RCMP attempt damage control in wake of B.C. video
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Nope. They are there to enforce policies and that is it. They don't have to protect you and won't unless you file a complaint.
In practice you are probably right, In theory I think they are morally required to protect you. :lol:
No requirment whatsoever without being ordered by a higher up and conveyed through dispatch.
Read this JLM: Cops refused to help, assault victim says
Read this JLM: Cops refused to help, assault victim says
Police blowoff upsets bike theft victim
Last Updated: Thursday, September 17, 2009 | 8:22 PM CT
CBC News
A Regina teenager who tried to alert police to a theft in progress is upset that the culprits who stole his bicycle got away while the officers advised the boy to phone the police station.
The theft took place a week ago, on Matthew Doleman's 13th birthday.
The youngster had spent the summer working odd jobs to save enough money for his bike.
"It was just the bike they got and then they took off down the street," Doleman told CBC News on Thursday. "I decided to borrow my friend's bike to ride and see if I could find them."
Within a few minutes, Doleman said, he spotted his stolen bike and the rider about a block away. He also happened to see a Regina police cruiser.
"Then I seen these two police officers and I pulled them over and I told them what happened," Doleman said. "I told them I needed their help because my bike has just been stolen."
Doleman said the reaction was not what he expected.
"They were like, 'Oh. Just go call the police. They'll help you and they'll take a statement,'" he recalled.
Parents not impressed
With that, the bike thieves got away and Doleman walked home to tell his parents what happened.
Shelly Hanson, Matthew's mother, noted that the officers did not say they were on another, higher-priority, assignment. She wonders what youngsters should do when they need police assistance.
"Are they allowed to go up to them and say, 'This is going on, Can you help me?'" Hanson told CBC News. "Or are they going to be told: 'No go home?'"
A spokeswoman for the Regina Police Service refused to answer questions about the incident involving Doleman.
Police actions defended
Elizabeth Popowich nevertheless defended police officers in general, saying they must assess situations on a case-by-case basis.
"Including what sort of condition the victim may be in. Whether the event has just occurred and whether or not the officer is off to something more urgent," Popowich told CBC News.
Doleman said he would still try to talk to police if a similar situation arose again. But he said he would not have high expectations of the officers.
"Maybe they'll do something about it, maybe they won't," he said.
Hanson said she thought about making a formal complaint about what happened, but decided not to.
"I was gonna go in and talk to them and say. 'This isn't right,' but then I thought: Well, I've talked to quite a few people, my neighbours and stuff, and they say, 'What good will it do?'"
Read more: CBC News - Saskatchewan - Police blowoff upsets bike theft victim
Last Updated: Thursday, September 17, 2009 | 8:22 PM CT
CBC News
A Regina teenager who tried to alert police to a theft in progress is upset that the culprits who stole his bicycle got away while the officers advised the boy to phone the police station.
The theft took place a week ago, on Matthew Doleman's 13th birthday.
The youngster had spent the summer working odd jobs to save enough money for his bike.
'I told them I needed their help because my bike has just been stolen.'—Theft victim Matthew Doleman, 13
It was taken while Doleman and some friends were playing in a park. He says they saw the thieves take off with his bike."It was just the bike they got and then they took off down the street," Doleman told CBC News on Thursday. "I decided to borrow my friend's bike to ride and see if I could find them."
Within a few minutes, Doleman said, he spotted his stolen bike and the rider about a block away. He also happened to see a Regina police cruiser.
"Then I seen these two police officers and I pulled them over and I told them what happened," Doleman said. "I told them I needed their help because my bike has just been stolen."
Doleman said the reaction was not what he expected.
"They were like, 'Oh. Just go call the police. They'll help you and they'll take a statement,'" he recalled.
Parents not impressed
With that, the bike thieves got away and Doleman walked home to tell his parents what happened.
Shelly Hanson, Matthew's mother, noted that the officers did not say they were on another, higher-priority, assignment. She wonders what youngsters should do when they need police assistance.
