned, she told Postmedia Friday, that she is “about 70-per-cent sure I will be leaving Wilfrid Laurier after this semester is over.”


None of Rambukkana, Pimlott or Joel replied to emails from Postmedia.


Christie Blatchford: Thought police strike again as Wilfrid Laurier grad student is chastised for showing Jordan Peterson video | National Post
 

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The two professors seemed suspicious that perhaps Shepherd was a plant of Peterson’s, and were alert to any hint that she was a closet supporter of the dread “alt-right” movement they both mentioned.

Get a life.
 

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I'm wondering why there is nothing being done about the gender specificity of the autre official language.

IN French even the nouns have a specific gender. Yet nothing is said.
 

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I'm wondering why there is nothing being done about the gender specificity of the autre official language.

IN French even the nouns have a specific gender. Yet nothing is said.

Funny you mention that. I once offended a woman because i called a door a she. I told her in French la porte has a feminine pronoun and thats why I referenced it as she. :)

People who are looking to be offended will.
 

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These are dark days in Ontario.


A three-minute news clip from the Ontario government’s TV station prime time show The Agenda has roiled higher education in the province.


Not everyone is blessed to live in Ontario, so perhaps not all reading this know of that worthy program. The Agenda frequently takes the format of an hour-long panel discussion, and selects its panelists with a regard for the delicacies of balance and political correctness so refined as to qualify as a fetish. It is fervently progressive, its more diligent fans — and they are numerous — are equally so. The Agenda has the quiet earnestness and soothing quality only to be found elsewhere in those now dwindling classical music programs that rotate Liberstraum and The Blue Danube Waltz to soothe the twilight hours and forestall the torments of insomnia.


All of this is to say, by way of prelude, that The Agenda may be the last public affairs program in North America that is relentlessly civil, crushingly moderate in style and substance. It is calm. It is respectful. It is still. Yet three minutes of it has rocked the province. How so?


A graduate student, Lindsay Shepherd, at Wilfrid Laurier University, played a piddling three-minute clip in a class from an Agenda discussion on the hypnotically engaging subject of personal pronouns. As a consequence, she ended up on the sharp end of the “transphobic” stick, and had her teaching put under immediate supervision by the higher beadles of WLU.


Shepherd was summoned to the high office of the Adria Joel, acting manager of the “Gendered Violence Prevention and Support” program, in the company of program coordinator Herbert Pimlott, and her professor of communications, Nathan Rambukkana. They were perturbed.


It was the clip from The Agenda that did her in.


Shepherd’s class was Canadian Communication in Context. Is The Agenda Canadian Communication? Is the beaver on the Canadian nickel? So, she was on safe ground there. It wasn’t The Agenda per se that summoned the tigers from the high grass.


The difficulty seems to be that the clip from The Agenda was from a debate between University of Toronto psychology professor Jordan Peterson and Nicholas Matte, of U of T’s Sexual Diversities Studies program, formidable antagonists both. The topic (civilizations have tottered on matters less inflammatory): the personal pronouns.


Shepherd had shown the class a fragment of that debate. The crisis emerged from the consideration that the fragment chosen included both of the antagonists. If she had just shown the gentleman arguing for the inflation of pronoun usage, Matte, I hazard she would have been safe. Perhaps even up for a teaching award. Poor Shepherd’s flaw was that she showed a segment from the exchange, serenely moderated as always by Steve Paikin, which also featured the person who Matte was debating, the aforesaid Peterson.


Peterson on Pronouns is a crimson cape to a charging bull for the social justice warrior class. They view him as Atilla the Grammarian.


Peterson (who may someday own YouTube, such has been his explosive presence on that medium) has been challenging some of the regnant dogmas of the present day university, exercising an almost Socratic skepticism towards a whole basket of its most dearly loved and lavishly unquestioned progressive practices and preachments. He is living the role—as I wrote once earlier in the Post—of a real university professor. As such, he is denoted an academic pariah by those he discomforts.


Once news spread that The Agenda was playing a clip of Peterson in a Canadian university classroom devoted to Canadian communication, Shepherd’s supervising professor, Rambukkana, took feverish exception to the idea. How could he not? It’s a slippery slope. Let this slide and soon Peterson will be attacking the apostrophe, and smuggling copies of Fowler’s English Usage into “white privilege” seminars.

Was not The Agenda clip in question exposing fragile university students to 1½ minutes of Jordan Peterson’s rather considered thoughts on language and politics? It was, Rambukkana said, like showinga speech of Adolph Hitler neutrally! (My underline: it needs one.)


This is where, so to speak, I’d like to stop the tape.


