Quebec Sucks

[Reivilo]

Re: RE: Quebec %^$@&$

You're right. Absolutely. and, let me retract my last statement of hanging flags.

To clarify, I DO love it here. I'd have moved a long time ago if I hated it as much as some do, but I think politically, this place is a major disaster.

Understand though, I have experienced alot of 'hatred' myself from the Francophone side of things so I guess I've developed a bit of a "grudge" myself.

Hope my post didn't offend you.

If Québécois are too stupid for you or if they are a major disaster I'll be very happy that you move to place like Ontario ..

Sont tu cons ces anglos!!! 8) .. J'avais pas tout lu et ça m'a frustré un peu mais bon après avoir lu un peu je retire mes paroles, certains anglo sont absurdes, si ils ne sont pas content au Québec, pourquoi ne vont-ils pas ailleurs!?

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: Quebec %^$@&$

You're right. Absolutely. and, let me retract my last statement of hanging flags.

To clarify, I DO love it here. I'd have moved a long time ago if I hated it as much as some do, but I think politically, this place is a major disaster.

Understand though, I have experienced alot of 'hatred' myself from the Francophone side of things so I guess I've developed a bit of a "grudge" myself.

Hope my post didn't offend you.

If Québécois are too stupid for you or if they are a major disaster I'll be very happy that you move to place like Ontario ..

Sont tu cons ces anglos!!! 8) .. J'avais pas tout lu et ça m'a frustré un peu mais bon après avoir lu un peu je retire mes paroles, certains anglo sont absurdes, si ils ne sont pas content au Québec, pourquoi ne vont-ils pas ailleurs!?

J'tétait tellement frustré avec ce type, moi qui n'est jamais faché. Lui s'est le plus idiot, racist, egocentrique anglophone que j,ai jamais connu! ''Pkl un anglophone qui na jamasi appris le francais devrais l'apprendre?''.... Criss de con tabarnak! Juste a y penser j'ai le gout de le détruire.

 

[OakServe]

Dont tar the whole community for the actions of the few or else you look even more foolish than they!

I took it with a grain of salt when I visit Quebec. Its a language thing... go to Germany and butcher German and they will probably laugh at you as well. Same could be said for any nation/language.

As for being arrogant... yeh so what? thats who they are! Many say aussies are the worlds worst tippers.... but again so what? Its what makes a culture and/or community.

BTW if you dislike them so much spend more time in the rest of Canada. No one is forcing you to stay in Quebec.

 

[Reivilo]

Re: RE: Quebec %^$@&$

You're right. Absolutely. and, let me retract my last statement of hanging flags.

To clarify, I DO love it here. I'd have moved a long time ago if I hated it as much as some do, but I think politically, this place is a major disaster.

Understand though, I have experienced alot of 'hatred' myself from the Francophone side of things so I guess I've developed a bit of a "grudge" myself.

Hope my post didn't offend you.

If Québécois are too stupid for you or if they are a major disaster I'll be very happy that you move to place like Ontario ..

Sont tu cons ces anglos!!! 8) .. J'avais pas tout lu et ça m'a frustré un peu mais bon après avoir lu un peu je retire mes paroles, certains anglo sont absurdes, si ils ne sont pas content au Québec, pourquoi ne vont-ils pas ailleurs!?

J'tétait tellement frustré avec ce type, moi qui n'est jamais faché. Lui s'est le plus idiot, racist, egocentrique anglophone que j,ai jamais connu! ''Pkl un anglophone qui na jamasi appris le francais devrais l'apprendre?''.... Criss de con tabarnak! Juste a y penser j'ai le gout de le détruire.

LoL.. Sais-tu moi aussi j'avais le gout de le détruire, pourquoi il s'en tête à ne pas apprendre le français, oui on parle un autre langue et oui on est différent et quand les gens disent que les Québécois ne donne pas beaucoup de pourboire c'est tout faux! Je suis déja allé a Hamilton en Ontario et lorsque j'ai été a un restaurent, les gens donnaient quoi, 1 $ de pourboire sur une facture de 45-50 $... Ici, les gens que je connais donne au moins 3-5 $ de pourboire quand la facture s'élève a 50$... Oui au Québec certains sont gratteux, oui certains sont homophobes, racistes et toutes sortes de méchancetés gratuites, oui certain sont épais comme Elvis Gratton mais très peu... Mais dit toi que dans tout le monde il y a ce type de personne... D'ailleurs il faut toute sorte de monde pour faire un monde, hien?

