Quebec Sucks
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The best thing that could happen to the Kweebeckers as you call the is for them to be assimilated into Anglo-Canadian culture and transformed from Francophones to Anglophones like they should have done over 200 years ago. Had the British followed the recomendations of Lord Durham to forcibly assimilate the French Canadians, then non of this nonsence would he happening to day. The Asssimiliation of Quebec is never to late to implement and should be implemented soon. The Canadian Government should follow the example of how the Francophone Belgians transformed Brussels from a Dutch to a French City after the Belgian Revolution. Before the Belgian Revolution of 1830, Brussels was a Dutch City, after the Revolution the city changed from a Dutch city to a French city by strict laws and shamming the local Dutch Belgians to assimilate and speak the French Language. If the Francophone Belgians (Walloons, Catholic Church, Flemish Nobility, French Immigrants) could transform Brussels, then so can Canada transform Quebec from an French speaking province to an English speaking province.
Canada could also copy how France dealt with the German Language in the Province of Alsace Lorraine. Before 1918 Alsace Lorraine was a German speaking province of the German Empire, after WW1 when it was awarded to France, France draffed draconian laws, banned the German Language, shammed the German people into speaking French and transformed Alsace Lorraine from a German Province of the German Empire to a French Province of the French Republic.
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Canada should do this
01. Encourage the Anglo-Quebecers who fled Quebec from the mid 70's to the present day along with their extended families to return to Quebec
02. Encourage British Immigration from the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand and the United States to come to Canada and live in Quebec
03. Restrict all Francophone immigration to the Province of Quebec.
"French Canadians are a people with no literature and no history"
Lord Durham
French Canadians have a habbit of being backward people. Lord Durham once noted that the French of Canada has not changed in 200 years. French in Canada were 200 years behind the British in Canada. In 1839, if you entered the vast majority of Quebec, you would think that you were in a time warp back in the 17th Century instead of the 19th Century. He said that the French Canadians should assimiliate into a progressive British Culture. Back then the modern world did not touch many parts of Quebec and the population were still living in a world where the Priests were in controll and they still believed in the Eart of Flat and that Vampires and Werevolves were real . The only modern parts of 19th Century Quebec was the cities of Montreal and Quebec City which had the largest Anglophone populations of Quebec and they also dominated and ruled these cities governments and economy. The British bought the modern world to the Quebecois and they should be happy instead of unhappy.
LONG LIVE A UNITED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Absolute baloney.
Riel was a bit whacked, no doubt about it, he was hardly the hero he has become.
But Scott stepped way out of line.....remember, there was no law here but the Metis law; Riel's law....no government but the Provisional Government........and Scott was tried under the rules of that gov't. Riel was not guilty of murder before a Canadian court, he committed no crime in Canada. He may have shot some arrogant, mouthy, asshole Orangeman, but that was, in that time and place NOT a crime.
Oh, BTW, Scott was shot by firing squad......and was not even sentenced by Riel. Some facts: Riel, Louis
As for the second rebellion in the 1880s.....the Metis were literally starving to death when they sent Gabriel Dumont south into the USA to bring Riel back to lead them........I guess they should have fallen into their graves happily smiling with the honour of dying to get out of the way of the Empire, Huh?
(sarcasm alert) :roll:
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1885 Gabriel Dumont fled to the USA was pardoned five years later, returned to Batoche and died in his bed in 1906. Riel could have saved himself but refused to plead insanity.
It was Riel who gained French rights in Canada with the Manitoba Act of 1870.
It was Riel who gained French rights in Canada with the Manitoba Act of 1870.
Lord Durham is an ethnocentric figure of Canada's colonial past who had as much vision as a mole. He planned the assimilation of the Québecois and what happened was the opposite. :thumbup: wow... what a hero...
"Radical Jack" is also credited with the establishment of responsible government in Canada.....the beginnings of real democracy. That he tried to prevent what is now the over-riding problem of Canadian politics (two peoples, two systems, two philosophies under one roof, two solitudes, as it were) by integrating the whole in a democratic nation shows a little more than "as much vision as a mole"
You are speaking French because of British and Canadian tollerance and benvolance. Had the British and Canada treated the French Language in Canada like how the French Republic treated the German Language in Aslace Lorraine then the French Language will be dead and buried by now. The British did not enforce the recomondations by Lord Durham seriously, had they did this the French Language would have died in 2 generations. The Canadians must copy the French on how to kill the French Language in Quebec and the rest of Canada by instituting draconian laws and shamming the French Canadians into abadoning the French Language and adopting the English Language.
