Rapporteur David Johnson, Eminent Canadian

Ron in Regina

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(YouTube & Security clearance debate was a ‘made up thing’ by Trudeau to push back against Poilievre: Mulcair)

In an incident last month that may soon be considered ominous foreshadowing, Prime Minister Mark Carney was pressed by the media about his financial holdings and the ethical conundrums that they present. To change the subject, Carney boasted about his recently acquired security clearance, and claimed it was irresponsible for the leader of the Opposition not to obtain one himself.

This criticism flirted with the conspiracy theory that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre would fail a background check, which ignores the fact that Poilievre received his security clearance after becoming a cabinet minister in 2013, demonstrating that there had been no concerns by security and intelligence officials about his loyalty to Canada or compromising foreign connections.

Unlike other party leaders, Poilievre declined the offer to be cleared in order to view an unredacted National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) report on foreign electoral interference, which contained the names of parliamentarians alleged to be witting or semi-witting accomplices.

He noted that doing so would only lead to “some breadcrumbs of intel and then (being told) you can’t talk about any of this stuff anymore.”

Later, his office reiterated that unlike those party leaders who “are willing to limit their ability to hold the government to account on important issues of national security, Mr. Poilievre will not be gagged.”
After it came to light that Liberal MP Paul Chiang had suggested that one of the Chinese Community Party’s (CCP) most repressive laws should be enforced on Canadian soil — urging his constituents to turn another candidate over to the Chinese Consulate in exchange for a bounty — Poilievre’s refusal to be briefed and therefore retain his ability to speak freely would seem to be the correct choice.

Owing to his lack of access to classified information, Poilievre was free to observe that the Liberal party had been reticent to stand up to a “foreign hostile regime.”

The NSICOP foreign interference report had been redacted to obscure “privileged” information that, in its unclassified summary, “assessed that the PRC (People’s Republic of China) believes that its relationship with some members of Parliament rests on a quid pro quo that any member’s engagement with the PRC will result in the PRC mobilizing its network in the member’s favour.”

If Poilievre had been cleared to read the unredacted report (which would have entailed him promising not to reveal special operational information), and what he read had included the actions of PRC proxies, Poilievre’s criticisms about the unwillingness of the Liberal government to take these networks seriously could lead to allegations that he had committed an offence under Sec. 13 of the Security of Information Act, which carries with it a threat of up to 14 years in prison. In other words, he might have learned the details of lax responses to the CCP’s influence operations earlier, but he would’ve been prevented from speaking to Canadians on the topic when it mattered.
(YouTube & Carney probes Poilievre on not getting security clearance)

Poilievre’s unfettered ability to speak freely without fear of politicized claims of misuse of classified intelligence will remain vital during his campaign, as stunning evidence has just come to light that the CCP’s Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission is interfering directly in this election also.

In order to hold the government accountable at this critical juncture, Poilievre made the unpopular but responsible choice. Poilievre’s decision will be vindicated whenever he speaks freely about this stunning attempt by the CCP to secure Carney’s election.
 

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(YouTube & Security clearance debate was a ‘made up thing’ by Trudeau to push back against Poilievre: Mulcair)

In an incident last month that may soon be considered ominous foreshadowing, Prime Minister Mark Carney was pressed by the media about his financial holdings and the ethical conundrums that they present. To change the subject, Carney boasted about his recently acquired security clearance, and claimed it was irresponsible for the leader of the Opposition not to obtain one himself.

This criticism flirted with the conspiracy theory that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre would fail a background check, which ignores the fact that Poilievre received his security clearance after becoming a cabinet minister in 2013, demonstrating that there had been no concerns by security and intelligence officials about his loyalty to Canada or compromising foreign connections.

Unlike other party leaders, Poilievre declined the offer to be cleared in order to view an unredacted National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) report on foreign electoral interference, which contained the names of parliamentarians alleged to be witting or semi-witting accomplices.

He noted that doing so would only lead to “some breadcrumbs of intel and then (being told) you can’t talk about any of this stuff anymore.”

