They are liberals that is what they are best at , going back at least to Lester Pearson .
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These Liberals have more scandals going on than every scandal going back to Pearson combined.
True , but they learned from the best and have had sixty years perfecting their trade .
She’s female, Liberal, & it’s 2015-ish…a former chief of staff to a Liberal public safety minister has denied suggestions she worked to stall approval of a spy service warrant in early 2021 because it directly touched the operations of the Trudeau government.
Zita Astravas called the allegation "categorically false" during testimony late Wednesday at a federal inquiry into foreign interference.
The inquiry has heard that it took 54 days for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service warrant application to be approved by Bill Blair, public safety minister at the time.
The average turnaround time for such applications is four to 10 days.
Michelle Tessier, CSIS deputy director of operations during the period, has told the inquiry there was frustration with the delay, etc…link below:
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Zita Astravas called the allegation "categorically false" during testimony late Wednesday at a federal inquiry into foreign interference.
The inquiry has heard that it took 54 days for the Canadian Security Intelligence Service warrant application to be approved by Bill Blair, public safety minister at the time.
The average turnaround time for such applications is four to 10 days.
Michelle Tessier, CSIS deputy director of operations during the period, has told the inquiry there was frustration with the delay, etc…link below:
Ex-chief of staff to public safety minister denies stalling spy warrant approval — The Canadian Press
A former chief of staff to a Liberal public safety minister has denied sugges
India calls expulsions of diplomats from Canada ‘preposterous imputations’ driven by Trudeau’s agenda — The Globe and Mail
In a flurry of statements late Monday, India accused Trudeau of ‘smearing India for political gains’ and ordered six Canadian diplomats to leave
The accusations are appalling, and no country should be targeting the citizens of another on foreign soil. But why are these revelations coming out now?
On the surface, they provide a great distraction from the weekend’s attempted internal coup on the prime minister. The story of a revolt among Liberal MPs, thirty of which apparently signed a letter asking the PM to quit, hit the news cycle on Saturday. Then, presto: on Monday, the RCMP dropped its bombshell, allowing the PM to take to the airwaves and sound all grave and solemn and prime-minister like, defending Canadian sovereignty.
Hmm. But that would be too obvious. So let’s look at what else is going on in Ottawa, namely the Hogue Commission on Foreign interference. On Friday, the Commission heard from Public Safety Minister Bill Blair that his office sat for 54 days on a warrant to investigate Ontario Liberal MPP Michael Chan, accused of doing China’s bidding in Canada. Blair offered “no explanation” for the delay, and neither did his chief of staff.
Three days later, boom: India stands accused of being the major agent of transnational repression in Canada. China, who? And the focus switches from the Liberal government’s failings to the murderous machinations of New Delhi. And here’s the kicker: who is responsible for ensuring that the RCMP is “effective, accountable and addresses the government’s priorities?” You guessed it: Bill Blair, the minister of public safety.
Tasha Kheiriddin: Liberals play diaspora politics to hide their failure to address foreign interference — National Post
India allegations timed to distract from Blair, Trudeau and the China file
I’m not saying India isn’t engaged in transnational repression, but the timing of this exposure is highly convenient for both the minister and the government. It’s also highly convenient for China, which relishes any chance to bash India, its chief rival for dominance of the Indo Pacific.
For whom is it inconvenient? Not just India. It’s also inconvenient for Pierre Poilievre and the Conservatives. Left-wing media outlets made noise last month about alleged Indian efforts to build a “war chest” of funds to disparage Trudeau and help elect Poilievre. The same month, the Hindustan times reported that Poilievre told Canadian Hindu media that “Anti-Hindu and Hinduphobia agendas have no place (in Canada). I detest how the prime minister has divided our people. We were getting along in this country. Now look, everybody is fighting.”
And then there’s NDP leader Jagmeet Singh, who, until August, was Trudeau’s loyal coalition supporter. When he was deputy leader of the Ontario NDP in 2015, Singh spoke at a Sikh “sovereignty rally” in San Francisco that venerated violent Khalistani leader Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, and accused India of “trying to wipe us out.” In an interview on a Punjabi station in Canada in 2018, when asked to comment on Khalistani separatist referenda, Singh said “in any place if people seek freedom, it is their right to seek freedom.”
