Putin Nomintaed for Nobel Peace Prize
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Not my fault if you don't know that those systems have hardware that operates at distances longer than 'short range'.
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When are you going to do it on this thread, so far you are all entrance and ..... well tame would be a wild exaggeration to be truthful.
Saying God is not real 50 times in a row is not pointing out a hole.
LMAO...
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The US or Israel of NATO have never attacked anybody with modern anti-aircraft defenses. That is the reason Syria or Iran will never be attacked with aircraft. The next option is to usr the Patriot batteries and Israel's equivalent to send in offensive missiles. Should they take out some of those sites to stop the attacks?
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHz
The US or Israel of NATO have never attacked anybody with modern anti-aircraft defenses. That is the reason Syria or Iran will never be attacked with aircraft. The next option is to usr the Patriot batteries and Israel's equivalent to send in offensive missiles. Should they take out some of those sites to stop the attacks?
Good Grief.. some the jokers that ended up with the Nobel Peace Prize... Obama.. Al Gore.. Henry Kissinger (the scourge of Latin American democracies.. with his championing of juntas the their death squads.) the thing is a bit of a joke.
But basicly the entire Nobel establishment is infused with New Age political and aesthetic agendas.. like AGW.. superstrings and other mystical Cosmology (completely removed from the emprical scientific method).. politically correct literature... which inevitably produces bad, boring books... and in Economics the cascading collapse of Free Trade, monetarism and free market ideology. Peace, physics, economics and literature are the worst offenders.. but the whole structure is corrupt.
So i say give it to this former KGB apparatchnik.. he's as deserving as Obama or Gore or Kissinger were... birds of a feather.. flock together.
But basicly the entire Nobel establishment is infused with New Age political and aesthetic agendas.. like AGW.. superstrings and other mystical Cosmology (completely removed from the emprical scientific method).. politically correct literature... which inevitably produces bad, boring books... and in Economics the cascading collapse of Free Trade, monetarism and free market ideology. Peace, physics, economics and literature are the worst offenders.. but the whole structure is corrupt.
So i say give it to this former KGB apparatchnik.. he's as deserving as Obama or Gore or Kissinger were... birds of a feather.. flock together.
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The term 'former' could apply in this case and I doubt he would want to be associated with some of the past members. Putin would understand that torture doesn't work, Obama is relying on what people like D. Cheney tells others. That under the same conditions they would talk so anybody else would also give it all up when faced with the same thing.
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As if things are "in control" in Syria now. One quasi good move does not make up for Chechnya, Georgia or selling arms to totalitarian governments.
I thought Bahrain and Saudi Arabia and such got their tanks from the US, tanks that seem to be used against the citizens rather than any foreign Nation. I'm sure you can see that people would not want any 'help' if freedom was anyplace on the list.
Ever hear of the 'school of Americas' and the death squads they insisted be part of 'democracy' US version'?
Ever hear of the 'school of Americas' and the death squads they insisted be part of 'democracy' US version'?
Obama hadnt done anything good or bad when he got his. He was barely into the white house when they gave it to him. If they were to give it to him now, then yeah it'd be comparable but not at that time.
Told you before. I quit debating you because you are a waste of time. And that's because your interpretations are incredible, illogical, incoherent, and inconsistent and you keep ignoring facts. That comment illuminates my reasons for debating you any longer. Thanks.
Shouldn't you have some sort of knot in there.
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If that jerk Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize there is no reason that a charmer like Vladimir Putin shouldn't get the same award.
The sophistication of our own soft fuzzy form of totalitarianism escapes you I bet. The west sells arms to Israel and Saudi Arabia in addition to a list of other cutthroats too numerous to list. You're your point is without one.
Notice how he has an (all male) choir follow him around? That isn't much when you compare the detain that Obama has, let alone talking on the street. I doubt this was pre-scripted.
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Has Russia’s Vladimir Putin pulled Barack Obama’s chestnuts out of the fire for a second time?
Will the shaky cease-fire in Ukraine that began this weekend hold up and end a conflict that was threatening a nuclear war between the United States and Russia?
The answer to the first question is yes. Remember back in 2013 when the Obama White House was threatening to attack Syria over allegations it was using poison gas?
As it turned out, the UN found it was the US-backed Syrian rebels who were likely to have used chemical weapons rather than the Damascus regime.
Noble Peace Prize Winner Obama and his lady strategists almost got the US into a war in Syria that could have led to direct clashes with Russia, which was backing the Damascus government.
Along came that unlikely man of peace, Russia’s Vlad Putin, who charted a diplomatic course out of the Syria mess for the bumbling White House which had talked itself into corner.
Now, it seems the much-reviled Russian leader is doing it again. The cease-fire agreement forged in Minsk late last week may end or at least de-escalate the conflict in eastern Ukraine that was drawing the US and Russia into a direct confrontation. Whether the cease-fire/truce holds up is uncertain but the absolute necessity of a negotiated settlement over the Ukraine crisis could not be more clear. Nuclear-armed powers must never, ever clash militarily.
President Putin proposed the solution over a year ago: autonomy in a federal state and the right to speak Russian for eastern Ukraine. Most important, Ukraine would never join NATO. Doing so would have put Russia’s vital naval base at Sevastopol under NATO control – as unthinkable for Moscow as for the US to see Norfolk, Virginia or Houston under Russian or Chinese control.
Ukraine’s fierce nationalists and their US backers rejected Putin’s plan and set about trying to impose Kiev’s total control by military force.
It’s ironic that the US has given total support to Kiev’s war against what it calls “rebels” and “terrorists” while arming and financing Syria’s Sunni rebels whom Damascus brands “rebels” and “terrorists.”