Later, his office reiterated that unlike those party leaders who “are willing to limit their ability to hold the government to account on important issues of national security, Mr. Poilievre will not be gagged.”
After it came to light that Liberal MP Paul Chiang had suggested that one of the Chinese Community Party’s (CCP) most repressive laws should be enforced on Canadian soil — urging his constituents to turn another candidate over to the Chinese Consulate in exchange for a bounty — Poilievre’s refusal to be briefed and therefore retain his ability to speak freely would seem to be the correct choice.

Owing to his lack of access to classified information, Poilievre was free to observe that the Liberal party had been reticent to stand up to a “foreign hostile regime.”

The NSICOP foreign interference report had been redacted to obscure “privileged” information that, in its unclassified summary, “assessed that the PRC (People’s Republic of China) believes that its relationship with some members of Parliament rests on a quid pro quo that any member’s engagement with the PRC will result in the PRC mobilizing its network in the member’s favour.”

If Poilievre had been cleared to read the unredacted report (which would have entailed him promising not to reveal special operational information), and what he read had included the actions of PRC proxies, Poilievre’s criticisms about the unwillingness of the Liberal government to take these networks seriously could lead to allegations that he had committed an offence under Sec. 13 of the Security of Information Act, which carries with it a threat of up to 14 years in prison. In other words, he might have learned the details of lax responses to the CCP’s influence operations earlier, but he would’ve been prevented from speaking to Canadians on the topic when it mattered.
(YouTube & Carney probes Poilievre on not getting security clearance)

Poilievre’s unfettered ability to speak freely without fear of politicized claims of misuse of classified intelligence will remain vital during his campaign, as stunning evidence has just come to light that the CCP’s Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission is interfering directly in this election also.

In order to hold the government accountable at this critical juncture, Poilievre made the unpopular but responsible choice. Poilievre’s decision will be vindicated whenever he speaks freely about this stunning attempt by the CCP to secure Carney’s election.
More importantly, when some secret information should happen to fall into his hands, he can repeat it with impunity. I think this is the part that scares the liberals.
 
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Ron in Regina

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A federal election-threats watchdog has uncovered a foreign interference operation from China aimed at shifting public opinion among Chinese-speaking Canadians against a Toronto-area Conservative candidate who is a sharp critic of Beijing’s crackdown on civil rights in Hong Kong.

The Security and Intelligence Threats to Elections (SITE) Task Force announced Monday this campaign targeting Joe Tay, the Conservative Party candidate for the federal riding of Don Valley North, is taking place on social-media platforms where Chinese-speaking Canadians are active, including WeChat, Facebook, RedNote, TikTok and Douyin, a short-video app owned by the same company as TikTok.

SITE described this effort as a transnational repression operation – a form of foreign interference where authoritarian governments reach beyond their borders to harass, threaten and intimidate people overseas who are critical of these regimes.
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“This attempt by Hong Kong authorities to conduct transnational repression abroad, including by issuing threats, intimidation and coercion against Canadians or those in Canada, will not be tolerated,” she said.

Federal officials say the content of the operation targeting Mr. Tay features disparaging commentary and a mock “wanted” poster of the Conservative candidate, whom the government in Beijing-controlled Hong Kong seeks to arrest and charge for his criticism of civil-rights violations in the former British colony.

Last December, Hong Kong police announced a bounty of HK$1-million – about $184,000 – for information leading to Mr. Tay’s arrest for allegedly violating a national-security law imposed on the Asian port city by China. Mr. Tay runs a YouTube channel, HongKongerStation, that draws attention to repression in Hong Kong.
Ms. Kempton said SITE has observed “inauthentic and co-ordinated amplification” of online attacks “related to the bounty and arrest warrant against Joe Tay, as well as content related to his competence for political office.” She said the task force has briefed Conservative officials twice about this campaign.

In a statement Monday, Mr. Tay said all political parties should denounce this foreign interference by China. He said it’s consistent with past attacks on him by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP), which has ruled China for more than 75 years.

“The information revealed is, unfortunately, not new to me or my volunteers,” he said. “We have seen these ‘wanted posters’ and other threats circulating throughout this campaign. They are consistent with the CCP tradecraft, similar to the other threats that have been made against me throughout this campaign.”
 