Bon sur ce, aujourd'hui c'est la Fête du Canada, j'aime juste le congé qui vient avec le reste je m'en fou... VIVE LE QUÉBEC!

 

[Machjo]

RE: Quebec %^$@&$

Oh yes, I forgot, yesterday was Canada Day.

?

Wait a minute, it's still only 10:35pm, 1 July in Canada. Sorry, Today is Canada Day, at least in Ottawa anyway. Right now is the morning of the second in China!

Anyway, Happy Canada Day!

 

[Machjo]

RE: Quebec %^$@&$

Or Vive le Quebec!

Either way, just be happy y'all!

 

[Reivilo]

Re: Quebec %^$@&$

Québécois don't really celebrate Canada Day... They'd rather celebrate Québec Day

 

[Machjo]

Re: Quebec %^$@&$

Québécois don't really celebrate Canada Day... They'd rather celebrate Québec Day

Happy Canada Day, St. Baptiste Day, or whatever it is you want to celebrate.
How about Happy Quenada Day?

Nah, I didn't think so; I think it's a terrible sounding name myself.

 

[no1important]

RE: Quebec %^$@&$

Quebec is still apart of Canada last time I looked so there National day is July 1. There provincial day was St. Baptiste Day. Quebec is not a nation yet.

 

[s_lone]

Re: RE: Quebec %^$@&$

Quebec is still apart of Canada last time I looked so there National day is July 1. There provincial day was St. Baptiste Day. Quebec is not a nation yet.

:x Quebec not a nation eh? Here are the first two definitions of the word "nation" from my english dictionnary (Webster's New World Dictionnary":

1. A stable, historically developped community of people with a territory, economic life, distinctive culture and language in common.

Stable? Quebec is certainly more stable than nations like Israel.

Historically developped community of people with a territory? Quebec city is the oldest city of America (of European origin of course...) so no one can say we are not historically developped. And a province is a territory.

Economic life? Of course we have an economic life.

Distinctive culture and language in common? Do I really need to talk about that? (On that particular point, Quebec is a lot more distinctive than the rest of Canada whose culture is a lot more similar to the American one.)

What about the second definition?


2. The people of a territory united under a single government; country; state.

It seems that most rest-of-Canadians prefer to remember only the second definition. Selective memory is what they call it.

How do we call those people who were there before us? hmm... oh yeah! First nations! As far as I know they don't have an official state, country or government and you don't mind calling them nations...

The fact is that Quebec can be called a nation and it's in our full right to call St-John-the-Baptist's our "fête nationale."

It seems that according to Canada, Quebec is not a nation. The motion has never passed at government. Well I would just LOVE to see Paul Martin officially announce on live TV on the 24th of june that Quebec is not a nation and that they shouldn't call it their national day. Support for sovereignty would probably gain a solid ten point in a flash.

 

[s_lone]

Re: Quebec %^$@&$

Just for fun, why don't we check out the word "confederation"...

1. a uniting or being united in a league or alliance.

So far so good...

2. nations or states joined in a league or union for a special purpose that is not merely temporary

Well I'll be damned! Am I dreaming or is the word nation part of that definition?

It seems that Quebec could even actually be a state/country and still be part of a Canadian confederation. Of course, rest-of-Canadians wouldn't accept that eh?

 

[Nascar_James]

Re: Quebec %^$@&$

You guys will never learn. There is no way Quebec would ever seperate from Canada. So many complex issues would arise, like the partitioning of the west section of Montreal (particularly the West Island). The US would also have a say in this issue. Besides the instability it would create in North America, the US would obviously be concerned that a large wave of English speakers in Quebec would immigrate to the US, causing mass confusion and instability.

Not to mention the great risk of civil war, particularly in Montreal. You have the East End which is predominantly French, then you have the West Island which is overwhelmingly English. A lot of the folks in the West Island will not want to sell their homes and cave in to the separatists, so they will force the issue and partition themselves from Quebec. When you factor in all possible scenarios and/or outcomes of this situation, "Belfast Revisited" is one unfortunate outcome which keeps coming up. There is no way around it.