However old you are, I’d like to ask this question: Have you ever, from the very day you were born, thought our sweet country would reach a point where playing a clip from Steve Paikin’s calm, serene, progressive The Agenda would have a professor at a serious university, seriously asserting, it was equivalent to blasting Adolph Hitler in full frothing rage at a Nuremberg rally—neutrally or otherwise? I’d add a slightly less incredible question. Is there not something “off” about a professor at one Ontario university denominating another tenured professor at the U of T as Hitler-like, or Hitler-toxic?


And I would end—though there is so much more to say on this—with a few other questions: Why do Departments such as Gendered Violence Prevention and Support, Equity Offices, and their multifarious ilk slip so often into patterns of inquisition and censorship, of ruthless thought and speech control?


Why do they seek to bully the few students who have the wisdom and bravery to occasionally test questions of moment, rather than slumbering on the bed of dogma and pretentious pseudo-scholarship as so many “studies” programs are?


Finally, how long are the humanities programs of so many universities going to oblige the anti-intellectualism, heresy hunting, and ridiculous hyper-reactions of immature and overzealous students and their allies in faculty positions?

Rex Murphy: University bullies student who dares to play Peterson clip from The Agenda | National Post

While you are at it, check this out.

https://globalnews.ca/video/3867811...d-laurier-university-grad-student-and-faculty

Personally, for the first time, I understand the "progressive" tendency to be unable to resist punching a phucking Nazi.

The unfortunate student cried.

My reaction would have been somewhat more intense, and the two Nazis in the room would have been well advised to retreat to their "safe space".

How unfortunate that you have not more carefully NAMED which side of the argument you consider to be Nazis! LIE-berals consider Jordan Peterson and his ilk top be Nazis!

And Toronto area schools of journalism happily take grant money from Toronto Sun to give as awards to outstanding aspiring student journalists- but any student who uses Toronto Sun as a reference for anything is looking at serious issues in the classroom and its been that way for 30 years!

Here is an old post that illustrates how long and how hard LIE-berals have been working to twist things their way- at any price:


Some Lie-beral doofus has suggested that Harper and Conservatives are a danger to democracy.

The dork whined: “The Conservatives are changing the rules to favour themselves. If they could, they would eliminate elections altogether. The economy is in the toilet despite the phony propaganda. There is more to Canada than oil in Alberta”.

I say: That’s a funny post about Harper and democracy-so typical of wildly twisted-typical Lie-beral whining! And more silly yet-it was during the Chretien era (when Lie-beral decided they were the “natural” governing party and that the public would ALWAYS buy their bullshit) that Lie-berals made noises about not needing `expensive` elections simply to `confirm` their position! But that was then and this is now it's much less fun for third place Lie-berals in this political climate of bankruptcy still trying to sell their VERY STALE bullshit!

Harper has made small changes to the rules for political spending so that American `super pac`-US style political activists (funded by those Yankee Wall Street 1% hogs) will have a bit harder time feeding Canadian special interest groups with advertising money so they can mold Canada into a form that satisfies the personal desires of American millionaires and a few Canadian political activists without regard for what the rest of us want.

Harper has also changed the rules so it’s a little bit harder for election officials-all of whom happen to be civil servants and generally more friendly with the free spending Lie-berals than they are with those `freeze their wages` Conservatives- to look the other way while groups such as the Working Families Coalition` practice their political double dealing. The Working Family Coalition (WFC) is nothing more than a very thinly disguised lobby group of civil service unions engaged in what must be referred to as a gross conflict of interest. The WFC conflict of interest involves major campaigns designed to elect specific politicians (Lie-berals ALL) who are most likely to give in to any union demand and they are prepared to trample the rights of other Canadians while WFC members of Elections Canada deliberately ignore the blatant bias, the gross conflict of interest and the violation of election spending rules!

It’s bad that BIASED election officials see WFC as an `independent third party` on the political stage in spite of WFC acting in concert with Lie-beral party officials and acting as a well financed arm (completely unregulated) of the Lie-beral party and with the Lie-berals therefore getting the benefit of partisan election spending well beyond the current legal election limit thanks to WFC rule breaking. And it’s worse that election officials (who will benefit from wage increases if Lie-berals are elected instead of Conservatives) see no wrong doing in their failure to act on Conservative complaints regarding WFC so Harper has tightened the rules slightly in that direction as well. Yet the Lie-berals and their civil service allies scream with outrage at every effort to level the playing field.

The Lie-beral/Working Family Coalition is composed of a loathsome pack of two faced crybabies……whining because they have been beaten at THEIR game! Lost in their greed they are like a 3 year old who doesn't realize the party is over (and the country is BROKE) and keeps screaming for more cake and ice cream....BOOOHOOOO!!!

And how sad that LIE-berals have worked so very hard to reverse the Harper changes to our election laws! And how disgusting that LIE-berals should play holier than thou while pushing their BLATANT vote rigging electoral reform on us!

But there it is- LIE-berals have no shame where their hunt for gravy is concerned!