Proof That a Price on Carbon Works

[CDNBear]

Yet two thirds of tax revenue going to corporate income tax cuts means nothing to you.

I can understand why you'd employ deceit to save face. What with your fragile ego and all.

Your opinion holds no weight, you're a proven liar.

 

[mentalfloss]

Your cherry picking blew back in your face there?

What a dang shame.

 

[gerryh]

Companies that reduce emissions (regardless of market forces) pay less tax to begin with, because their emissions are taxed.

The lesson here is that the producers have far more agency over emissions than consumers, and there is a much bigger incentive for business for them to reduce emissions and save on the tax.

You didn't answer a single question I posed. Well, if nothing else, you are consistent.

 

[mentalfloss]

Companies save on tax when they reduce emissions and much of the tax revenue from the carbon tax is offset by a reduction in corporate taxes.

This gives them an incentive to stay and reduce their emissions.

 

[Dixie Cup]

You're confusing Hong Kong with central China. You're also confusing per capita vs. total output.

Considering Hong Kong's population and Shenzhen's population right next to it, the two cities combined reaching near Canada's total population, Hong Kong's air was remarkably pleasant. Not as clean as Canada's, but if Hong Kong polluted like Canada does on a per capita basis, Hong Kong would be worse than Beijing!

Hong Kong's air was clean enough that I could enjoy it. I'm sure the following played a role in making the air so pleasant in Hong Kong:

1. A high carbon tax.

2. No transit subsidies. All funding of public transit is supported by commuter fares.

3. More user-pay transit fares. A subway ticket between two neighboring stations is less expensive than between distant stations, and bus fares vary depending on distance covered too. Many buses are like taxis with no stop in between, all on board going to the same location.

Transit passes do exist, but you have to scan it when you enter and again when you exit. To enter, you must have enough money on the card to cover the most expensive possible fare.

Canada can certainly learn from Hong Kong's user-pay system.

And what type of salary would one command to be able to live there comfortably? The cost of living is very high there.

BC's had a carbon tax for about...8 years now?

Huh.

So has Alberta - on the oil companies, which means of course that we all paid in one way or another.


In fact, Alberta was one of the first provinces to have a carbon tax! The Dippers want to increase it though - need the money. Go figure!


JMHO

 

[mentalfloss]

And what type of salary would one command to be able to live there comfortably? The cost of living is very high there.
JMHO

Good enough for 7 million people to choose to live there.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Good enough for 7 million people to choose to live there.

....or not to have decided to leave yet.

 

[CDNBear]

Your cherry picking blew back in your face there?

What a dang shame.

I can understand why you'd employ deceit to save face. What with your fragile ego and all.

Your opinion holds no weight, you're a proven liar.

 

[mentalfloss]

Yeesh, knew you'd have given up but good lord this is getting awkward.

 

[CDNBear]

Yeesh, knew you'd have given up but good lord this is getting awkward.

I predicted this two pages ago.

 

[mentalfloss]

....or not to have decided to leave yet.

Either way the cost of living would be considered reasonable if so many people are willing to continue contributing.

This idea that life should always come cheap is naive when it's actually about values and what people will go through to support those values.

 

[CDNBear]

This idea that life should always come cheap is naive when it's actually about values and what people will go through to support those values.

It's easy for you to say that while collecting ODSP and being supported by your family.

There are countless people out there that struggle to make ends meet. Who have to decide whether to pay the hydro bill or their rent or buy food.

I know that doesn't matter to someone like you, but it is still a reality.

 

[Jinentonix]

It shows that a significant reduction in fossil fuels extraction also reduced carbon emissions.

Go figure.

No it didn't. It just shifted the burden elsewhere. Go figure you wouldn't comprehend that though.

 

[mentalfloss]

No it didn't. It just shifted the burden elsewhere. Go figure you wouldn't comprehend that though.

Carbon reductions are occurring in the most prosperous province in the country.

 

[Walter]

Carbon reductions are occurring in the most prosperous province in the country.

Nova Scotia? Good for them.

 

[petros]

40,000 more vehicles on BC roads since 2010 but....

 

[mentalfloss]

Nova Scotia? Good for them.

British Columbia

 

[petros]

And yet it is widely acknowledged that their economy and the carbon tax is a success.

What is the economy? Billions upon billions upon billions of investment in the Asia Pacific Gateway that I must say producered some very nice, long overdue infrastructure to get prairie goods to the ports. Still a long way to go so expect the BC construction economy to stay good for a few more years. Check it out, VIA will sell you a gimp ticket at 50% off.

 

[mentalfloss]

Washington Lawmakers Consider Putting A Price On Carbon . News | OPB

 

[CDNBear]

Hopefully they do better than BC, who failed.