Why is India apparently willing to kill to crush the Khalistani movement? Sikhs have been demanding a separate state in the Punjab since India was partitioned in 1947. In the 1980’s, the Khalistanis engaged in major acts of terrorism, including the bombing of Air India Flight 182 in 1985 which killed 329 people and was attributed to Sikh extremists in Canada. Today, Khalistanis regularly hold referenda in the US and Canada on creating a separate state, with the goal holding an independence vote in the Punjab in 2025.
None of this is an excuse for murdering Canadian citizens. But nor should it be an excuse for this government to play diaspora politics and shield its own misdeeds.
Sikh leaders welcome Canada’s expulsion of Indian diplomats, say India’s alleged criminal acts pose safety threat — The Globe and Mail
World Sikh Organization president says the RCMP has confirmed what his group has long suspected
Now this?
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How far back does just this thread alone go? 18 months or so?
The fact that Trudeau’s closest advisers weren’t aware of two of six major suspected incidents of foreign interference until the Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference (PIFI) further highlights issues with how intelligence was or was not disseminated within government in recent years???
Top PMO officials not aware of 'major instances' of foreign interference until this summer — National Post
That Trudeau's closest advisers weren't informed further highlights issues with how intelligence was disseminated within government in recent years
The fact that Trudeau’s closest advisers weren’t aware of two of six major suspected incidents of foreign interference until the Public Inquiry into Foreign Interference (PIFI) further highlights issues with how intelligence was or was not disseminated within government in recent years???
U.S. urges India to co-operate with Canadian criminal investigations linked to New Delhi — The Globe and Mail
Whitehouse spokesperson says the Indian government is not assisting Canadian authorities over ‘extremely serious’ allegations
Wag the Dog.Singh concerned about India, but not China. Trudeau & Friends throwing this out now is weird & interesting timing too.
U.S. urges India to co-operate with Canadian criminal investigations linked to New Delhi — The Globe and Mail
Whitehouse spokesperson says the Indian government is not assisting Canadian authorities over ‘extremely serious’ allegations
More smoke and mirrors and deflection?? Will it be anything but accusations without facts or details to just cloud the water?
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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau suggested Wednesday that Canadian intelligence agencies have information that multiple Conservative politicians are “engaged” or at risk from foreign interference schemes.
In shocking
testimony at the foreign interference commission Wednesday morning, Trudeau took aim at Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre for refusing top secret briefings on a national security threat that allegedly has penetrated his own party.
“Because I am prime minister and privy to all these informations, I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged or are at high risk of or for whom there is clear intelligence around foreign interference,” Trudeau told the commission’s lawyers.
“And I have directed CSIS and others to try and inform the Conservative Party leader to be warned and armed to be able to make decisions that protect the integrity of that party and its members from attempts at foreign activities around foreign interference.”
So that’s why they conservatives have been demanding that names be named for years now???
“The decision by the leader of the Conservative Party to not get those classified briefings means that nobody in his party, not him, and nobody in a position of power knows the names of these individuals and can take appropriate action,” Trudeau added. Really?
Trudeau called it “bewildering” that Poilievre has so far refused to accept the briefings from Canada’s national security agencies.
Poilievre has argued that accepting the top-secret briefings would prevent him from asking questions about foreign interference in the House of Commons – something that has not prevented NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh or Green Party Leader Elizabeth May from receiving the information….except that Poilievre & the conservatives are actually opposition in the house as opposed to Jagmeet & Lizzie May.
Justice Marie-Josée Hogue’s inquiry has previously heard testimony that parliamentarians have “wittingly or unwittingly” participated in foreign interference schemes – evidence that echoes the findings of an all-party national security committee of parliamentarians earlier this year.
But neither that committee nor Hogue’s inquiry has given any hint about who those parliamentarians are. The only sitting parliamentarian named in evidence before the Hogue commission is Han Dong, the now-independent Don Valley North MP who was elected as a Liberal.
Trudeau says there’s intelligence Tories 'engaged or are at high risk' from foreign interference — Global News
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says its 'inexplicable Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre refuses to get top secret briefings on alleged foreign meddling in his own party.
In shocking
testimony at the foreign interference commission Wednesday morning, Trudeau took aim at Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre for refusing top secret briefings on a national security threat that allegedly has penetrated his own party.“Because I am prime minister and privy to all these informations, I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada who are engaged or are at high risk of or for whom there is clear intelligence around foreign interference,” Trudeau told the commission’s lawyers.
“And I have directed CSIS and others to try and inform the Conservative Party leader to be warned and armed to be able to make decisions that protect the integrity of that party and its members from attempts at foreign activities around foreign interference.”
So that’s why they conservatives have been demanding that names be named for years now???
