Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz named in US lawsuit over underage sex

darkbeaver

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Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz named in US lawsuit over underage sex allegations

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British press reports today that a woman claims that Jewish banker Jeffrey Epstein loaned her to rich and powerful friends as an underage “sex slave.” The woman has alleged in a US court document that she was repeatedly forced to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz.
The woman, who filed the motion anonymously, alleges that between 1999 and 2002 she was repeatedly sexually abused by Epstein who, she also alleges, loaned her out to rich and influential men around the world.
The British press is obviously interested in developments related to prince Andrew. But I am actually curious to hear what the ethnic cleansing enthusiast Alan Dershowitz has to say in his defence.

The state can't handle the volume of historical child sex abuse allegations claims MP as he warns that victim total could be in the 'many tens of thousands'


The number of victims coming forward with allegations of historical child abuse could reach ‘many tens of thousands’, an MP has warned.
John Mann said the state ‘can't deal with’ the volume of claims that are being made.
The Labour MP for Bassetlaw suggested a national institute needed to be created to handle the complaints.
 

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Feel sorry for the crust? Nope. My empathies rest with the people with legitimate claims who get trivialized by fortune-hunters. Andy didn't get the pro "Randy" for being saintly in demeanour
 

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All you gotta have is name and someone's gonna try and capitalize on it - and that screws things for legitimate claims

No pun intended ??:lol:

The legitimacy of the claim will be decided. I am not the least bit familiar with the Princes reputation.

Neither am I, but I wouldn't get the joy you would from kicking a Jew in the nuts.

just sayin.
 

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No pun intended ??:lol:



Neither am I, but I wouldn't get the joy you would from kicking a Jew in the nuts.

just sayin.

Which one of them do you mean?
 

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The number of victims coming forward with allegations of historical child abuse could reach ‘many tens of thousands’, an MP has warned.

John Mann said the state ‘can't deal with’ the volume of claims that are being made.

The Labour MP for Bassetlaw suggested a national institute needed to be created to handle the complaints.
The vast majority of these "victims" now coming forward are nothing of the sort. Most of them are just fantasists and other assorted weirdos who are now crawling out of the woodwork now that a national investigation is underway by the police into "historical child abuse" allegations, and by the political establishment into such allegations against their own - the Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in England and Wales.

It was originally announced that that inquiry was to be chaired by Baroness Butler-Sloss. On 14 July 2014 it was announced that Baroness Butler-Sloss was standing down from the inquiry after mounting pressure from victims' groups and MPs over her suitability regarding the fact that her brother was the Attorney General at the time of some of the abuses in question, and on 5 September it was announced that it would be chaired by Fiona Woolf, but on 31 October 2014 she too resigned from the role. On 21 October 2014, Woolf disclosed that she lived in the same London street as Lord Brittan and had invited the Conservative Peer and his wife, Diana Brittan (formally styled The Lady Brittan of Spennithorne DBE), to dinner on three occasions. Lord Brittan had been Home Secretary in 1984 when ministers were handed a dossier on alleged high-profile paedophiles; he has insisted that the proper procedures were followed. In total, she had dined with Lord Brittan and his family five times since 2008, and also had joined Lady Brittan for coffee on a "small number of occasions". So it now seems that the chair of the Independent Panel Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in England and Wales may be recruited from abroad as it seems that the British political class can't find anyone to chair the inquiry who isn't biased in favour of the British political class.


Dame Fiona Woolf

The Metropolitan Police's Operation Yewtree has been criticised for being nothing more than a witchhunt against white male celebrities.

Former Monty Python member Terry Gilliam and TV presented Chris Tarrant have called it as such. Most of those celebrities who have been arrested have been found to be completely innocent of all charges, including the likes of Coronation Street actors William Roache and Michael Le Vell and comedian Jim Davidson.

Just last year, the police and the BBC were criticised over their handling of allegations against Sir Cliff Richard (as a white male with strong Christian beliefs, he's a figure the British Establishment detests). In August the police searched his home in Berkshire in connection with an alleged historic sex offence in Sheffield. A BBC News helicopter filmed everything from above. Nine days later, Sir Richard voluntarily met members of South Yorkshire Police by appointment.He was not arrested or charged. It later emerged that the investigation was prompted when a man contacted Exposure documentary presenter Mark Williams-Thomas, who then put him in touch with Operation Yewtree police in 2013. Because the alleged assault occurred in Sheffield, the Metropolitan Police passed the information to South Yorkshire Police.Richard said the allegation was "completely false" and complained that the press appeared to have been given advance notice that his home in Berkshire was to be searched – whereas he had not been. To date, Sir Cliff has not been charged with anything and there has been no evidence against him whatsoever, yet at the time the police searched his house the BBC were acting as though he was guilty.

