Rapporteur David Johnson, Eminent Canadian

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Justin Trudeau and his desperate band of Liberals want to distract you.
They want you to believe that the biggest threat to Canada when it comes to foreign interference is that Pierre Poilievre won’t get his security clearance to read a secret report on the issue.

It’s not that China and other countries have been interfering in Canada’s democracy for years without the Trudeau government taking any action to deal with the issue.

“Why is the leader of the Conservative Party not getting his security clearance?” Trudeau asked in response to a question from Poilievre on Wednesday.

Poilievre hadn’t asked Trudeau a question about foreign interference, he asked about the green slush fund and the $400 million in contracts “directed by Liberal appointees to their own companies.” It’s a serious issue, one found to have seen 186 conflicts of interest in a program that the Liberals shut down after a scathing audit.

Trudeau didn’t want to talk about that issue though, so he raised Poilievre and his security clearance. In fact, the Liberals raised the issue 16 times on Wednesday with Trudeau raising it eight times himself.

Since then, the Liberals have been playing to the conspiracy theorists in their ranks and online, claiming in statements and social media videos that Poilievre won’t get his security clearance because he can’t pass. It’s a claim without any merit, Poilievre has had top secret clearance in the past, but it is popular with the TruAnon base that the Liberals are courting online.

Poilievre has been clear, he believes that taking the full briefing on the foreign interference report by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians would silence him. That’s not an unreasonable view and one that has been supported by Tom Mulcair, former leader of the opposition and the federal NDP.
Trudeau, as prime minister, has had access to all of the information on foreign interference for years and has not acted on it. In September 2019, he was even briefed on concerns raised by CSIS that one of his candidates had received help from China to secure his nomination.

Trudeau didn’t act on that information. He didn’t stop Han Dong, who has denied knowing anything about assistance from China, from running as a Liberal. Trudeau never followed up on the allegations at all and Dong ran again as a Liberal in 2021.
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We know that no one in the Liberal government thought to brief Conservative MP Michael Chong that he was the subject of interference by China. Chong only found out due to media reports that Chinese officials in Canada were collecting information on his extended family in Hong Kong and feeding it back to security officials in Beijing.

During all of this time, the Trudeau government never once expelled a Chinese diplomat over foreign interference. The Liberals simply took the help from Beijing and looked the other way.

When CSIS wanted to get a warrant to tap the phones and vehicles used by Liberal fundraiser and former Ontario Liberal cabinet Minister Michael Chan, the Trudeau government sat on it. It took 54 days to get the warrant application approved by then Public Safety Minister Bill Blair despite most warrants being signed in 4-8 days.
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The Liberals claim there were no partisan considerations in the delay, but that’s simply not believable. That delay seriously impeded the investigation by CSIS and may have helped protect key Liberals.
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While Trudeau and his team claim Poilievre is the problem and he can’t pass a security check, the telling difference between the two men is how they are reacting to this issue.

Trudeau is doing all he can to stop the public from knowing the full truth. Poilievre is demanding the names of all MPs involved in foreign interference be made public.
It does make one wonder just how much turdOWE has raked in from foreign governments.
 

Ron in Regina

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Ron in Regina

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says he's asked intelligence services to find a way to brief Pierre Poilievre about foreign interference allegations involving his party — and possibly to share "some names" with the Conservative leader.

"I have asked the security services to figure out a way to give some information to the leader of the Opposition so that he can actually fulfil his responsibility of protecting Canadians, including those within his own caucus," Trudeau said during question period Wednesday.

"It would be easier (??For Whom, for what??) if he got his security clearance, but I've asked them to give him some information nonetheless."

His comments prolong an ongoing, bitter back-and-forth about political foreign interference and Poilievre's refusal to date to go through the screening process to obtain a security clearance.
Poilievre responded that if Trudeau wants to release names, "he can legally do it now on the floor of the House of Commons."

The Opposition leader has long argued against getting that clearance by saying he would be bound by secrecy laws and couldn't speak openly or challenge the government.


Last week, government House leader Karina Gould accused Poilievre of "hiding something from Canadians" through his refusal to get the national security clearance he needs to review classified documents??? The old secret agenda….

"Does he think he might not be able to pass a security clearance, or does he know something and he's trying to hide it? Or is there something that he's trying to protect?" Gould said in an accompanying video.

Conservative MP Michael Chong calls PM's foreign interference testimony 'highly irresponsible'

Conservative spokesperson Sebastian Skamski said Poilievre isn't concerned about going through the security check and pointed out that he's already been through the process as a cabinet minister.

"Submitting private personal information to a security clearance check is not a concern for Mr. Poilievre, nor has he ever expressed that as a concern," Skamski said.

"To the contrary, Mr. Poilievre's objection is that he will be silenced by the Trudeau Liberal government — a view which he has repeatedly stated publicly."

Speaking to a parliamentary committee Tuesday, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) director Dan Rogers said it's better for party leaders to be "knowledgeable" about foreign interference.

