Restoring Canada Starts With Reinstating the Long-Form Census
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No they don't. Your driver's license is issued by the province, the census is done by the feds, and privacy laws prevent the provincial government from giving your personal information to the federal government.
Well I have never given census, just don't have the time.. either I'm on the road, or vacationing.
I have a friend who used to work for Stats Canada and was totally taken aback when Hatper took away the long form census. It is useful. Advice from statisians,economists,business people,anti-poverty groups, advocates for linguistic minorities.The data collected in the short form census only, is virtually useless.
Yes, the long form census is crucial to all sorts of issues. The short form is mostly just a head count, but it's far from useless, it's essential for things that are based on population, like electoral boundaries, transfer payments, the distribution of educational funds, and many other things. But if you need to know things like how well recent immigrants are doing, where there are pockets of disadvantage, where there are people at risk, what the income disparities are, what the level of home ownership is, what the quality of housing is--and we do need to know such things to create social and economic policy intelligently--we have to have the long form. The long form had about a 98% response rate and provided a consistent high quality historical record of what's been happening in this country. The voluntary household survey that replaced it has about a 65% response rate, costs more to administer, provides poorer quality data, and breaks the continuity, it can't be used longtitudinally as part of the long form's historical record. Doing away with the long form was just another of Harper's ideologically driven evidence-free decisions whose real purpose was to hamstring social science research. I'm glad he's out, I think he was the most dangerous and ignorant person in the country.
Walter will probably give me another red one for that and say nothing, he'll just register his disapproval. Try to imagine how much I don't care.
Walter will probably give me another red one for that and say nothing, he'll just register his disapproval. Try to imagine how much I don't care.
I'm still not going to fill one out. Govt has plenty of info on me already. They know where I live because they send me mail. They know what I make and who I'm married too and how many kids I have from my tax return. They have my health records and employment history and much more info than I am comfortable with.
Last census I had about 5 different people knock my door trying to get me to do it. One even said they would return with the police and have me jailed if I didn't at which time I reminded him he was trespassing and I was within my rights to physucally remove him from my property. Never heard anything after that.
It's not really the info on you personally that government's interested in, except for the agencies that deal with your personal taxes and benefits and licences and permits. It wants to know things about your marital status and family size and income level and so on so it can produce aggregate statistics about the population you're part of in the area where you live. That kind of information is essential to policy and program development, and if everybody took your line, government would have no idea about things like the unemployment rate, poverty levels, housing quality, and a thousand other things, and could generate no evidence-based response to them.
I'm thinking of one of those town hall meetings in middle America with everyone biotching and moaning over some issue or another. This thread conjured that image in my mind. Someone please pound that gavel.
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Bullsh*t! The census is every 5 years or something but they update the unemployment rate monthly. They know or at least have a good idea. It is a waste of time and money. My kid could write software to compile all the data they get in the census from your tax returns each year. They don't need to know how many speak hindi or spanish or norwegian or where more people have dogs than cats. That info just gives them a reason to create useless inefficient and wasteful programs that squander our tax dollars. As far as I'm concerned once they get past essential services and infrastructure they have overstepped their constitutional mandate and can f*ck off!
Funny I can't recall you ever schooling anyone in anything. I do recall you getting your azz handed by numerous people to you pretty well every time you post something though.
And they need to know how many bathrooms are in my house why?
I have a friend, a black disabled first nations lesbian tranny, who used to work for Stats Canada and was totally happy when Harper took away the long form census. It is useless crap from statisians,economists,business people,anti-poverty groups, advocates for linguistic minorities.The data collected in the short form census only is all that is needed by the gubmint..
This is a complete lie.
Waltard having a friend. Yeah.
Anyhow, I don't see any socio-economic-whatever question that can't be answered with the short-form census:
1. What's your name?
2. What's your quest?
3. What's the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
I have never seen you school anyone on any subject let alone politics .
Just saying .
Yup we need a long form census to tell us that the Vancouver downtown eastside is a pocket of disadvantage .
I hadn't read this before I posted , to funny .