respect elders or not?

[talloola]

That's how it should be. I'm referring to men (as that's the only place I seen this trend) who are single (no woman was ever quite good enough) and just a little past the age of 50. They're set financially, and either don't work because they are no longer employable, or have no interest. They seem to become raging hypochondriacs (it's all about them). The stories they tell about doctors that won't treat their imaginary ailments (from colon cancer to neuropathic pain to anything that requires ativan or other addictive pharmaceuticals), or hypersensitivity to everything from paper used in magazines to the air we breath, are straight out of a comedy (although for them it's dreadfully serious). No conversation with these people, no matter how short, is complete without a long diatribe about their ailments, personal pharmacy, and incompetent doctors. This isn't a phase, this is something that seems to start in the late 40s, and, as years go by, it's their only point of focus ... an obsession that is entirely inwardly focused, off-balanced, and not normal. These are bright educated men who, throughout their lives, were not responsible for anyone but themselves, and, as they age, they are not interested or concerned about anyone but themselves. They are worthy of respect except for the fact that their only interest is in themselves ... which makes them less worthy of respect. They don't respect anyone and perceive almost everyone as beneath them. They're the creeps that nearly run people over in crosswalks, who flash the finger at someone that merges into their traffic lane, who push and shove to get what they want to the exclusion and detriment of all others.

So, you are saying they are 'type A' successful white males on the outside, and scared little children
on the inside.

Lots of the people 30-45 weren't necessarily referring to your age group though (not sure which comments exactly drew your frustration). I know I referred to a generation gap in understanding, not physical or mental ability, and when I discussed physical frailty, it was as a secondary factor. Most people in their 70's I know go like gangbusters still. My paternal grandmother is one exception, as since her surgery last year, after a life time of smoking and drinking in great excess, she's really not doing well. But that's a factor of lifestyle moreso than age. My grandparents on my maternal side though, also in their 70's, when they show up grandpa drags me out for a walk so grandma can clean my house in peace (she's a wee bit OCD). LOL.

just a general statement karrie, nothing personal or significant. It seems to be a normal attitude
by the younger set that people my age are not quite as 'quick', or 'alert', or 'informed', and are
on the down side of life, which excludes them from the mainstream that are in all the commercials,
are talked about as the 'movers' and 'shakers' so to speak.
'Healthy' people in their 60's and 70's, and many in their 80s, are the ones with all of the experience,
wiseness, (at least they should be by then) lol, and have stepped back from the frenzie and speed of
life, slowed down, see the flowers, notice the smaller more important things that make this world a
better place to live, and should be 'more' respected for that, instead of
seen as the age where life is on the way out, poor them, a sad time of life.

 

[gerryh]

first i am a guy second i already said more than once... i used more than 4-5 people.
i can go on and continue talking about it. Not to metion the people i work at were very nice and came up to me and intrdouce themselfs? when have people ever done that in other jobs i had? never...

I had enouggh respect when i was in a movie theather i work for i went to the other location and explain to them that i did work at one of them. teh guy told me "thank you" that movie theather is now gone. But i go out of my way to give people a heads up young or old.

we'll add comprehension problems to your list of "disabilities". JLM was referring to someone else in that post. Not you.

 

[JLM]

we'll add comprehension problems to your list of "disabilities". JLM was referring to someone else in that post. Not you.

Nope, haven't had time to get to him yet, but I will if he ain't sensible. :lol::lol::lol:

 

[lone wolf]

Good Lard some folks are so bitter in here. There just isn't enough respect to make them happy....

 

[gerryh]

Nope, haven't had time to get to him yet, but I will if he ain't sensible. :lol::lol::lol:

Have at er.....I've promised someone that I will back off.

and yes, that is a leash you see hanging off my neck...... and every once in a while a sexy lil cutie yanks on it..... and that cutie aint my wife...lol

 

[Bcool]

first i am a guy second i already said more than once... i used more than 4-5 people.
i can go on and continue talking about it. Not to metion the people i work at were very nice and came up to me and intrdouce themselfs? when have people ever done that in other jobs i had? never...

I had enouggh respect when i was in a movie theather i work for i went to the other location and explain to them that i did work at one of them. teh guy told me "thank you" that movie theather is now gone. But i go out of my way to give people a heads up young or old.

I hope you will ignore the rude, unkind, insulting comments made to you and about you.

Made by those who are clueless about the difficulties so many people have to overcome to do some of the things they take for granted.

There are many here and amongst the guests viewing this thread who respect what you are saying.

Some of those guests would post too if they could except they're too scared that they'll be bullied too. :-(

Bullies

never get respect. You know that, huh?

Respectfully :smile:

 

[Ariadne]

Ummmmm- perhaps everyone except aging men. :lol::lol::lol::lol:

If I hadn't had such a fabulous (take that as sarcasm) day, I would have something to say ... but I don't. I give the benefit of the doubt to most. The latest error in my ways was to give the benefit of the doubt to a passive aggressive female ... I'm pretty slow at seeing the negative side of people. I finally figured out why a newbie at work is soooooooo nice one minute, and so rude the next - she's passive aggressive, and she wants my job. Today she told me that my job was to tweak ... gotta love that. I'm the tweaker. I can't do anything, so I take things that other people do, and tweak a little here, a little there, and then ... tweak some more.

So, I'm agreeing with you ... personality quirks have no gender bias.

So, you are saying they are 'type A' successful white males on the outside, and scared little children
on the inside.

That's how it looks ...

 

[gerryh]

I hope you will ignore the rude, unkind, insulting comments made to you and about you.

Made by those who are clueless about the difficulties so many people have to overcome to do some of the things they take for granted.

There are many here and amongst the guests viewing this thread who respect what you are saying.

Some of those guests would post too if they could except they're too scared that they'll be bullied too. :-(

Bullies

never get respect. You know that, huh?

Respectfully :smile:

This is the last time I will be posting in this thread AND the last time I will be referencing this little sh*t.

I was asked to back off and I will, but this is part of my reply to that request.

"when it is used as an excuse for a behaviour?

I always told my boys and their teachers. ADD/ADHD maybe a reason for a behaviour, but it is never an excuse for a behaviour."

This little asshat is using his "disability" as an excuse for his behaviour. We are supposed to give him a pass because of it. I will NOT do that. If he wants to play with the big boys, then he learns to do it properly or take his lumps for when he doesn't. Take responsibility for his words and actions, not give excuses.

 

[Cannuck]

Generally speaking, the over 55 crowd does not deserve respect (as a group). They artificially inflated their standard of living by borrowing more and more and sticking their kids with the bills. Their selfishness was unparalleled. They are, statistically speaking, the best off segment of society yet we continually hear how hard done by they are.

That said, as individuals, respect is something you earn and age doesn't equate with wisdom or any other trait. I know many seniors that I respect however, age has nothing to do with my reasons for the respect.