Prince Harry spends 24 hours in freezer to prepare for polar trek with injured troops

karrie

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I'm asking you to back up your bizarre theory that Harry is taking money out of the pockets of injured veterans. The money for the trek sure isn't from them.

Harry is GIVING money to injured vets. The charity walk is for them.

He's giving them a small portion of what people are donating to them. He's spending the rest on a trip.
 

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He's giving them a small portion of what people are donating to them. He's spending the rest on a trip.


He's not spending anything on the trip. Virgin Money is sponsoring it - Walking With The Wounded – South Pole 2013

Here's bald, Manc twonk Karl Pilkington's views on charity, from the comedy series The Ricky Gervais Show, which is the podcasts of Karl, Ricky and Steve, in which they had a series of pointless but hilarious conversations, brought to life in animated form on the TV.....

Karl Pilkington - Helping the hungry - YouTube
 

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There's nothing in that article which says that Llewelyn was the last true Prince of Wales.

Llewelyn ap Gruffydd was the last prince of an independent Wales before its conquest by Edward I.

It doesn't mean he was the last TRUE one though. The current Prince of Wales is the true Prince of Wales.

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Give the money to the vets. All of it. Is Virgin unwilling to just donate directly? Why spend so much of it on a pointless trip? This is what's wrong with modern 'fundraising'.

Virgin is sponsoring the trip.

All the money going to the vets is that raised by the trip, with donations by all sorts of people. That's what charity events are all about. It's like doing a sponsored swim or sitting in a bath of baked beans for charity.
 

karrie

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Virgin is sponsoring the trip.

All the money going to the vets is that raised by the trip, with donations by all sorts of people. That's what charity events are all about. It's like doing a sponsored swim or sitting in a bath of baked beans for charity.

No, it's not. It's much costlier. Logic should start limiting this nonsense.

Buying chocolates instead of just giving the charity your money, is the tip of 'wasteful donating'. This is the extreme of it. It's the height of arrogance and apathy that we demand we be entertained in return for our charity dollars. It's bad enough that relatively cheap walks and runs have become the norm, this here takes it to a ridiculous, costly, extreme.

JUST DONATE.
 

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No, it's not. It's much costlier. Logic should start limiting this nonsense.

Buying chocolates instead of just giving the charity your money, is the tip of 'wasteful donating'. This is the extreme of it. It's the height of arrogance and apathy that we demand we be entertained in return for our charity dollars. It's bad enough that relatively cheap walks and runs have become the norm, this here takes it to a ridiculous, costly, extreme.

JUST DONATE.

Things like this ENCOURAGE people to donate to charity. That's what they for. Someone who's not given money to charity for years may suddenly donate a few quid when they see something fun being done.

And that's not the only reason why this trek is being organised (a trek also involving American, Australian and Canadian injured service personnel). Here is what it says on the Walking With The Wounded website:

3 teams, 335km, 16 days, -35C, constant winds, life changing injuries. This is not your average race!

Three teams of wounded servicemen and women are embarking upon on one of the most high profile expeditions of modern times, racing across 3° to the Geographic South Pole. Wounded from the UK, the US and the Commonwealth (Australia and Canada) will embark on this grueling challenge

Why? To show the world the extraordinary courage and determination of the men and women who have been wounded while serving our countries, and to remind us all of the help and support we owe them.



Walking With The Wounded – South Pole 2013
 

karrie

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Things like this ENCOURAGE people to donate to charity. That's what they for. Someone who's not given money to charity for years may suddenly donate a few quid when they see something fun being done.

And that's not the only reason why this trek is being organised (a trek also involving American, Australian and Canadian injured service personnel).

Is that what's got you so in a knot that I think it's stupid? You think the only reason I dislike it is it's British? I don't care who's involved, I'm fed up to my gills with these sorts of 'fundraisers'.
 

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Is that what's got you so in a knot that I think it's stupid? You think the only reason I dislike it is it's British? I don't care who's involved, I'm fed up to my gills with these sorts of 'fundraisers'.

Fundraisers encourage people to give to charity. Surely that's a good thing.
 

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I'd encourage people to take a good long hard look at what they're donating to, why, and where their money will go. Think critically.
 

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I'd encourage people to take a good long hard look at what they're donating to, why, and where their money will go. Think critically.

Why? Are you saying Walking With The Wounded may be corrupt and the money may not go where it's supposed to?

I like giving money to armed forces charities.

Despite the fact that Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered back in May by Islamists in Woolwich whilst wearing a Help for Heroes sweatshirt, I was in Sainsbury's supermarket the other day and there was a Help for Heroes charity stall. It was selling stuff for the charity, like t-shirts, mugs, wristbands and badges. Some of them had an actual price and some you buy by making a donation of your choice. I donated £2 for a Help for Heroes wristband and metal pin badge, which I wear with pride to show it's a charity I support. The Islamists haven't put me off. I have no doubt at all that all the money will go to the service personnel who need it.