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(YouTube & Security clearance debate was a ‘made up thing’ by Trudeau to push back against Poilievre: Mulcair)

In an incident last month that may soon be considered ominous foreshadowing, Prime Minister Mark Carney was pressed by the media about his financial holdings and the ethical conundrums that they present. To change the subject, Carney boasted about his recently acquired security clearance, and claimed it was irresponsible for the leader of the Opposition not to obtain one himself.

This criticism flirted with the conspiracy theory that Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre would fail a background check, which ignores the fact that Poilievre received his security clearance after becoming a cabinet minister in 2013, demonstrating that there had been no concerns by security and intelligence officials about his loyalty to Canada or compromising foreign connections.

Unlike other party leaders, Poilievre declined the offer to be cleared in order to view an unredacted National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians (NSICOP) report on foreign electoral interference, which contained the names of parliamentarians alleged to be witting or semi-witting accomplices.

He noted that doing so would only lead to “some breadcrumbs of intel and then (being told) you can’t talk about any of this stuff anymore.”

Later, his office reiterated that unlike those party leaders who “are willing to limit their ability to hold the government to account on important issues of national security, Mr. Poilievre will not be gagged.”
After it came to light that Liberal MP Paul Chiang had suggested that one of the Chinese Community Party’s (CCP) most repressive laws should be enforced on Canadian soil — urging his constituents to turn another candidate over to the Chinese Consulate in exchange for a bounty — Poilievre’s refusal to be briefed and therefore retain his ability to speak freely would seem to be the correct choice.

Owing to his lack of access to classified information, Poilievre was free to observe that the Liberal party had been reticent to stand up to a “foreign hostile regime.”

The NSICOP foreign interference report had been redacted to obscure “privileged” information that, in its unclassified summary, “assessed that the PRC (People’s Republic of China) believes that its relationship with some members of Parliament rests on a quid pro quo that any member’s engagement with the PRC will result in the PRC mobilizing its network in the member’s favour.”

If Poilievre had been cleared to read the unredacted report (which would have entailed him promising not to reveal special operational information), and what he read had included the actions of PRC proxies, Poilievre’s criticisms about the unwillingness of the Liberal government to take these networks seriously could lead to allegations that he had committed an offence under Sec. 13 of the Security of Information Act, which carries with it a threat of up to 14 years in prison. In other words, he might have learned the details of lax responses to the CCP’s influence operations earlier, but he would’ve been prevented from speaking to Canadians on the topic when it mattered.
(YouTube & Carney probes Poilievre on not getting security clearance)

Poilievre’s unfettered ability to speak freely without fear of politicized claims of misuse of classified intelligence will remain vital during his campaign, as stunning evidence has just come to light that the CCP’s Central Political and Legal Affairs Commission is interfering directly in this election also.

In order to hold the government accountable at this critical juncture, Poilievre made the unpopular but responsible choice. Poilievre’s decision will be vindicated whenever he speaks freely about this stunning attempt by the CCP to secure Carney’s election.
Pierre has made the right decision. Carney is a Chinese plant along with the WEF so Canada will be in real trouble if he's elected! He's a danger to Canada - period!!!
 

Ron in Regina

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Two of the frontrunners are of Chinese heritage—Joe Tay, who’s running for the Conservatives, and Liberal Maggie Chi. Yet for very different reasons, both are avoiding media attention. Tay is the subject of a HK$1 million ($180,000 Canadian) bounty and is wanted in Hong Kong for his vocal support of the territory’s pro-democracy movement. Canada’s election interference task force has also found an operation to discredit him on social media platforms for the Chinese market.

Meanwhile, Chi is trying to steer clear of the perception in some quarters that Liberals—and ethnic Chinese party members especially—have an overly cozy relationship with Beijing.

Tay, who is the first Conservative candidate of Chinese descent in Don Valley North since the riding was created in 1987, made international headlines just weeks before the election, after a Liberal candidate in the riding of Markham-Unionville apologized for “deplorable” comments he made in January, suggesting people could claim the bounty on Tay by bringing him in to the Chinese consulate.
 