“The decision by the leader of the Conservative Party to not get those classified briefings means that nobody in his party, not him, and nobody in a position of power knows the names of these individuals and can take appropriate action,” Trudeau added. Really?
Trudeau called it “bewildering” that Poilievre has so far refused to accept the briefings from Canada’s national security agencies.
Poilievre has argued that accepting the top-secret briefings would prevent him from asking questions about foreign interference in the House of Commons – something that has not prevented NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh or Green Party Leader Elizabeth May from receiving the information….except that Poilievre & the conservatives are actually opposition in the house as opposed to Jagmeet & Lizzie May.
Justice Marie-Josée Hogue’s inquiry has previously heard testimony that parliamentarians have “wittingly or unwittingly” participated in foreign interference schemes – evidence that echoes the findings of an all-party national security committee of parliamentarians earlier this year.
But neither that committee nor Hogue’s inquiry has given any hint about who those parliamentarians are. The only sitting parliamentarian named in evidence before the Hogue commission is Han Dong, the now-independent Don Valley North MP who was elected as a Liberal.
Surprise surprise….
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“My message to Justin Trudeau is: Release the names of all MPs that have collaborated with foreign interference,” Poilievre said in his statement.
“But he won’t. Because Justin Trudeau is doing what he always does: He is lying. He is lying to distract from a Liberal caucus revolt against his leadership and revelations he knowingly allowed Beijing to interfere and help him win two elections.”
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In a statement to the Toronto Sun, a spokesperson for the Prime Minister’s Office said: “If Pierre Poilievre gets his security clearance, he’ll get all the information the prime minister spoke about in testimony today (& not be able to discuss it in Parliament, & forfeit his ability to actually be the opposition to the government on this file). Finding out about foreign interference impacting his own party, parliamentarians, candidates and leadership race isn’t something he can delegate to his parliamentary staff.”
John Ivison: Trudeau deftly turns the foreign interference inquiry into a Liberal attack ad — National Post
On any other day, the prospect of interfering in a police matter would have dominated the news
Justin Trudeau says he knows which Conservatives are connected to foreign meddling — scolds Pierre Poilievre for refusing to find out — Toronto Star
Trudeau says he has directed the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS) to encourage Poilievre "to be warned and armed."
“But he won’t. Because Justin Trudeau is doing what he always does: He is lying. He is lying to distract from a Liberal caucus revolt against his leadership and revelations he knowingly allowed Beijing to interfere and help him win two elections.”
Poilievre accuses Trudeau of 'lying' about Tories linked to interference — Toronto Sun
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre accused Justin Trudeau of “lying” during an appearance at the foreign interference inquiry after the Prime Minister claimed to have names of Conservative lawmakers involved in foreign interference. The top federal Tory took Trudeau to task on Wednesday in a...
Here is the latest from 35,000 feet above the middle of the USA.
LILLEY: Justin Trudeau wants Canadians kept in the dark on foreign interference — Toronto Sun
Meanwhile, Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has called for names of those involved to be released for more than a year
Trudeau takes a shot but...
Trudeau criticized Pollievre for not taking a security clearance that would have given him access to the names of compromised or possibly compromised Conservatives. Pollievre's resistance has been clear from the outset. The resistance comes in the form of a disclaimer attached to that clearance...
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Until now, the inquiry headed by Madam Justice Marie-Josee Hogue has been a thoughtful probe into how the tentacles of foreign governments have reached into this country’s electoral processes.
That changed when Trudeau, in his best imitation of a drama teacher, declared he had information that implicated Conservative politicians as potential pawns of foreign agents.
“I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada, who are engaged or at high risk of —or for whom there is clear intelligence around — foreign interference,” Trudeau said.
Let’s parse that word salad a little closer. What exactly does he mean by “parliamentarians”? And when he says they’re “engaged, or at high risk” of being used by foreign governments, is he saying he has clairvoyant powers and can tell us who may in future fall under the sphere of foreign actors?
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He railed against Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre for not getting the security clearance needed to be briefed on the issue. Poilievre refuses to do so, saying it will limit what he can discuss. Poilievre rebutted Trudeau’s outlandish claims, saying the prime minister is lying.
“My chief of staff has received classified briefing from the government. At no time has the government told me or my chief of staff of any current or former Conservative parliamentarian or candidate knowingly participating in foreign interference,” he said in a statement.