"Are they allowed to go up to them and say, 'This is going on, Can you help me?'" Hanson told CBC News. "Or are they going to be told: 'No go home?'"
A spokeswoman for the Regina Police Service refused to answer questions about the incident involving Doleman.
Police actions defended
Elizabeth Popowich nevertheless defended police officers in general, saying they must assess situations on a case-by-case basis.
"Including what sort of condition the victim may be in. Whether the event has just occurred and whether or not the officer is off to something more urgent," Popowich told CBC News.
Doleman said he would still try to talk to police if a similar situation arose again. But he said he would not have high expectations of the officers.
"Maybe they'll do something about it, maybe they won't," he said.
Hanson said she thought about making a formal complaint about what happened, but decided not to.
"I was gonna go in and talk to them and say. 'This isn't right,' but then I thought: Well, I've talked to quite a few people, my neighbours and stuff, and they say, 'What good will it do?'"
Read more: CBC News - Saskatchewan - Police blowoff upsets bike theft victim
The case in Montreal certainly doesn't surprise me. It's high time their doughnut quota was cut back by 25%. I don't think they are all bad Petros- maybe the best solution is to fire the worst 10% and then the next worse 10% will smarten up quick like. I've just lived in this town a short time so can't say what they are like here but in the last place I lived there were two or three hot dogs. Any idea what their starting salary is these days? (Maybe I don't want to know) :lol:
Oh, I was under the impression they earned a bit more. Is there a "doughnut clause" in their contract?
A first class constable in Halifax makes well over $70,000 a year.....I doubt the RCMP are less than that!
And I found this on one of those ask a question sites......
Starting as a regular member constable at an annual salary of $44,513. Normally, within 36 months of service, your salary will increase incrementally to $72,125 annually.
That sounds about right- boot the guy in the face before he can do anything. :smile:
A little bit more news on the same cop. (You may want to take a gander at this, Cannuck)
Video: More allegations against cop - Kelowna News - Castanet.net
Video: More allegations against cop - Kelowna News - Castanet.net
I remember that case, and yes the guy turned out to be the repo man.
This guy is not the ideal to be a police officer. It is time to get to the
bottom of the actions of this guy .
This guy is not the ideal to be a police officer. It is time to get to the
bottom of the actions of this guy .
Last summer I took a security course in effective communications, crisis management, restraints (handcuffing), and the baton. The course was taught by a gentleman that was a Toronto police officer for 20+ years, and then an instructor at two police colleges.
He said, in a lecture, that one of the most unfortunate things about policing was that it attracted a certain type that should never be a police officer, and that some of them slip through the cracks into police ranks.
I was pleased and surprised to hear that from a man that was all cop.
One suspects the officer in question is one that "slipped through the cracks".
He said, in a lecture, that one of the most unfortunate things about policing was that it attracted a certain type that should never be a police officer, and that some of them slip through the cracks into police ranks.
I was pleased and surprised to hear that from a man that was all cop.
One suspects the officer in question is one that "slipped through the cracks".
That's the way I see it, Colpy, no better place for a criminal to hide while earning a living than among those combatting crime. Thank God they are a tiny minority. (except in New Orleans about 20 years ago) I think the back bone of the R.C.M.P. is a decent organization and care for the average citizen.
I see this guy is achieving National fame-
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/01/21/16973906.html
http://www.torontosun.com/news/canada/2011/01/21/16973906.html
We have all been wondering what the hell happened in this case, we I was reading the Kelowna
Capital News for January 21 and in the editorial section I see a letter to the Editor, from Chris
Turton, the owner of Orchard Greens Golf Course. His course is right next to the Harvest course.
In fact in some areas there isn't even a fence between the two places. The headline is interesting
in itself. Legitimate Use of firearms on golf course.
