Proof That a Price on Carbon Works

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Yes, 7 years, 349 days, 8 hours, 46 minutes and 30 seconds to be exact.

Give or take a few hours depending on the province.
 

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The bounty in B.C.: Canada’s economic engine shifts west - The Globe and Mail

Vancouver’s thriving port is symbolic of B.C.’s robust economy, which some expect to outpace all other Canadian provinces this year and next. And as the outlook has darkened across Canada – notably in neighbouring Alberta, where plunging oil prices have slowed the once-churning economy and layoffs continue to ripple – B.C.’s ongoing success looks all the more remarkable. Businesses here have benefited from, and are seizing on, a confluence of positive factors ranging from a diverse work force and specialized skill sets, to policy-makers.
 

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The bounty in B.C.: Canada’s economic engine shifts west - The Globe and Mail

Vancouver’s thriving port is symbolic of B.C.’s robust economy, which some expect to outpace all other Canadian provinces this year and next. And as the outlook has darkened across Canada – notably in neighbouring Alberta, where plunging oil prices have slowed the once-churning economy and layoffs continue to ripple – B.C.’s ongoing success looks all the more remarkable. Businesses here have benefited from, and are seizing on, a confluence of positive factors ranging from a diverse work force and specialized skill sets, to policy-makers.
Big surprise, a pacific sea port is thriving, derp. Does it matter that oceanic shipping creates more GHG's than all vehicular transport world wide?

When you're post mentions positive factors to policy, is that like the massive concessions made to the NG sector to accommodate their emissions?

And of course, not of that has anything to do with what you're trying to deflect attention from. BC failed carbon tax.
 

gerryh

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C02 from passenger vehicle use went up, but that was offset by reduced emissions from lower extraction.

It makes sense because the source of the problem is the producer, not the consumer.



Again, show me the numbers. Show that the increase in co2 from consumers has been offset by a reduction in co2 from producers.
 

mentalfloss

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Big surprise, a pacific sea port is thriving, derp. Does it matter that oceanic shipping creates more GHG's than all vehicular transport world wide?

When you're post mentions positive factors to policy, is that like the massive concessions made to the NG sector to accommodate their emissions?

And of course, not of that has anything to do with what you're trying to deflect attention from. BC failed carbon tax.


And yet it is widely acknowledged that their economy and the carbon tax is a success.
 

CDNBear

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And yet it is widely acknowledged that their ... carbon tax is a success.
I can understand why you'd employ deceit to save face. What with your fragile ego and all.

Your opinion holds no weight, you're a proven liar.

Again, show me the numbers. Show that the increase in co2 from consumers has been offset by a reduction in co2 from producers.
I wonder why he ignored you, and chose to be deceitful and dishonest instead.
 

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mentalfloss

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It shows that a significant reduction in fossil fuels extraction also reduced carbon emissions.

Go figure.
 

gerryh

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Page 18 shows the bulk of emissions reductions are from oil and gas extraction.

Page 20 shows the increase in emissions from transport.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/en...ntory-report-bcs-pir/pir-2012-full-report.pdf


The report is very clear about funded initiatives like carbon sequestration and forestation.


and the reduction in extraction is because of the tax? Or is it because of the price of oil right now? What happens when oil heads back up north of $50 a barrel?
 

mentalfloss

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and the reduction in extraction is because of the tax? Or is it because of the price of oil right now? What happens when oil heads back up north of $50 a barrel?

Companies that reduce emissions (regardless of market forces) pay less tax to begin with, because their emissions are taxed.

The lesson here is that the producers have far more agency over emissions than consumers, and there is a much bigger incentive for business for them to reduce emissions and save on the tax.
 

Durry

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