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" For the linguistic unity of France, the Breton Language must disapear"
Anatole De Monzie- 1925
Former Public Education Minister of the Republic of France (3rd Republic)
" Their is no place for the regional languages and cultures in a France that intends to mark Europe deeply"
Georges Pompidou- 1974
Former President of the Republic of France (5th Republic)
an exerpt of France's Language Policy in France under the 3rd Republic
The only Language allowed in Primary School was French. All other languages were forbidden, even in the schoolyard and transgressions were severly punnished. After 1918 the use of the German Language in Alsace Lorraine was outlawd. In 1925, Anatole de Monzie,, Minster of Public Education, stated that " For the linguistic unity of France, the Breton Language must disapear" . As a result, the speakers of minnority languages began to be shamed when using their own language- especially in the education system- and over time many familes stopped teaching their language to their children and tried to speak only French to them.
If the British and later Canada was really serious about assimilitaion of the Quebecois and the Anglicisation of Quebec, you and your fellow Quebecois would not be speaking the French Language and would instead be speaking the English Language. The French Language would be a dead or an endangerd language like the Breton Language is in France.
However its not to late to Anglicise Quebec and to Assimilate the Quebecois, all Canada has to do is to shame the Quebecois into giving up the French Language into speaking the English Language and banning the French Language in draconian laws like the laws forced on Alsace Lorraine just after the First World War, when Alsace Lorraine was annexed from German to France. Quebec can be Anglicised with waves of Anglophones from Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, United States and the perscuted Anglo-Africans from places like Zimbabwe. The French Language is a like a housecat in North America, the English Language is a Tiger that will devour this pesky housecat. Like it or not the French Language will die out in North American (including Quebec). The English Language is the domient language in North American and it is the language of the media, hollywood, big buisness. Quebecois are bombarded with the English Language threw films, music, etc and with enough bombarding they will start to speak English and give up French.
With Quebec be Anglicised and the Quebecois being assimilated, both Canada and Quebec would be much better places. Life would be so much easier with 1 Language to unify the whole people of Canada. The French Language is the Language of the past, the English Language is the Language of the Present and Future. Just give up the French Language and be assimilated just like how your brothers and sisters the cajuns have done in Louisiana. Canada if they were serious could transform Quebec from a Francophone province to an Anglophone province just like how the United States transormed Louisiana from a Francophone State to an Anglophone State.
s_lone, congratulations: You are speaking white. I am proud of you. The sooner that all Quebecois are speaking white the better it would be for both the Dominion of Canada and its Province of Quebec.
LONG LIVE A UNITED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
Durham, it can't be a United Canada if there is no Union.
How about we go with the original solutions and we all become francophone? All the protections Qubec has in place were put there to protect English Canada from being assimilated by the French when they outnumbered the English by a large margin.
How about we go with the original solutions and we all become francophone? All the protections Qubec has in place were put there to protect English Canada from being assimilated by the French when they outnumbered the English by a large margin.
The French Canaidans like you are the ones who should be assimilated and become Anglophones and not the Anglo Canadians being assimiliated into Francophones. The British WON and the French LOST the French and Indian War and that gives the right for the Anglo Canadians to ban the French Language and to impose a policy of Assimiliation of the Quebecois and the Anglicisation of Quebec. Have you heard the saying " To the Victors, goes the spoils". The British are the Victors and the French are the defeated that spoils is Canada and imposing the English Language on Quebec. Once a people are defeated they should be forced to speak the language and adopt the culture of their conquerors.
I find its a shame that the Poor French Canadians did not leave New France just after the British defeat of the French in the French and Indian War instead of the Rich French Canadians. The Rich French Canadians should have stayed in Canada and the Poor French Canadians should have left. Rich French Canadians would have been more usefull and and far less insolent and disloyal then the Poor French Canadians and besides their numbers would have been a lot less smaller then the Poor French Canadians. Rich French Canadians would have bee easier to assimilate and anglicised then the Poor French Canadians.
I am surprised that the French after loosing New France to the British Empire did not invade the Portugese Colony of Brazil. The population of Brazil was very small back then and the French and the refugee French Canadians could have landed and conquered Brazil and transformed it into a "New" New France. The Portugese Colony of Brazil was comprised of modern day Brazil and Uruguay and at the combined area was much larger the New France. The French had 2 Colonies in Brazil from time to time. The First was called France Antarctique and second was France Equinoxiale.
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This is the most fair and liberal language policy that I would support for Canada and its Provinces and Territories!