In an article for The Spectator, Rod Liddle criticised the handling of these cases by police, especially in the case of Freddie Starr who was arrested four times and bailed nine times before being told he would not be charged, claiming: "the way the police have conducted the process is hugely unfair".

In the aftermath of Cliff Richard's August 2014 property search, human rights barrister Geoffrey Robertson wrote in The Independent that the long delays before announcing charges amounted to "outrageous treatment", adding: "This has been one of the most intolerable features of other high-profile arrests for 'historic' offences, namely the inability of police and prosecutors to deliver Magna Carta’s truly historic promise that justice will not be delayed."


Comedian Jim Davidson (left) and radio and TV presenter Paul Gambaccini (right) were arrested as part of Operation Yewtree and were left on bail for many months before being told they would not face charges

After others, including Jim Davidson and Paul Gambaccini, were left on bail for many months before being told they would not face charges, Home Secretary Theresa May proposed that bail time be limited to 28 days, saying it "cannot be right that people can spend months or even years on pre-charge bail with no oversight".

At a Labour Party conference in July 2014, comedian and friend of American-British TV and radio presenter Paul Gambaccini (on 1 November 2013, it was reported that he had been arrested on suspicion of historical sexual offences as part of an investigation by Operation Yewtree. Gambaccini was released on bail and his spokesman said that he denied the allegations.It was announced on 10 October 2014 that no charges would be brought) Stephen Fry criticised the operation, pointing out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false sex abuse allegations.

MP Nigel Evans, who was cleared of unrelated sexual assault charges, has called for individuals to receive anonymity until charged.

Rosie Millard criticized the operation after Dave Lee Travis was convicted on one count of indecent assault for groping a woman's breast for 15 seconds in 1995, saying: "one has to ask whether the Operation Yewtree fervour, fuelled no doubt by the frustration that one of Britain’s sickest and most evil perverts (TV entertainer Jimmy Savile) died before he could come to justice, has simply gone a bit crazy. If we started jailing every man who has ever squeezed a breast, there would be no time for any other sort of case in our courts, and our prisons would be the size of a small city."

Newspaper columnist Carole Malone claimed the case against DJ Dave Lee Travis was a "witch-hunt", adding "if police spent more of their limited time and resources hunting dangerous sex criminals – and less on celebrity gropers – the world would be a safer place."


At a Labour Party conference in July 2014, Paul Gambaccini's friend Stephen Fry criticised the operation, pointing out that fewer than half of those accused at the time had been found guilty, and called for tougher laws to prevent false sex abuse allegations


Operation Yewtree - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The woman has alleged in a US court document that she was repeatedly forced to have sexual relations with Prince Andrew and Alan Dershowitz.
And that's utter bull****, as it'll soon emerge.

Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'


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Prince Andrew, a Falklands War veteran, was Britain's Special Representative for International Trade and Investment between 2001 and 2011


A US lawyer alleged to have had sex with a minor has denied the claims - and said allegations against Prince Andrew must also be "presumed" false.

Alan Dershowitz said the woman making the claims "should not be believed".

He and the Duke of York were named in documents filed in a Florida court over how prosecutors handled a case against financier Jeffrey Epstein.

The woman alleges she was forced by Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew - claims denied by Buckingham Palace.

She says it happened when she was under age, and on three occasions - in London, New York and on a private Caribbean island owned by Epstein - between 1999 and 2002.

A Buckingham Palace spokeswoman said: "This relates to long-standing and ongoing civil proceedings in the United States, to which the Duke of York is not a party.

"As such we would not comment on the detail. However, for the avoidance of doubt, any suggestion of impropriety with under age minors is categorically untrue".

'Will not rest'

A prominent lawyer and former Harvard Law professor, Mr Dershowitz said the allegations against him were not true.

Speaking to BBC Radio 4's Today programme, he said: "My only feeling is if she's lied about me - which I know to an absolute certainty she has - she should not be believed about anyone else."

He said the woman had "lied about other public figures including a former prime minister and others who she claims to have participated in sexual activities with".

"So I think it must be presumed all her allegations against Prince Andrew were false as well," he told the programme.

He said that he had only met the prince at public occasions, and had never been alone with him.

