Religious Brain Scrubbing of Children

darkbeaver

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There's this strange thing about Jews. They do stand up for each other much more than any other peoples. and at the same time they are quite ready to sacrifice their own people... Quite a paradox...
Many jews live in fear of the zionist machine and they have for a long time. Someday they will free themselves of that curse.
 

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There's this strange thing about Jews. They do stand up for each other much more than any other peoples. and at the same time they are quite ready to sacrifice their own people... Quite a paradox...
Sort of like Pearl Harbor and 911 for Americans. Neither of the greater populations has caught on it would seem.
 

scratch

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That's because neither care about their everyday working people. Expendable.
 

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That's because neither care about their everyday working people. Expendable.

Scratch, you made the most truthful and the most depressing point. Depressing if you are down there, that is. The elite knows not the racial and religious differences. These are for the workers, for the sheeple to occupy their time with :-(
 

Mulk

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Talloola...
20 million Russians died in the war against my people that Hitler had started. These were not the less fortunate, these were the youngest, the healthiest, the most intelligent men of that generation. 80 per cent of those who came back from the war alive, were psychologically and physically crippled. the next generations were born from those broken people.
3 million Cambodians were killed during the rule of Pol Pot.
8 hundred thousand people were killed in Ruanda as recently as 14 years ago.
Over 140 thousand people died in Hiroshima.
These are the examples that first come to my mind, without any thorough research. Are you trying to say that the deaths of six thousand Jews was a greater tragedy?

It was 6 million Jews and those other tragedies should not be forgotten, Nor the Turkish Genocide of Armenians as well as the many other examples one could dig up. Let them all be taught, examined and learned from. If we can't learn from our mistakes will they not be repeated?
 

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Even if we don't learn from them....they will be repeated over and over. It's what we are or have come to be.
 

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It was 6 million Jews and those other tragedies should not be forgotten, Nor the Turkish Genocide of Armenians as well as the many other examples one could dig up. Let them all be taught, examined and learned from. If we can't learn from our mistakes will they not be repeated?

Mulk, you got it! You've just got my point! Why center on just one kind of genocide? Why mourn the tragedy of just one people? Why ignore the others?

Unfortunately, this kind of mistake IS going to be repeated, time and time again... :-(
 

darkbeaver

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It is estimated that five million or more have died in the Congo in the last ten years and nothing do we hear from the capitalist pigs but the empty hollow promises of aid when it's them doing the killing while they rape and pillage the land.
 

talloola

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Talloola...
20 million Russians died in the war against my people that Hitler had started. These were not the less fortunate, these were the youngest, the healthiest, the most intelligent men of that generation. 80 per cent of those who came back from the war alive, were psychologically and physically crippled. the next generations were born from those broken people.
3 million Cambodians were killed during the rule of Pol Pot.
8 hundred thousand people were killed in Ruanda as recently as 14 years ago.
Over 140 thousand people died in Hiroshima.
These are the examples that first come to my mind, without any thorough research. Are you trying to say that the deaths of six thousand Jews was a greater tragedy?

The subject was the holocaust, want to talk about the others, start another thread.
Of course there are many others.
 

darkbeaver

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The subject was the holocaust, want to talk about the others, start another thread.
Of course there are many others.

The subject was intoctrination the article dealt with Holocaust intoctrination through public school. Why not eh, the corporations teach in the same manner. I guess children are just a resource afterall. A market of incubators for ideologys.
 

Mulk

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Mulk, you got it! You've just got my point! Why center on just one kind of genocide? Why mourn the tragedy of just one people? Why ignore the others?

Unfortunately, this kind of mistake IS going to be repeated, time and time again... :-(

I don't think we should ignore the others. I think we should bring them all into the light, discuss the reasons they happened and what we can do to prevent them. Holocaust education in the UK is just the START.
 

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It is estimated that five million or more have died in the Congo in the last ten years and nothing do we hear from the capitalist pigs but the empty hollow promises of aid when it's them doing the killing while they rape and pillage the land.

Diamonds and oil i suspect are the reasons we don't hear anything.
 

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This thread is a perfect example of why the Holocaust needs to be taught differently. It's because no one questions what the Russians did to deserve their dead or why the Cmabodians or Congolese should be blamed for the millions of dead they suffered. Only the Jews get the honour of being blamed for their own genocide.

I'm out of this one.
 

darkbeaver

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This thread is a perfect example of why the Holocaust needs to be taught differently. It's because no one questions what the Russians did to deserve their dead or why the Cmabodians or Congolese should be blamed for the millions of dead they suffered. Only the Jews get the honour of being blamed for their own genocide.

I'm out of this one.

The difference is what? We hear Iraqis and Afghans and Palestianians being blamed for their genocidal destruction at the hands of fascist monsters every day but their present misery is relegated to insignifigance beneath the shadow of the Holocaust. The dead have been allowed precidence over the living. That is an abomination. Todays living are vastly more important than yesterdays dead, it is a measure of the rot that this is turned inside out and those dead are allowed to exact their revenge today.
 

talloola

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The difference is what? We hear Iraqis

I agree with that statement, the iraqis were falsley invaded, should have been done
with the underground inside of iraq, just to do away with Sadam Hussein, and spare
the people and their country.

and Afghans
The taliban, not the afghan people, they are suffering under the taliban, as well as
suffering in the middle of the war against the taliban.

and Palestianians
Israel is given about 95% of the blame in that situation, and the arabs sit back and don't
lift a finger to aid their own people (palestinian arabs), and rather enjoy the world condemning israel for the treatment of the palestinians, as they don't give a rat's buttock
about them.

The dead have been allowed precidence over the living.
It's too bad the dead can't come back and argue with you, a person who has had the pleasure
of living his life, and still is.
Gathering up the jews in train loads, like cattle, then tricking them into death buildings, is
above and beyond most treatments that have gone on past wars, and that is NOT playing
light of anyone elses death, believe me, that was so bazzar that it does become number
one in people's minds, and I can understand why.

That is an abomination. Todays living are vastly more important than yesterdays dead,
Yesterdays dead teach us how to conduct our present day lives, or should.

it is a measure of the rot that this is turned inside out and those dead are allowed to exact their revenge today.
That is a dastardly statement, they were innocent people, not cowardly leaders, or Sadam
Hussein, or Hitler or Bush, but innocent people just like ourselves.
 

darkbeaver

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There is nothing in the murder conducted by the SS that was novel not the methods of death nor the transport nor the depravation or the humiliation every piece of it was as old and tried as mankind itself. The innocence of the dead is not in question it is the importance of the living suffering victims of todays genocide that demand our attention and not those of seventy years ago who we can do nothing for today. Their hard lesson is wasted. I think they would agree with me that saving todays victims while it can be done must be done.All the victims of injustice would know directly the brotherhood of suffering.
 

talloola

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There is nothing in the murder conducted by the SS that was novel not the methods of death nor the transport nor the depravation or the humiliation every piece of it was as old and tried as mankind itself. The innocence of the dead is not in question it is the importance of the living suffering victims of todays genocide that demand our attention and not those of seventy years ago who we can do nothing for today. Their hard lesson is wasted. I think they would agree with me that saving todays victims while it can be done must be done.All the victims of injustice would know directly the brotherhood of suffering.

Yes, that is very true, I agree.