Quit picking on Obama……
- Thread starter DaSleeper
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Some time or other the guy will bark his shin on something and then all his idolaters will see that he isn't really a god because he can bleed red blood. It happens to the best of them, Lincoln, JFK, the Roosevelts, Jefferson, etc.
Newsflash: presidents aren't gods.
Newsflash: presidents aren't gods.
They aren't gods, and they aren't devils.
For the most part, they are people trying to do the best job they can, within the system.
Whether you agree or disagree with whatever current President or PM you have, it would be worthwhile to remember that they aren't evil or perfect. They are men or women who have stepped up to try to do a great job.
Exactly my point, although I think politicians are a little bit less perfect than the rest of us.
There for the most part lawyers. ugh. Trained by Satan. Evil, Evil, the ones who cause all the troubles in the world by either their action or inaction. One thing they are not are :angel13:'s
Actually, I think you have a point there. I just remembered Glen Clark, BC's most unbeloved premiere.
It doesn’t work that way, TenPenny. If one is a Republican, then Obama is a Communist, a Fascist, a Nazi, a Socialist, an illegal alien, a spy of USSR, a Muslim terrorist and so on.
The political acclimate in USA is so poisoned these days that there is no civility, no politeness, no rational discourse. Nothing good is seen in the opposing side, nothing bad is seen in the side one supports.
That was evident when Republicans were rooting for any city but Chicago to get the Olympics (because Obama wanted Chicago to get them) and presumably there were Champaign celebrations in Republican quarters when Chicago was denied the Olympics, when Republicans trashed Obama soundly for winning the Nobel Prize etc.
So what you say does make sense, and that is how it should work out in politics, but it doesn’t, at least not in USA.
Kelly McParland: The nastiest man in Ottawa, er, Washington
Posted: October 22, 2009
Quick now, who does this sound like to you?:
A government leader who manipulates the press to his own ends, ignores those he considers hostile in favour of those he considers friendly, bypasses the traditional press pack in favour of local reporters and carefully utilizes new means of communication to get out his preferred message while bypassing the establishment media and subverting its monopoly on the national agenda.
A leader who surrounds himself with partisan and ultra-loyal aides and advisors who work relentlessly to undermine the opposition, targeting and disparaging influential critics through regular public attacks even though such tactics add to the bitter divisions that are already a focus of much public complaint.
A leader who travels regularly, raising record levels of money at expensive fundraisers peopled by the wealthy, to be put to use in furthering his agenda and undermining those of his opponents, who uses his office as a tool against his enemies, who seeks to emphasize his differences with opponents to enhance appreciation of his legislative record against regular attacks.
It's Stephen Harper, right? Mr. Nasty. The ultra-partisan prime minister. The guy who has made Canada an embarrassment on the world stage, where we're no longer taken seriously because we're government by a Conservative rather than a Liberal.
Nope. It's Barack Obama as described in this report by Politico, the all-politics web site in Washington. It's the first of a two-part look at the White House campaign to kneecap its opponents. Politico describes how the Obama administration: "is working systematically to marginalize the most powerful forces behind the Republican Party, setting loose top White House officials to undermine conservatives in the media, business and lobbying worlds."
"With a series of private meetings and public taunts, the White House has targeted the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the biggest-spending pro-business lobbying group in the country; Rush Limbaugh, the country’s most-listened-to conservative commentator; and now, with a new volley of combative rhetoric in recent days, the insurance industry, Wall Street executives and Fox News.
Obama aides are using their powerful White House platform, combined with techniques honed in the 2008 campaign, to cast some of the most powerful adversaries as out of the mainstream and their criticism as unworthy of serious discussion."
Read the rest. It's highly illuminating. It also makes the Harper PMO, target of endless wailing and bitterness in Ottawa, look like a bunch of pussycats. How do the Liberals and NDP keep up the charade about Harper the Evil when the president they venerate is playing the same game?
Posted: October 22, 2009
Quick now, who does this sound like to you?:
A government leader who manipulates the press to his own ends, ignores those he considers hostile in favour of those he considers friendly, bypasses the traditional press pack in favour of local reporters and carefully utilizes new means of communication to get out his preferred message while bypassing the establishment media and subverting its monopoly on the national agenda.
A leader who surrounds himself with partisan and ultra-loyal aides and advisors who work relentlessly to undermine the opposition, targeting and disparaging influential critics through regular public attacks even though such tactics add to the bitter divisions that are already a focus of much public complaint.
A leader who travels regularly, raising record levels of money at expensive fundraisers peopled by the wealthy, to be put to use in furthering his agenda and undermining those of his opponents, who uses his office as a tool against his enemies, who seeks to emphasize his differences with opponents to enhance appreciation of his legislative record against regular attacks.
It's Stephen Harper, right? Mr. Nasty. The ultra-partisan prime minister. The guy who has made Canada an embarrassment on the world stage, where we're no longer taken seriously because we're government by a Conservative rather than a Liberal.
Nope. It's Barack Obama as described in this report by Politico, the all-politics web site in Washington. It's the first of a two-part look at the White House campaign to kneecap its opponents. Politico describes how the Obama administration: "is working systematically to marginalize the most powerful forces behind the Republican Party, setting loose top White House officials to undermine conservatives in the media, business and lobbying worlds."
"With a series of private meetings and public taunts, the White House has targeted the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the biggest-spending pro-business lobbying group in the country; Rush Limbaugh, the country’s most-listened-to conservative commentator; and now, with a new volley of combative rhetoric in recent days, the insurance industry, Wall Street executives and Fox News.
Obama aides are using their powerful White House platform, combined with techniques honed in the 2008 campaign, to cast some of the most powerful adversaries as out of the mainstream and their criticism as unworthy of serious discussion."
Read the rest. It's highly illuminating. It also makes the Harper PMO, target of endless wailing and bitterness in Ottawa, look like a bunch of pussycats. How do the Liberals and NDP keep up the charade about Harper the Evil when the president they venerate is playing the same game?
Hey Walter --- you didn't answer my question: what are the corresponding numbers for the Pukies???
To those of you who love Obama so much. Guess were seeing the best or what is left of Capitalism
Have your very own Obama Chia pet.
It is not so much a question of loving Obama so much as it is one of hating him with a passion. The guy has been in office for only nine months (and already won the Nobel Prize, much to the disgust of Obama haters); he has more than three years to go. To criticize him ceaselessly at this point smacks of hatred, nothing more. We still don’t know what he is going to accomplish in his presidential term, most of his term still has to unfold.
The czars have been given immunity. The White House has told Congress it will reject calls for many of President Obama's policy czars to testify before Congress - a decision senators said goes against the president's promises of transparency and openness and treads on Congress' constitutional mandate to investigate the administration's actions.
White House: Policy 'czars' won't testify - Washington Times
All Hail the King.
White House: Policy 'czars' won't testify - Washington Times
All Hail the King.
Probably the same as anyone else's .... - infinity to + infinity with 0 stuck in the middle. Then there are the imaginary numbers and stuff like that, too.