Compare Trudeau’s disgraceful performance with that of Conservative MP Michael Chong. Last year, Chong spoke with such dignity at Congressional hearings into foreign interference on Capitol Hill in Washington that U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle praised him. This week he called Trudeau’s testimony a “smear.”
Chong is the model of what an honest parliamentarian should be.
Trudeau’s actions threaten to turn the commission into a witch hunt. It’s reminiscent of post-war Washington and Senator Joseph McCarthy waving papers and threatening to name names. It’s disgraceful and un-Canadian. If Trudeau suspects anyone of treason, he should call in the RCMP. Put up or shut up; let them lay charges. Give us names. Or give us an election.
That changed when Trudeau, in his best imitation of a drama teacher, declared he had information that implicated Conservative politicians as potential pawns of foreign agents.
“I have the names of a number of parliamentarians, former parliamentarians and/or candidates in the Conservative Party of Canada, who are engaged or at high risk of —or for whom there is clear intelligence around — foreign interference,” Trudeau said.
Let’s parse that word salad a little closer. What exactly does he mean by “parliamentarians”? And when he says they’re “engaged, or at high risk” of being used by foreign governments, is he saying he has clairvoyant powers and can tell us who may in future fall under the sphere of foreign actors?
EDITORIAL: Is it an inquiry or witch hunt? — Toronto Sun
The shameful performance by Prime Minister Justin Trudeau before the Foreign Interference Commission indicates just how low he’s prepared to stoop to cling to power. Until now, the inquiry headed by Madam Justice Marie-Josee Hogue has been a thoughtful probe into how the tentacles of foreign...
“My chief of staff has received classified briefing from the government. At no time has the government told me or my chief of staff of any current or former Conservative parliamentarian or candidate knowingly participating in foreign interference,” he said in a statement.
Compare Trudeau’s disgraceful performance with that of Conservative MP Michael Chong. Last year, Chong spoke with such dignity at Congressional hearings into foreign interference on Capitol Hill in Washington that U.S. lawmakers on both sides of the aisle praised him. This week he called Trudeau’s testimony a “smear.”
Chong is the model of what an honest parliamentarian should be.
Trudeau’s actions threaten to turn the commission into a witch hunt. It’s reminiscent of post-war Washington and Senator Joseph McCarthy waving papers and threatening to name names. It’s disgraceful and un-Canadian. If Trudeau suspects anyone of treason, he should call in the RCMP. Put up or shut up; let them lay charges. Give us names. Or give us an election.
Speaking in Parliament on Monday, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh expressed disappointment in the Liberal party for blocking a motion to form an India-Canada committee amid alleged foreign interference. “This is an ongoing trend I’ve seen with the Liberals. They put up barricade after barricade, block after block to pursue foreign interference,” Singh said.
Because Conservatives? Wait! Neither Singh or Trudeau mentioned Conservatives here…so this is probably dis/mis-information.
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Because Conservatives? Wait! Neither Singh or Trudeau mentioned Conservatives here…so this is probably dis/mis-information.
Singh 'disappointed' after Liberals block motion for India-Canada committee — Global News
Speaking in Parliament on Monday, NDP leader Jagmeet Singh expressed disappointment in the Liberal party for blocking a motion to form an India-Canada committee amid alleged foreign interference. “This is an ongoing trend I've seen with the Liberals. They put up barricade after barricade, block...
Justin Trudeau cherry picks his foreign interference battles
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Justin Trudeau and his desperate band of Liberals want to distract you.
They want you to believe that the biggest threat to Canada when it comes to foreign interference is that Pierre Poilievre won’t get his security clearance to read a secret report on the issue.
It’s not that China and other countries have been interfering in Canada’s democracy for years without the Trudeau government taking any action to deal with the issue.
“Why is the leader of the Conservative Party not getting his security clearance?” Trudeau asked in response to a question from Poilievre on Wednesday.
Poilievre hadn’t asked Trudeau a question about foreign interference, he asked about the green slush fund and the $400 million in contracts “directed by Liberal appointees to their own companies.” It’s a serious issue, one found to have seen 186 conflicts of interest in a program that the Liberals shut down after a scathing audit.
Trudeau didn’t want to talk about that issue though, so he raised Poilievre and his security clearance. In fact, the Liberals raised the issue 16 times on Wednesday with Trudeau raising it eight times himself.
Since then, the Liberals have been playing to the conspiracy theorists in their ranks and online, claiming in statements and social media videos that Poilievre won’t get his security clearance because he can’t pass. It’s a claim without any merit, Poilievre has had top secret clearance in the past, but it is popular with the TruAnon base that the Liberals are courting online.
