Republican in hot water over belief in AGW

coldstream

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It's actually pretty unprecedented that a Republican jumps on board the AGW train.

With this kind of move, you will see the skeptic position become more and more marginalized.

Too bad, so sad.

If you're lucky, he might be pro life. lol


Mormonism is notoriously sketchy on abortion, unlike ALL orthodox Christian denominations. I just can't find anything substantial in Romney at all. Like his business career, its all based on opportunism and predation.
 

mentalfloss

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Mormonism is notoriously sketchy on abortion, unlike ALL orthodox Christian denominations. I just can't find anything substantial in Romney at all. Like his business career, its all based on opportunism and predation.

Yea, that sounds pretty much like a republican.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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''What a broken record.''

The repeat threads on this forum that deal with AGW and the other anti-Obama hate threads are an even bigger broken record.

Well I agree regarding the two you mention, but the Christianity bashing is a definite contender in the broken record category.
 

gopher

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Well I agree regarding the two you mention, but the Christianity bashing is a definite contender in the broken record category.

For every Christianity bashing thread we've had, there have been a dozen Islamophobic threads.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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For every Christianity bashing thread we've had, there have been a dozen Islamophobic threads.

Really? Could you define your interpretation of Islamophobia? Is that to include news items involving extremist Islam or just people who attack Islam for the heck of it?

Links?
 

gopher

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''I think your being kind of disingenuous here Gopher, but that's okay. I'll leave it at that.''

You've been in this forum for 5 years - it is just impossible for anyone to have missed all the Islamophobic threads we've had here.
 

Tonington

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Looks like it's Gingrich's turn to do some splainin' to the party of the science illiterate:

Gingrich and cap-and-trade: a flip-flop?

Nancy Pelosi Newt Gingrich Agree on Climate Change - YouTube

“I’ve said publicly, sitting on the couch with Nancy Pelosi is the dumbest single thing I’ve done in the last few years. But if you notice, I’ve never favored cap and trade, and in fact, I actively testified against it. I was at the U.S. House Energy and Commerce Committee the same day Al Gore was there to testify for it, I testified against it and through American Solutions we fought it in the Senate and played a major role in defeating it.”

— Former House speaker Newt Gingrich, Dec. 3, 2011
“I think if you have mandatory carbon caps combined with a trading system, much like we did with sulfur, and if you have a tax-incentive program for investing in the solutions, that there’s a package there that’s very, very good. And frankly, it’s something I would strongly support.”
— Gingrich, Interview on PBS’s “Frontline,” Feb. 15, 2007

Every politician makes mistakes, although few are willing to admit it. Gingrich’s ad with Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on climate change is certainly amusing in retrospect.

But what of the Republican presidential candidate’s claim that “I’ve never favored cap and trade”? Rival campaigns immediately pounced, sending around quotes from a PBS interview in which Gingrich appeared to say the opposite, suggesting support for a limit on greenhouse emissions. The conventional wisdom holds that former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney has a flip-flop problem, but does Gingrich?
 

ironsides

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Newt is a lizard. Always was, and will sell us out to the highest bidder. Romney on the other hand is pretty much unknown to most of the U.S., he claims the Mass. health plan was not totally of his choosing. He vetoed parts of it, but his veto's were over ridden. As for being a Mormon, so what, a person can believe in what ever religion they want or not, whatever they want. The great Catholic conversion when Kennedy became President just never materialized.

As to who should run for the Republican party, any one including Mother Theresa would offend some of you.
 

damngrumpy

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America is a country drowning in debt, people are going to bed hungry without
work. There are thousands losing their homes. The civil order of the country
continues to decline, because to save tax dollars they didn't do the upkeep on
infrastructure. The list goes on as to the serious problems confronting them.
what are the issues facing the people? Is the world more than six thousand years
old? Can a Mormon win the election for President? They confront each other over
affairs that happened years ago. We have people who believe the Muppet's are a
Liberal conspiracy to brainwash their children or teletubbies might be gay.
Now its Global Warming. The politicians don't discuss the issue of whether they
can or cannot do anything about it and if they can, what can they do. No instead
they talk about whether someone flip flopped, or they now believe the cause is worth
looking at. It would seem to me if someone looked at the evidence and decided it
should be reviewed, we could look upon the person as someone who is willing to
listen. Not when it comes to Republicans these days. No the world is six thousand
years old according to some, the GW issue is cast in stone and anyone who says
different is not a good American.
No wonder these people are in trouble, they are arguing about whether or not there
should be life jackets on a sinking ship instead of whether or not there are enough
life jackets on a sinking ship. When does sanity enter the picture or does it? The
world is laughing at these people, both at what they say and sometimes what they
actually believe. Actually if it wasn't so sad it would be the best circus in town.
 

ironsides

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Looks like he is aware though, which is a step in the right direction.

Romney makes new shift in global warming position
 
 
The former Massachusetts governor had been one of the few Republican presidential candidates to embrace the scientific consensus that human activity contributes to climate change. But in a speech in Pittsburgh on Thursday, he sounded like more of a skeptic.
"My view is that we don’t know what’s causing climate change on this planet," Romney said in the speech, a clip of which was posted by the liberal blog Think Progress. "And the idea of spending trillions and trillions of dollars to try to reduce CO2 emissions is not the right course for us."
Romney gave a different answer in June, when he was asked whether humans contribute to climate change.
"I don’t speak for the scientific community, of course," Romney said at a town-hall meeting in New Hampshire. "But I believe the world’s getting warmer. I can’t prove that, but I believe based on what I read that the world is getting warmer. And number two, I believe that humans contribute to that."

http://www.boston.com/Boston/politicalintelligence/2011/10/romney-makes-new-shift-global-warming-position/aBMsQrPwV3bxnFZHLRNPwO/index.html
 

Tonington

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Michelle Bachmann should love this, as should Ron Paul. They've both always been off in Kookville.
 

DaSleeper

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Can anyone explain why In Between Man and Alleywayz are the same guiy, but his quotes show under his old nick?

Maybe the name wasn't changed everywhere in the admin panel???

Edit: Oops I just noticed that this is an old thread resurected and that all the quotes are old and the name change is recent......
 
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#juan

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God! I didn't think there was anyone left who didn't think that man-made global warming was a real threat.
 

petros

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God! I didn't think there was anyone left who didn't think that man-made global warming was a real threat.
Wait until this summer when the la Nina driven drought hits the CDN Prairies and it gets smokin' hot. All will blame global warming even though it has happened before.



This wouldn't have happened if they paid carbon taxes.
 

#juan

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Wait until this summer when the la Nina driven drought hits the CDN Prairies and it gets smokin' hot. All will blame global warming even though it has happened before.



This wouldn't have happened if they paid carbon taxes.
Are you forcasting a drought on the Canadian provinces for next Summer? There is a difference between climate and weather.
It could snow all through next Summer but the overwhelming trend is that the world is warming.