Racial profiling?

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tamarin said:
The human animal has accumulated admirable survival skills built on the ability to profile and stereotype. How else do you know to sense danger? How else do you sensibly exercise caution? It's becomes instinctive. Some profiling has become an issue in our society but it must be appreciated that profiling stems from an intelligence moulded by long centuries of playing the survival game well.
If police have on a security camera that a black guy about 20-years-old robbed a store, then stopping middle-aged white women wouldn't make sense, but the ability to profile by instinct doesn't make sense, becuase so many stereotypes are wrong. Most people in US jails for drug crimes are black, but most people who commit drug crimes in the US are white, so it's a racist system. I think racial profiling will always result in racism to some degree.
 

tamarin

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Racism and sexism and ageism and speciesism and ethnicism will always be here and most of us guard against them. But that doesn't relieve us of the responsibility to act decisively based on what we know. What experience has taught us. We have to act sensitively and sensibly as I've said before. But not to act is unforgivable.
 

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tamarin said:
Racism and sexism and ageism and speciesism and ethnicism will always be here and most of us guard against them. But that doesn't relieve us of the responsibility to act decisively based on what we know. What experience has taught us. We have to act sensitively and sensibly as I've said before. But not to act is unforgivable.
I don't get it. Are you saying racism is a survival skill?
 

tamarin

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Any aspect of an ism is a survival skill. Why do we instruct doctors to direct the suspension of any elderly driver they deem to be physically compromised and why do governments mandate yearly or biannual driver examinations once one is 80? It's discriminatory, it's ageism but it's based on hard experience.
Why do health authorities target AIDS campaigns to minority communities? Because that's were incidence is a problem. We discriminate based on hard experience.
Why do police instruct tourists to stay out of certain enclaves of Toronto when visiting? It's racist but based on hard experience.
Hey, it fits with the 'harm reduction' policy so popular in Canada today. Applied sensitively it makes sense.
 

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tamarin said:
Any aspect of an ism is a survival skill. Why do we instruct doctors to direct the suspension of any elderly driver they deem to be physically compromised and why do governments mandate yearly or biannual driver examinations once one is 80? It's discriminatory, it's ageism but it's based on hard experience.
Why do health authorities target AIDS campaigns to minority communities? Because that's were incidence is a problem. We discriminate based on hard experience.
Why do police instruct tourists to stay out of certain enclaves of Toronto when visiting? It's racist but based on hard experience.
Hey, it fits with the 'harm reduction' policy so popular in Canada today. Applied sensitively it makes sense.

haha...you're right...
 

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tamarin said:
Any aspect of an ism is a survival skill. Why do we instruct doctors to direct the suspension of any elderly driver they deem to be physically compromised and why do governments mandate yearly or biannual driver examinations once one is 80? It's discriminatory, it's ageism but it's based on hard experience.
Why do health authorities target AIDS campaigns to minority communities? Because that's were incidence is a problem. We discriminate based on hard experience.
Why do police instruct tourists to stay out of certain enclaves of Toronto when visiting? It's racist but based on hard experience.
Hey, it fits with the 'harm reduction' policy so popular in Canada today. Applied sensitively it makes sense.
Driver's licenses are different, there are physical issues that are more likely to be aproblem when one is older. Tourists should stay out of parts of Toronto because people who are poorer are more likely to mug them, because they need the money more. And they're poorer because A) their parents were poor and so they didn't get as good as education and B) employers discriminate on the basis of race.
Black/Hispanic/Asian/Arab people aren't more likely to be a threat due to their race. Racism is not based on experience, that's just what people tell themselves.
 

tamarin

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It's worse than racial profiling. A recent story out of London states British police and other law enforcement personnel there are considering profiling the weird! If you act differently from your peers, have a funny look, smile like a dick or laugh like a horse you're likely to be pulled over at the airport clearance lounge. Just because you're weird. Now I've heard it all.
 

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tamarin said:
It's worse than racial profiling. A recent story out of London states British police and other law enforcement personnel there are considering profiling the weird! If you act differently from your peers, have a funny look, smile like a dick or laugh like a horse you're likely to be pulled over at the airport clearance lounge. Just because you're weird. Now I've heard it all.

Hehehe... Then I guess we should all start worrying about the FBI dropping into our homes...
 

agentkgb

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tamarin said:
It's worse than racial profiling. A recent story out of London states British police and other law enforcement personnel there are considering profiling the weird! If you act differently from your peers, have a funny look, smile like a dick or laugh like a horse you're likely to be pulled over at the airport clearance lounge. Just because you're weird. Now I've heard it all.
That's insane.
 

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And I still wonder why it is politically incorrect to "profile" suspects and wanted criminals!!


Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?

-1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred
by:
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3.During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5 In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver
trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to
take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed
into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the
passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremist s mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13. 2004 - Spain Railway bombings were done by:


a. Casey Jones

b. Johnny Cash

c. Larry, Moe and Curley

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


AND NOW !


14. 2005 London Railway bombings were done by:


a. Sherlock Holmes

b. Ringo, George, Paul and John

c. Anthony Hopkins

d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss,..........................

.................but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because it is politically incorrect to use profiling.



 

Curiosity

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Colpy

Excellent!

Political correctness is another form of sheepdom and as we are all given brains .... we should use them... so we can become knowledgable through exercise and decision-making.

What kind of government prefers tapdancing around semantics, putting its population at risk while treating them like eight year olds.... refusing to introduce reality.

With the internet allowing us to speak our inner voices without censorship, we become more sophisticated and learn to weigh opposing opinion, while our poor governments plod on thinking we are waiting for the word.... ha....they should catch up.
 

gc

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Colpy, nice multiple choice. Can I add a few questions to it?

The person who killed hitchhikers & children on Vancouver island in the early eighties was:

a) Male muslims between the age of 17 and 40
b) The Easter bunny
c) A white male between the age of 25 and 50
d) Santa Clause

The person who killed over 20 women and fed them to pigs was:

a) Male muslims between the age of 17 and 40
b) A white male between the age of 25 and 50
c) Elves
d) Pinocchio

The person who killed women in St. Catherines in the early 90's was

a) A white male between the age of 25 and 50
b) Male muslims between the age of 17 and 40
c) The tooth fairy
d) Bugs Bunny

The "son of sam" was:

a) A male muslim between the age of 17 and 40
b) Daffy Duck
c) Celine Dion
d) A white male between the age of 25 and 50

The "BTK killer" was:

a) A male muslim between the age of 17 and 40
b) A white male between the age of 25 and 50
c) A polar bear
d) A penguin

I wish I had more time to create more multiple choice questions....maybe later.