This is a Help for Heroes wristband exactly like the one I wear:



Here's Camilla wearing one:



Former England cricket captain Andrew Strauss:



And former England football captain David Beckham:

 

karrie

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Why? Are you saying Walking With The Wounded may be corrupt and the money may not go where it's supposed to?

No, I'm saying money is being wasted on rubber bands and trips and other nonsense, instead of going where it's needed.
 

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There's nothing in that article which says that Llewelyn was the last true Prince of Wales.

Llewelyn ap Gruffydd was the last prince of an independent Wales before its conquest by Edward I.

It doesn't mean he was the last TRUE one though. The current Prince of Wales is the true Prince of Wales.
Is Charley a Welshman? No. He is not a true Prince of Wales. He is a British substitute. They stole the title from the Welsh.
 

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Have I told you what Nakusp means? Story I get from the Sinixt elders is that when they brought the rail and paddlewheelers to this country, there were two Sinixt villages here. The men in charge of the rail and ships told the Sinixt that was to be a white village only and that they had to vacate the premisses. As they were marching the Sinixt off at gun point, the man in charge of the eviction asked the chief if they had an indian princess they could name the town after. The chief looked at him with contempt and said Nakusp and walked away. In interior Salish, Nakusp means the inedible part of the deer (sphincter). The brochures say bay of quiet waters.

PS: there are several stories how this name came about, but this one involved an indian princess. The meaning of Sinixt is always the same in every story.
Cute. Kinda like my board handle. I chose it because London, Ontario (which is in Canada. Bet you didn't know that) is the site of Tecumseh's bones.

Problem is there's at least three "official" sets of Tecumseh's bones, and one of 'em ain't even human bones. Seems the Shawnees had quite a cottage industry for a hundred years or so selling Tecumseh's bones.
 

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This makes as much sense as putting on a pink T-shirt and walking circles in a park.
Blind leading the blind. What percentage of cancer dollars donated actually go toward cancer research or helping victims? 10%, 20%? People are so gullible.

Cute. Kinda like my board handle. I chose it because London, Ontario (which is in Canada. Bet you didn't know that) is the site of Tecumseh's bones.
Yes I did. My parents and sister lived in London, Ont. for years. I went there for my father's funeral.

PS: there are several stories how this name came about, but this one involved an indian princess. The meaning of Sinixt is always the same in every story.
Sorry. Made a mistake. I meant Nakusp not Sinixt in that sentence. Sinixt means People of the Bull Trout.
 

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Why? Are you saying Walking With The Wounded may be corrupt and the money may not go where it's supposed to?

I like giving money to armed forces charities.

Despite the fact that Drummer Lee Rigby was murdered back in May by Islamists in Woolwich whilst wearing a Help for Heroes sweatshirt, I was in Sainsbury's supermarket the other day and there was a Help for Heroes charity stall. It was selling stuff for the charity, like t-shirts, mugs, wristbands and badges. Some of them had an actual price and some you buy by making a donation of your choice. I donated £2 for a Help for Heroes wristband and metal pin badge, which I wear with pride to show it's a charity I support. The Islamists haven't put me off. I have no doubt at all that all the money will go to the service personnel who need it.

This is a Help for Heroes wristband exactly like the one I wear:

Here's what I wore to show my support for our "heroes:"





Here's what EagleSmack wore:





Other folk here wore other hats of the same general type.


But you're the real patriot. You wear a Lance Armstrong knockoff wrist condom.
 

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Is Charley a Welshman? No. He is not a true Prince of Wales. He is a British substitute. They stole the title from the Welsh.

Is there some law that states only a Welshman can be the true Prince of Wales?

No, there isn't, just like there is no law saying that the King or Queen of Britain has to be British, or the King or Queen of Canada has to be Canadian.

No, I'm saying money is being wasted on rubber bands and trips and other nonsense, instead of going where it's needed.

The money isn't being wasted, is it? The money I spent on the Help for Heroes wristband and badge goes to Help for Heroes.

I don't think you understand how it all works, do you?

Here's what I wore to show my support for our "heroes:"





Here's what EagleSmack wore:





Other folk here wore other hats of the same general type.


But you're the real patriot. You wear a Lance Armstrong knockoff wrist condom.


A "Lance Armstrong knockoff wrist condom" which I acquired after donating money to an armed forces charity.

How much money did you give to an armed forces charity by wearing those hats?

And you can wear those wristbands wherever you go. Just try wearing those hats everywhere.
 

karrie

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The money isn't being wasted, is it? The money I spent on the Help for Heroes wristband and badge goes to Help for Heroes.

I don't think you understand how it all works, do you?


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They'd have gotten more of your money if you just gave them the money, and didn't expect a badges and bands in return for it. They wouldn't have to pay for plastic crap, and could just keep the entire sum. How is this not making sense to you?