National Language(s) of the Dominion of Canada
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Newfoundland (Minus Labrador)
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Nova Scotia
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of New Brunswick
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Prince Edward Island
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Quebec (Plus Labrador)
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Ontario
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Manitoba
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Saskatchewan
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Alberta
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of British Columbia
English
Territorial Language(s) of the Yukon Territory
English
Territorial Language(s) of the Northwest Territory (Including Nunavut Territory)
English
LONG LIVE A UNITED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
I'll give him his due of credit. But let me point out that Louis-Joseph Papineau had been fighting for a responsible government for quite some time. Why do you think Durham was sent to Canada in the first place? A lot of people already wanted real democracy.
You're quite the clown aren't you?
There is no such thing as benevolence in colonialism. There is only self-interest. Did the British show benevolence to the Acadians?
Get your head out of your ass get real... The British let the French-Canadians keep their religion and language because it was in their self-interest to do so. French Canadians were too numerous and had the English tried to dictate the rules too much, the history of Canada would have been much bloodier than it is. The only reason the British acted as they did towards the French-Canadians was to avoid a bloody mess.
To say they acted out of benevolence is tantamount to saying the US went in Irak out of benevolence... yeah right... I wouldn't be surprised if that's what you think though...
That comment reveals much about you and nothing about me. You're the only one speaking ''white'' here...
Canadian Civil War
Maybe Canada does need a civil war to determin wheter Quebec stays apart of Canada or gain its independence. Peacefull referendums of 1980 and 1995 in which Quebec voted to stay in Canada has not solved the Quebec Question!. Canada is a democracy, but we must realise that just because Canada is a democracy that does not protect it from Civil War. Look at the United States. The United States had a civil war to bury the nonsence of Southern Succession and Independence. The Confederates of the South were in my oppion brave and courageous people who at least fought for their independence and the right to succede from the United States, The Quebecois on the other hand are too cowardly to follow the foot steps of the Southern Confederates. The Confederates had the guts to fire on Fort Sumpter, The Quebecois on the otherhand dont have the guts to do their own Fort Sumpter. The only way I would accept Quebec independence is if the Quebecois starts a war with Canada and wins. The Canadian Civil War will be bloody on both sides between Canada and the Anglo-Quebecers on one side and the Quebecois on the other, but we all know that Canada and Anglo-Quebecers will be victorious in this war no matter how long it would take.
Canada and Anglo-Quebecers will choke the life out of the Quebecois rebels. Canada will invade Quebec by 3 Fronts
WESTERN FRONT
Royal Canadian Armed Forces will invade the Province of Quebec from the Province of Ontario
EASTERN FRONT
Royal Canadian Armed Forces will invade the Province of Quebec from the Maritime Provinces
HOME FRONT
Anglo-Quebec Militia Forces will strike the Quebecois Forces form with in the Province of Quebec.
I predict that a Civil War in Canada would be over in 2-6 Months. Canadian Soldiers and Marines would be on the streets of Montreal with in 1-3 weeks and the Quebec City with in 3-5 Weeks. Their would be no place for the Quebecois rebels to hide and the only way of escape would be to swim in the St Lawrence River out to the Atlantic Ocean or head South to New Zealand. Canada and Anglo-Quebecers will not be alone in fighting the Quebecois rebels, but will he helped by the First Nations living in Quebec too. We all know how the Quebecois treat the First Nations in Quebec and the First Nations will be all to happy to help in the Anglo-Quebec Militia Forces in battling the Quebecois rebels. The Quebecois rebels could face another threat comming from the South were American Militias who would head to the New England/Quebec border to fight and join with the Anglo-Quebec milita forces to further help their brothers and sisters in fighting the enemy.
When Canada wins this Civil War. Some of the Peace Terms that it should propose are
01. Ban the Parti Quebecois and any other Seperatists Orginisations!
02. Try all the Leaders of the Parti Quebecois in a Court of Law
03. Deport all members of the Parti Quebecois and any other Quebec Paramilitary Forces
04. Repeal all Anti-English Legislation like Bill 101, Bill 78, Bill 22
05. Restore the English Language in Quebec
06. Restore the historical Anglo-Quebec population back to 25% of Quebec's Population
06. Transform Quebec City and Montreal into Anglophone majority cities
07. Return all properties and buisness to Anglo-Quebecers who fled Quebec in the past
08. Rename the National Assembly of Quebec to the Legislatuve Assemble of Quebec
09. Dismantle the Language Police
10. Return all Anglo-Quebecers who fled Quebec and their extended familes back to Quebec
11. Restore Bilingualism to the Province of Quebec with English being the Senoir Language
12. Make English on Quebec Signs twice as large of that of French
13. Return Anglo-Quebecers to controling the government of Quebec in Quebec City
14. Return Anglo-Quebecers to controling the Economy of Quebec in Montreal
15. Change the Flag of Quebec from the current Flag to a British Blue Engisn Flag
16. Repeal the stupid notion of "Quebec is a Nation with in a Nation"
17. Make Quebecois children learn about real history instead of Revionsim history
18. Return the Province of Quebec back to what it was before the "Quite Revolution"
LONG LIVE A UNTED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
To begin with, you are forgetting 2 more fronts. Northern Kweebeck is mostly aboriginal and not the least bit interested in the silly little ideas of the separatists. Since northern Kweebeck is the most important part of the province, the separatists would have to take the fight there.