A peace deal comes not an hour too soon. A full battalion of US Army troops is scheduled to arrive in western Ukraine to “train” government troops and lead them into battle. This hare-brained scheme has a potential clash with Russia written all over it.
Imagine if Russian troops arrived outside Montreal to train Canadian forces. The US has no strategic interests in Ukraine, which was part of the Soviet Union/Russia until 1991. The whole crazy scheme was promoted by neocons as a way of undermining Russia and putting Ukraine into their ideological orbit.
Ukraine, like the whole Charlie Hebdo circus, has been very useful politically. Canada’s rightist prime minister, Stephen Harper, shamelessly pandered to voters of Ukrainian background (there are over one million in Canada) by making all sorts of warlike threats against Moscow even though militarily feeble Canada would be hard-pressed to hold its own against Luxembourg. Pure political theater.
Putin’s goal is clearly not to annex Ukraine to Russia – at least not now. He simply wants to ensure that Ukraine does not become a NATO dagger pointed at the heart of Russia or the Black Sea. Ukraine has been a bankrupt failed state since 1991 run by incompetent politicians, gangsters and oligarchs.
The US-directed International Monetary Fund is now preparing an emergency $17.5 billion loan just to keep Ukraine afloat. Another $40 billion is seen as urgent in the near future. Kiev just managed to pay off half its $2.2 billion gas debt to Moscow, likely with US aid. But the winter will be long and cold.
Russia’s economy is staggering under rock-bottom oil prices and the US-led trade embargo. The last thing Moscow needs is to have to finance bankrupt Ukraine. Interestingly, western Europe appears to be suffering more pain from the US-led trade sanctions and is clamoring for them to be lifted.
Putin has gotten Crimea back and Ukraine is in confusion. Most important, the march to war in Ukraine between nuclear-armed Russia and the US has been averted. Match to Putin.
PUTIN HEADS OFF A US-RUSSIA WAR « Eric Margolis
Will the shaky cease-fire in Ukraine that began this weekend hold up and end a conflict that was threatening a nuclear war between the United States and Russia?
The answer to the first question is yes. Remember back in 2013 when the Obama White House was threatening to attack Syria over allegations it was using poison gas?
As it turned out, the UN found it was the US-backed Syrian rebels who were likely to have used chemical weapons rather than the Damascus regime.
Noble Peace Prize Winner Obama and his lady strategists almost got the US into a war in Syria that could have led to direct clashes with Russia, which was backing the Damascus government.
Along came that unlikely man of peace, Russia’s Vlad Putin, who charted a diplomatic course out of the Syria mess for the bumbling White House which had talked itself into corner.
Now, it seems the much-reviled Russian leader is doing it again. The cease-fire agreement forged in Minsk late last week may end or at least de-escalate the conflict in eastern Ukraine that was drawing the US and Russia into a direct confrontation. Whether the cease-fire/truce holds up is uncertain but the absolute necessity of a negotiated settlement over the Ukraine crisis could not be more clear. Nuclear-armed powers must never, ever clash militarily.
President Putin proposed the solution over a year ago: autonomy in a federal state and the right to speak Russian for eastern Ukraine. Most important, Ukraine would never join NATO. Doing so would have put Russia’s vital naval base at Sevastopol under NATO control – as unthinkable for Moscow as for the US to see Norfolk, Virginia or Houston under Russian or Chinese control.
Ukraine’s fierce nationalists and their US backers rejected Putin’s plan and set about trying to impose Kiev’s total control by military force.
It’s ironic that the US has given total support to Kiev’s war against what it calls “rebels” and “terrorists” while arming and financing Syria’s Sunni rebels whom Damascus brands “rebels” and “terrorists.”
A peace deal comes not an hour too soon. A full battalion of US Army troops is scheduled to arrive in western Ukraine to “train” government troops and lead them into battle. This hare-brained scheme has a potential clash with Russia written all over it.
Imagine if Russian troops arrived outside Montreal to train Canadian forces. The US has no strategic interests in Ukraine, which was part of the Soviet Union/Russia until 1991. The whole crazy scheme was promoted by neocons as a way of undermining Russia and putting Ukraine into their ideological orbit.
Ukraine, like the whole Charlie Hebdo circus, has been very useful politically. Canada’s rightist prime minister, Stephen Harper, shamelessly pandered to voters of Ukrainian background (there are over one million in Canada) by making all sorts of warlike threats against Moscow even though militarily feeble Canada would be hard-pressed to hold its own against Luxembourg. Pure political theater.
Putin’s goal is clearly not to annex Ukraine to Russia – at least not now. He simply wants to ensure that Ukraine does not become a NATO dagger pointed at the heart of Russia or the Black Sea. Ukraine has been a bankrupt failed state since 1991 run by incompetent politicians, gangsters and oligarchs.
The US-directed International Monetary Fund is now preparing an emergency $17.5 billion loan just to keep Ukraine afloat. Another $40 billion is seen as urgent in the near future. Kiev just managed to pay off half its $2.2 billion gas debt to Moscow, likely with US aid. But the winter will be long and cold.
Russia’s economy is staggering under rock-bottom oil prices and the US-led trade embargo. The last thing Moscow needs is to have to finance bankrupt Ukraine. Interestingly, western Europe appears to be suffering more pain from the US-led trade sanctions and is clamoring for them to be lifted.
Putin has gotten Crimea back and Ukraine is in confusion. Most important, the march to war in Ukraine between nuclear-armed Russia and the US has been averted. Match to Putin.
PUTIN HEADS OFF A US-RUSSIA WAR « Eric Margolis