Mr Dershowitz said he wanted all evidence about the case to be made public, and added: "The story is totally made up. I do not know this woman. I was not at the places at the times. I am denying [the allegations] under oath thus subjecting myself to a perjury prosecution were I not telling the truth."

The woman has issued a statement through her lawyers, saying she was "looking forward to vindicating my rights as an innocent victim and pursuing all available recourse", adding that she was "not going to be bullied back into silence".

The court document alleges that Epstein sexually trafficked the woman - then a minor - making her available for sex to politically-connected and financially powerful people.

Prince Andrew and Mr Dershowitz are two of three well-known men named in the court document who it alleges had sexual relations with the woman.


Prince Andrew has been criticised for his former friendship with Jeffrey Epstein (right)

The prince has previously been criticised for his former friendship with Epstein, who was sentenced to 18 months in prison for soliciting a minor for prostitution.

The pair were photographed meeting in December 2010, after the tycoon had served a prison sentence, while the prince had also visited Epstein at his Florida home over the years.

In 2011, the prince had to apologise for his friendship with him. He stepped down as the UK special representative for trade and investment in July 2011 after 10 years in the role.

Peter Hunt, BBC royal correspondent, said the prince was "once again the focus of an attention he'd rather avoid because of his past friendship with a convicted sex offender".

Our correspondent said Saturday morning's newspaper headlines were "pretty unpalatable" for the prince "and indeed for the royal family".

Background


By Rajini Vaidyanathan, BBC Washington correspondent

While accusations are levelled against Prince Andrew, it's important to note that he is not party to the proceedings.

Instead he is named as part of evidence relating to a wider case of an alleged sex trafficking scheme, involving US businessman Jeffrey Epstein, who spent time in jail in 2008-9 for a sex offence with a minor.

Two women (known as Jane Doe #1 and Jane Doe #2) are suing the US government, saying it failed to protect their rights when it entered into a plea deal with Epstein.

Now, two further women (Jane Doe #3 and #4) want to join this case, and it's Jane Doe #3 who has made claims against the Duke of York, as part of this.

The prince strongly denies the allegations. This is the first time they have surfaced publicly, and no legal case has been made against him on this matter.


BBC News - Prince Andrew sex claims woman 'should not be believed'
 
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Jeffrey Epstein accuser: video exists of underage sex with powerful men






The woman who alleges that she was made to have sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17 has told a court she believes US authorities hold video footage of her having underage sex with powerful associates of Andrew’s friend Jeffrey Epstein.


Virginia Roberts also alleged in a new affidavit filed on Friday that she was so badly assaulted by Epstein’s friends that she thought she might die.


Dismissed as a liar and a fantasist by Epstein allies, Roberts filed with her affidavit on Friday previously undisclosed receipts for a flight from New York to Thailand in September 2002 and a stay costing several thousand dollars at the Royal Princess hotel in Chiang Mai. All the bills appeared to have been paid for by “J Epstein”.


Roberts, who says she was recruited for Epstein at 15, has previously alleged that she was sent on the Thailand trip by Epstein to learn Thai massage and interview a Thai girl “to bring back to the United States” for him. Instead, she says, she met a man whom she married and fled with him to Australia for more than a decade.


Government prosecutors say that Roberts was properly notified about the plea deal at the time it was struck and has waited too long to join the lawsuit. Roberts argues that she did not fully understand the letter sent to her by prosecutors and was too scared of repercussions from Epstein’s powerful friends to come out of hiding.


Roberts was contacted and interviewed by FBI agents at the US consulate in Sydney soon after first going public with allegations against Epstein and Andrew in a 2011 interview with the Mail on Sunday. However, she wrote, “they seemed like they were being blocked from doing what they wanted to do – which I thought was to arrest Epstein and his powerful friends for all of their illegal sexual crimes.”




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It would appear to me that Brittain is just one big child molesting compound. I wonder if Blackie knows of any Brittish folk that don't like to molest kids.
 

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It would appear to me that Brittain is just one big child molesting compound. I wonder if Blackie knows of any Brittish folk that don't like to molest kids.





Sadly this type of thing is appears to be everywhere........
 

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British press reports today that a woman claims that Jewish banker Jeffrey Epstein loaned her to rich and powerful friends as an underage “sex slave.”

What's his religion got to do with it?

It would appear to me that Brittain is just one big child molesting compound. I wonder if Blackie knows of any Brittish folk that don't like to molest kids.


The guy who lives in the flat upstairs doesn't like to molest kids.

He just likes to make mad, passionate love with them.