"From our perspective, the more knowledgeable that party leaders are about the threat of foreign interference, some of the specifics we've seen through our intelligence, the more they can be aware and the more they may be able to take actions appropriate within their own party," he said.

He said if a leader doesn't have a security clearance, CSIS will look at other mechanisms to reduce a threat. Oh? So this was an option all along?

"If a leader chooses to have a clearance, we can have a broader conversation with them about the details of the threat and certain types of intelligence," said Rogers.

CBC has reached out to CSIS to ask if it would be willing to share with Poilievre the names of parliamentarians allegedly involved in foreign interference.
 

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Last week, government House leader Karina Gould accused Poilievre of "hiding something from Canadians" through his refusal to get the national security clearance he needs to review classified documents??? The old secret agenda….
What word best describes the Secret Agenda Holders accusing the opposition of having a secret agenda?
D_sp__ate
Would you like to buy a vowel?
 
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Ron in Regina

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Speaking to reporters in Ottawa on Monday, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh responded to a social media post by Liberal MP Chandra Arya suggesting Sikh separatists “have effectively infiltrated into [Canadian] law enforcement agencies. “What I expect leaders to do is to bring down tensions, not escalate and not drive divisions with conspiracy theories,” Singh said of the fellow Parliamentarian.
 

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Speaking to reporters in Ottawa on Monday, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh responded to a social media post by Liberal MP Chandra Arya suggesting Sikh separatists “have effectively infiltrated into [Canadian] law enforcement agencies. “What I expect leaders to do is to bring down tensions, not escalate and not drive divisions with conspiracy theories,” Singh said of the fellow Parliamentarian.
Hindu mad at Sikh?.....nooooo never happens.

At least Sikh join the police out of desire to serve and protect as a lifestyle. Cool faith.
 

Ron in Regina

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The NDP wants a right-wing influencer called before Parliament and admonished after she refused to answer questions at a parliamentary committee? Seriously???

Lauren Chen, a Canadian and co-founder of American firm Tenet Media, appeared before MPs at the parliamentary committee on Public Safety and National Security on Tuesday and refused to answer any questions.
Lock her up, & release her when she’s talking to the parliamentary committee & not before that happens. Done deal.

“The shocking allegations against Ms. Chen in relation to her accepting millions of dollars from the Russian government in exchange for intentionally spreading disinformation as a social media influencer, with the express purpose to sow distrust in and undermine Canada’s democratic institutions, is a matter of the most serious in nature,” MacGregor said in a letter obtained by the Star.

Admonishing witnesses before the bar of the House of Commons was previously rare, but has lately happened more often. ArriveCan contractor Kristian Firth was called before the bar earlier this year for refusing to provide answers to MPs. In 2021, then Public Health Agency of Canada president Iain Stewart was admonished for declining to provide documents about the Winnipeg labs scandal.

Should have locked them up too until then answered parliamentary committee questions. Done & done.
 

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The NDP wants a right-wing influencer called before Parliament and admonished after she refused to answer questions at a parliamentary committee? Seriously???

Lauren Chen, a Canadian and co-founder of American firm Tenet Media, appeared before MPs at the parliamentary committee on Public Safety and National Security on Tuesday and refused to answer any questions.
Lock her up, & release her when she’s talking to the parliamentary committee & not before that happens. Done deal.

“The shocking allegations against Ms. Chen in relation to her accepting millions of dollars from the Russian government in exchange for intentionally spreading disinformation as a social media influencer, with the express purpose to sow distrust in and undermine Canada’s democratic institutions, is a matter of the most serious in nature,” MacGregor said in a letter obtained by the Star.

Admonishing witnesses before the bar of the House of Commons was previously rare, but has lately happened more often. ArriveCan contractor Kristian Firth was called before the bar earlier this year for refusing to provide answers to MPs. In 2021, then Public Health Agency of Canada president Iain Stewart was admonished for declining to provide documents about the Winnipeg labs scandal.

Should have locked them up too until then answered parliamentary committee questions. Done & done.
Shows how toothless our Parliment and elected representatives are . Sad .
 

Ron in Regina

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Hogue's initial report, made public in May, called foreign interference a "stain" on this country's electoral system, but she said meddling attempts did not affect which political party formed government…enough?…
On Friday, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said inquiry Commissioner Marie-Josée Hogue asked for more time, and he's agreed to extend her deadline until Jan. 31, 2025. She originally had to have her final findings in by Dec. 31 of this year.
 

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Hogue's initial report, made public in May, called foreign interference a "stain" on this country's electoral system, but she said meddling attempts did not affect which political party formed government…enough?…
On Friday, Public Safety Minister Dominic LeBlanc said inquiry Commissioner Marie-Josée Hogue asked for more time, and he's agreed to extend her deadline until Jan. 31, 2025. She originally had to have her final findings in by Dec. 31 of this year.
11 weeks? Why so long?