Poilievre has been clear, he believes that taking the full briefing on the foreign interference report by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians would silence him. That’s not an unreasonable view and one that has been supported by Tom Mulcair, former leader of the opposition and the federal NDP.
Trudeau, as prime minister, has had access to all of the information on foreign interference for years and has not acted on it. In September 2019, he was even briefed on concerns raised by CSIS that one of his candidates had received help from China to secure his nomination.
Trudeau didn’t act on that information. He didn’t stop Han Dong, who has denied knowing anything about assistance from China, from running as a Liberal. Trudeau never followed up on the allegations at all and Dong ran again as a Liberal in 2021.
We know that no one in the Liberal government thought to brief Conservative MP Michael Chong that he was the subject of interference by China. Chong only found out due to media reports that Chinese officials in Canada were collecting information on his extended family in Hong Kong and feeding it back to security officials in Beijing.
During all of this time, the Trudeau government never once expelled a Chinese diplomat over foreign interference. The Liberals simply took the help from Beijing and looked the other way.
When CSIS wanted to get a warrant to tap the phones and vehicles used by Liberal fundraiser and former Ontario Liberal cabinet Minister Michael Chan, the Trudeau government sat on it. It took 54 days to get the warrant application approved by then Public Safety Minister Bill Blair despite most warrants being signed in 4-8 days.
The Liberals claim there were no partisan considerations in the delay, but that’s simply not believable. That delay seriously impeded the investigation by CSIS and may have helped protect key Liberals.
While Trudeau and his team claim Poilievre is the problem and he can’t pass a security check, the telling difference between the two men is how they are reacting to this issue.
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It’s not that China and other countries have been interfering in Canada’s democracy for years without the Trudeau government taking any action to deal with the issue.
“Why is the leader of the Conservative Party not getting his security clearance?” Trudeau asked in response to a question from Poilievre on Wednesday.
Poilievre hadn’t asked Trudeau a question about foreign interference, he asked about the green slush fund and the $400 million in contracts “directed by Liberal appointees to their own companies.” It’s a serious issue, one found to have seen 186 conflicts of interest in a program that the Liberals shut down after a scathing audit.
Trudeau didn’t want to talk about that issue though, so he raised Poilievre and his security clearance. In fact, the Liberals raised the issue 16 times on Wednesday with Trudeau raising it eight times himself.
Since then, the Liberals have been playing to the conspiracy theorists in their ranks and online, claiming in statements and social media videos that Poilievre won’t get his security clearance because he can’t pass. It’s a claim without any merit, Poilievre has had top secret clearance in the past, but it is popular with the TruAnon base that the Liberals are courting online.
Poilievre has been clear, he believes that taking the full briefing on the foreign interference report by the National Security and Intelligence Committee of Parliamentarians would silence him. That’s not an unreasonable view and one that has been supported by Tom Mulcair, former leader of the opposition and the federal NDP.
Trudeau didn’t act on that information. He didn’t stop Han Dong, who has denied knowing anything about assistance from China, from running as a Liberal. Trudeau never followed up on the allegations at all and Dong ran again as a Liberal in 2021.
We know that no one in the Liberal government thought to brief Conservative MP Michael Chong that he was the subject of interference by China. Chong only found out due to media reports that Chinese officials in Canada were collecting information on his extended family in Hong Kong and feeding it back to security officials in Beijing.
During all of this time, the Trudeau government never once expelled a Chinese diplomat over foreign interference. The Liberals simply took the help from Beijing and looked the other way.
When CSIS wanted to get a warrant to tap the phones and vehicles used by Liberal fundraiser and former Ontario Liberal cabinet Minister Michael Chan, the Trudeau government sat on it. It took 54 days to get the warrant application approved by then Public Safety Minister Bill Blair despite most warrants being signed in 4-8 days.
The Liberals claim there were no partisan considerations in the delay, but that’s simply not believable. That delay seriously impeded the investigation by CSIS and may have helped protect key Liberals.
While Trudeau and his team claim Poilievre is the problem and he can’t pass a security check, the telling difference between the two men is how they are reacting to this issue.
Trudeau is doing all he can to stop the public from knowing the full truth. Poilievre is demanding the names of all MPs involved in foreign interference be made public.
LILLEY: Trudeau, not Poilievre, the real foreign interference threat — Toronto Sun
Trudeau has spent years trying to keep the truth about foreign interference from becoming public.