Chris did in fact ask and allow Buddy to shoot to scare geese at the course as did the place next
door. As I said earlier, geese pooping on the snow, when it melts, it destroys the greens. I have
the full article but rather than print up the whole thing I leave you with some facts that were
established on this page.
Buddy had permission to shoot on the course, it is legal as well, in BC we have an Agricultural
Land Reserve and the course is on ALR lands. Farmland operators are allowed to scare birds and
shotguns are in a different category for use. There was no domestic dispute.
Turton states not only did I give him permission, he compensates him for doing so.
Here is a revealing statement from the article.
This sad injustice, started with questionable motives of a handy man mechanic who, with no authority
or just cause, exaggerated a routine event(scaring geese) by an employee of 18 years as a grounds
keeper. who fired two shells into the ground.
Turton also points out the police made not attempt to confirm there was a problem at the course and
did nothing to make sure what they were dealing with. In fact, Turton states the only one who behaved
in an adult manner, calm and collected. The film clearly shows the other police did nothing to stop this
guy from his act of violence.
Turton also points out that these same cops, are allowed to behave however they want at roadside
blood alcohol tests and people have no recourse. After viewing this several times, I am contemplating
changing my mind about the need for a provincial police force. This has to stop.
This piece is three columns long and takes up a quarter of a page. Turton is a well respected guy in
our community, I know him and know of his other business interests. So there you have it poor old
Buddy did nothing except have someone who didn't like him inform the police he had a gun and was
threatening someone with domestic dispute problems. Still think the cops needed to kick him in the
face, throw him in jail, put him before the courts and insist on all kinds of conditions for him to get out
of jail. After all he was thrown in jail when no crime took place on his part. In fact the alleged criminal
conduct was committed by the officer.
Nothing short of disgusting in my view.
Capital News for January 21 and in the editorial section I see a letter to the Editor, from Chris
Turton, the owner of Orchard Greens Golf Course. His course is right next to the Harvest course.
In fact in some areas there isn't even a fence between the two places. The headline is interesting
in itself. Legitimate Use of firearms on golf course.
Chris did in fact ask and allow Buddy to shoot to scare geese at the course as did the place next
door. As I said earlier, geese pooping on the snow, when it melts, it destroys the greens. I have
the full article but rather than print up the whole thing I leave you with some facts that were
established on this page.
Buddy had permission to shoot on the course, it is legal as well, in BC we have an Agricultural
Land Reserve and the course is on ALR lands. Farmland operators are allowed to scare birds and
shotguns are in a different category for use. There was no domestic dispute.
Turton states not only did I give him permission, he compensates him for doing so.
Here is a revealing statement from the article.
This sad injustice, started with questionable motives of a handy man mechanic who, with no authority
or just cause, exaggerated a routine event(scaring geese) by an employee of 18 years as a grounds
keeper. who fired two shells into the ground.
Turton also points out the police made not attempt to confirm there was a problem at the course and
did nothing to make sure what they were dealing with. In fact, Turton states the only one who behaved
in an adult manner, calm and collected. The film clearly shows the other police did nothing to stop this
guy from his act of violence.
Turton also points out that these same cops, are allowed to behave however they want at roadside
blood alcohol tests and people have no recourse. After viewing this several times, I am contemplating
changing my mind about the need for a provincial police force. This has to stop.
This piece is three columns long and takes up a quarter of a page. Turton is a well respected guy in
our community, I know him and know of his other business interests. So there you have it poor old
Buddy did nothing except have someone who didn't like him inform the police he had a gun and was
threatening someone with domestic dispute problems. Still think the cops needed to kick him in the
face, throw him in jail, put him before the courts and insist on all kinds of conditions for him to get out
of jail. After all he was thrown in jail when no crime took place on his part. In fact the alleged criminal
conduct was committed by the officer.
Nothing short of disgusting in my view.
If a few people like yourself keep hammering away, perhaps a lot of good will immerge from this reprehensible conduct by those who are paid to SERVE AND PROTECT.