Ron in Regina

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On Monday, Canada announced the expulsion of six Indian diplomats over allegations of foreign interference. In a full court press conference, RCMP commissioner Michael Duheme warned of widespread violence, homicides, and a public security threat linked to agents of the Indian government. New Delhi has rejected the allegations, and sent six Canadian diplomats packing in return.

The accusations are appalling, and no country should be targeting the citizens of another on foreign soil. But why are these revelations coming out now?

On the surface, they provide a great distraction from the weekend’s attempted internal coup on the prime minister. The story of a revolt among Liberal MPs, thirty of which apparently signed a letter asking the PM to quit, hit the news cycle on Saturday. Then, presto: on Monday, the RCMP dropped its bombshell, allowing the PM to take to the airwaves and sound all grave and solemn and prime-minister like, defending Canadian sovereignty.

Hmm. But that would be too obvious. So let’s look at what else is going on in Ottawa, namely the Hogue Commission on Foreign interference. On Friday, the Commission heard from Public Safety Minister Bill Blair that his office sat for 54 days on a warrant to investigate Ontario Liberal MPP Michael Chan, accused of doing China’s bidding in Canada. Blair offered “no explanation” for the delay, and neither did his chief of staff.

Three days later, boom: India stands accused of being the major agent of transnational repression in Canada. China, who? And the focus switches from the Liberal government’s failings to the murderous machinations of New Delhi. And here’s the kicker: who is responsible for ensuring that the RCMP is “effective, accountable and addresses the government’s priorities?” You guessed it: Bill Blair, the minister of public safety.
According to Chapter 5 of the 2023 NSICOP report on the federal policing mandate of the RCMP, while there exists a core concept of police independence, the minister of public safety provides ministerial direction on “national security investigations in sensitive sectors,” including issuing directives to the RCMP “to implement special measures when investigating terrorist offences or activities which have an impact on fundamental institutions in Canadian society, including academia, politics, religion, the media and trade unions.”

I’m not saying India isn’t engaged in transnational repression, but the timing of this exposure is highly convenient for both the minister and the government. It’s also highly convenient for China, which relishes any chance to bash India, its chief rival for dominance of the Indo Pacific.

For whom is it inconvenient? Not just India. It’s also inconvenient for Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives. Left-wing media outlets made noise last month about alleged Indian efforts to build a “war chest” of funds to disparage Trudeau and help elect Poilievre. The same month, the Hindustan times reported that Poilievre told Canadian Hindu media that “Anti-Hindu and Hinduphobia agendas have no place (in Canada). I detest how the prime minister has divided our people. We were getting along in this country. Now look, everybody is fighting.”

And then there’s NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, who, until August, was Trudeau’s loyal coalition supporter. When he was deputy leader of the Ontario NDP in 2015, Singh spoke at a Sikh “sovereignty rally” in San Francisco that venerated violent Khalistani leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, and accused India of “trying to wipe us out.” In an interview on a Punjabi station in Canada in 2018, when asked to comment on Khalistani separatist referenda, Singh said “in any place if people seek freedom, it is their right to seek freedom.”

Why is India apparently willing to kill to crush the Khalistani movement? Sikhs have been demanding a separate state in the Punjab since India was partitioned in 1947. In the 1980’s, the Khalistanis engaged in major acts of terrorism, including the bombing of Air India Flight 182 in 1985 which killed 329 people and was attributed to Sikh extremists in Canada. Today, Khalistanis regularly hold referenda in the US and Canada on creating a separate state, with the goal holding an independence vote in the Punjab in 2025.

None of this is an excuse for murdering Canadian citizens. But nor should it be an excuse for this government to play diaspora politics and shield its own misdeeds.
India's foreign minister spoke to his Canadian counterpart in a call on Sunday, taking the first step to mend the strained bilateral relations between the two countries.
Same Party, different hat. Maybe strike four will be different with most of the same players on the team?🤞
 

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India's foreign minister spoke to his Canadian counterpart in a call on Sunday, taking the first step to mend the strained bilateral relations between the two countries.
Same Party, different hat. Maybe strike four will be different with most of the same players on the team?🤞
Indians have more tribes than our Casino Indians. Life in Newton Surrey has taught me It'll take several Indian MPs to to jive to deal with Indian MPs who jive.

Plural.