 

[s_lone]

You guys will never learn. There is no way Quebec would ever seperate from Canada. So many complex issues would arise, like the partitioning of the west section of Montreal (particularly the West Island). The US would also have a say in this issue. Besides the instability it would create in North America, the US would obviously be concerned that a large wave of English speakers in Quebec would immigrate to the US, causing mass confusion and instability.

Not to mention the great risk of civil war, particularly in Montreal. You have the East End which is predominantly French, then you have the West Island which is overwhelmingly English. A lot of the folks in the West Island will not want to sell their homes and cave in to the separatists, so they will force the issue and partition themselves from Quebec. When you factor in all possible scenarios and/or outcomes of this situation, "Belfast Revisited" is one unfortunate outcome which keeps coming up. There is no way around it.

I think you largely overestimate the chances for violence to rise.

Please tell me what you fear a new independant Quebec's government would do to scare all the Anglos like that. Seriously, Quebecers, (Francos and Anglos) are peaceful people and unless their is a serious shift of global mentality, I really don't see why Montreal would suddenly become chaotic and violent. There would be no reason for Anglos to suddenly sell their houses and "cave in" to the seperatists. Montreal is a bilingual city and most people seem to have no problem with that. It will be in Quebec's interest to respect it's English speaking population. You might think that Quebec is actually not respecting it's Anglophone population but if that is the case, why aren't the Anglos already moving out?

As for the US, there isn't much they could do to stop Quebec from becoming a country if all is done democratically. Believe me, if the US officially try to stop us from seperate, Quebecers will only become even more fiercely independant.

In my opinion, the only thing that could cause a rise of violence in a post-seperation Quebec would be if democracy is seriously disrespected. Please tell me how you think that could happen.

 

[Jo Canadian]

RE: Quebec %^$@&$

The Quebecers that are French or English may not squabble too much. But I'm for thinking if Quebec does separate, the Natives will decide to do the same for northern Quebec, since if it could work for the french it should work for them too.

 

[Numure]

Re: RE: Quebec %^$@&$

The Quebecers that are French or English may not squabble too much. But I'm for thinking if Quebec does separate, the Natives will decide to do the same for northern Quebec, since if it could work for the french it should work for them too.

Indeed. But, once a referendum has passed, the provincial government would have a mandate to negotiate directly with them. As it is now, the Québec government, or any provincial government has no cannot negotiate with any native nations without Federal approval. Chances are, we will strike a deal with them. Besides, their territory doesnt span out that long. And not much is to gain from it.

Hydro-Québec already has long term contracts signed with them for the dams we have there. If we do seperate, does contracts are still valid.

 

[Student Standard]

Hey my only problem with the whole thing is that If we lose Quebec we wont be the biggest country.And the whole thing is stupid but hey its allowed. This is the only country where you can voice seperatism and not be hung (You know what I mean) for treason.

 

[Haggis McBagpipe]

Student Standard, I've deleted a couple of your duplicate posts. When you click submit, just click once. If it doesn't seem to have gone through, open another browser window and see if it did or not. Thanks!

 

[Micksandy]

I have lived in Quebec for four years now....the idiots that live here.....take it in the butt constantly by the government and do nothing about it. Highest taxes....worst roads...worst healthcare....laziest people in the world....

I am moving to T.O. which I don't necessarily like but to make a life here is impossible. I moved from Nova Scotia to Montreal because I remembered visiting here some time ago and enjoyed it. The culture....the old buildings...the fun lifestyle.

Word to the wise.....if you like a place....don't move there.

I despise quebec now....whiners that have nothing to do other than protest everyday and the cops partition the streets and block the streets for hours (only time you can find a cop) so people can't get home in the traffic so a bunch of students can protest their tuition. Try being from another country where those out of country students are paying 10 times as much to take the same courses and never bitch about it. Happy to just have an education. Never enough. The habs are the only NHL team to have to pay to play. They have to pay the Bell Centre annually...huge amounts of money...to play there. The Olympic Stadium committe and the city of Montreal passed down an architect from the U.S. to build the stadium in order to give it to a frenchman in Quebec and was an architectural nightmare. It was just finished being paid off and will be torn down soon. Contractors that are normally hired through the Quebec usual practice of nepotism.....are screwing the system (example....building a metro....many are paid by the truckload of dirt that they are leaving the site with in order to dump....they are coming in and out of the site with the same truckload and multiplying their $$...btw...that is from a friend that works on the site that says it is common practice).
Healthcare.....hospitals, save two, are ratty and covered in dust, cracks in the plaster....etc. My girlfriend was diagnosed with MS and had to spend a week laying on a gurney in a high traffic area hallway of the hospital with people puking and coughing all around her....and a kid with cancer laying on a gurney across from her....poor kid had to spend some precious days laying in a hallway.