The second front you are forgetting is the American front. The hydro electricity that flows into NY state is far too important to Americans to allow them to sit on the sidelines. Even if they didn't care who won (and they do) they want the shenanigans over as quick as possible. That is why during the first referendum, they just happen to have a sizable force on maneuvers in NY.
The coming civil war (and it will come) will last 2-6 days not 2-6 months.
The way to stop terrorism after the victory of Canada over Quebecois Rebels is
01. Try all Leaders of the Parti Quebecois and their Military wing the FLQ (Sentencing them to Death, Life in Prisonment, Various Long Prison Terms)
02. Deport and expell all the members and supporters of the Parti Quebecois and the Military Wing the FLQ from Canada (Including Quebec) to either the United States, France, Mexico, Argentina and Chile
03. Confiscate all weapons from supporters and members of the Parti Quebecois and the FLQ and their familes too
04. Declare Martial Law in Quebec for 1- 10 years dependending on the resistance from Parti Quebecois and FLQ holdouts
05. Flood the Province of Quebec with Royal Canadian Army Soldiers, Royal Canadian Navy Sailors, Royal Canadian Airforce Airmen, Royal Canadian Mounted Policeman, Anglo-Quebec Militia, First Nation Militia and any other Pro-Canadian forces
06. Conrol who comes to the Province of Quebec and and especially watch out for Francophones (You guesed it Racial Profiling)
I propose the Island of Anticosti Island is where all of the Leaders and most dangeous members of the Parti Quebecois and the FLQ could be placed. Anticosti Island could be to Canada, what Guantanmo Bay is to the United States. Anticosti Island is just large enough to house all the leadership and most dangerous members of the Parti Quebecois and the FLQ. Canada could then build a massive wall and transform Anticosti Island into the world's biggest prison, a giant sized version of Alcatraz. Anticosti Island could then be made into a sort of reversed Elis Island to to deport and exile the members and supporters of the Parti Queebecois and the FLQ from Canada (including Quebec). I got this idea from the movies staring Kurt Russel called Escape from New York and Escape from L.A.
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I will repeat my Language Policy which I support!
National Language(s) of the Dominion of Canada
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Newfoundland (Minus Labrador)
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Nova Scotia
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of New Brunswick
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Prince Edward Island
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Quebec (Plus Labrador)
English, French
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Ontario
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Manitoba
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Saskatchewan
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of Alberta
English
Provincial Language(s) of the Province of British Columbia
English
Territorial Language(s) of the Yukon Territory
English
Territorial Language(s) of the Northwest Territory (Including Nunavut Territory)
English
The best place for the members and supporters of the Parti Quebecois and the FLQ to be deportated is to the United States and particulary the State of Louisiana. The State of Louisiana in my oppion should be a Bilingual (English, French) speaking State instead of a Unilingual (English) speaking State. The French Language needs increasing in both size and importance and the best way to do this is for these Quebecois to deportated their to increase the Francophone community in the State of Louisiana and to make the French Language to have the same importance and rights as the English Language in the State of Louisiana. The Francophones (Cajuns) would just love to have their numbers strenghtend by the deporated and expelled Quebecois Nationalists/Seperatists. The Quebecois would exchange Montreal and Quebec City for New Orleands and Baton Rouge. The Francophone population in Louisiana needs increasing just like the Anglophone population in Quebec needs increasing. The Quebecois seperatists/nationalists could be deportated to Louisiana just how the Acadians were deportated from Acadia back in 1755. Boy if this came about History would repeat itself and this would be a good thing.
LONG LIVE A UNITED CANADA
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
oh brilliant plan, its not like every other nation in the world hasn't tried that and failed.
I wonder if you really are this ignorant and fanatical with your desire to see people kill each other in your name (and have fun with that, cause I aint), or if you are pure troll.
I wonder if you really are this ignorant and fanatical with your desire to see people kill each other in your name (and have fun with that, cause I aint), or if you are pure troll.
Me i say to you and all stupids canadians who believe in your stupidity, go **** yourself and same for your elisabitch the queen, comprendez???