So, anyone that says that Quebec is charming is full of crap.....it is "quaint stupidity". This place is one of the last places to do business in all of North America because businesses hire based on knowing french rather than skill or education. You can have a master's degree and be passed up by some redneck that only speaks french with little education.

Prince Edward Island (a fact) spends more money on their police and crime control than all of quebec. Little tiny P.E.I. Also, Quebec could never separate because they would have no government to whine to on behalf of Quebec and they half no stability or natural resources or energized workforces to support it. Every major company that has satellite offices here....would pack up and leave. Besides....we would allow them to separate and then forcefully take them over later....lol...or at least I wish.

Anyone that wants to praise Quebec.....either has never spent any real time here or has spend every moment here and doesnt know any better.

 

[aeon]

Quebec Sucks ass! let them leave canada you will be better off.. when i visited quebec from australia last, they made fun of me because I couldnt speak some words properly, they are arrogant, smelly good for nothing whiners, and canada would be better without them!

A lot of people have experienced what you talk about, but it is good that you made the effort, i know they can be pretty snobish with their francais from time to time, but ah well...

:canada: :quebec: :canada:


Canada is a bylingual country, period.

 

[aeon]

I have lived in Quebec for four years now....the idiots that live here.....take it in the butt constantly by the government and do nothing about it. Highest taxes....worst roads...worst healthcare....laziest people in the world....

I am moving to T.O. which I don't necessarily like but to make a life here is impossible. I moved from Nova Scotia to Montreal because I remembered visiting here some time ago and enjoyed it. The culture....the old buildings...the fun lifestyle.

Word to the wise.....if you like a place....don't move there.

I despise quebec now....whiners that have nothing to do other than protest everyday and the cops partition the streets and block the streets for hours (only time you can find a cop) so people can't get home in the traffic so a bunch of students can protest their tuition. Try being from another country where those out of country students are paying 10 times as much to take the same courses and never bitch about it. Happy to just have an education. Never enough. The habs are the only NHL team to have to pay to play. They have to pay the Bell Centre annually...huge amounts of money...to play there. The Olympic Stadium committe and the city of Montreal passed down an architect from the U.S. to build the stadium in order to give it to a frenchman in Quebec and was an architectural nightmare. It was just finished being paid off and will be torn down soon. Contractors that are normally hired through the Quebec usual practice of nepotism.....are screwing the system (example....building a metro....many are paid by the truckload of dirt that they are leaving the site with in order to dump....they are coming in and out of the site with the same truckload and multiplying their $$...btw...that is from a friend that works on the site that says it is common practice).
Healthcare.....hospitals, save two, are ratty and covered in dust, cracks in the plaster....etc. My girlfriend was diagnosed with MS and had to spend a week laying on a gurney in a high traffic area hallway of the hospital with people puking and coughing all around her....and a kid with cancer laying on a gurney across from her....poor kid had to spend some precious days laying in a hallway.

So, anyone that says that Quebec is charming is full of crap.....it is "quaint stupidity". This place is one of the last places to do business in all of North America because businesses hire based on knowing french rather than skill or education. You can have a master's degree and be passed up by some redneck that only speaks french with little education.

Prince Edward Island (a fact) spends more money on their police and crime control than all of quebec. Little tiny P.E.I.

Anyone that wants to praise Quebec.....either has never spent any real time here or has spend every moment here and doesnt know any better.

I live in quebec/montreal, and i can tell you it is the best place, i ever seen in the world, why?? because it is the only place, where people speaks english and french, mix with multicultural, just like toronto is( smaller yes).


Worst road, yes, higher taxes, yes, but to live in quebec, it cost you about half of the money than the rest of canada,schools are cheaper, rent are cheaper than most of canada, lazy, my ass, this is an opinion based on nothing at all.

What the hell you guys have to say about those who protest?? why english peoples has problem with that?? protesting is a basic right in democracy .