Pot Roast to die for

[MikeyDB]

Unforgiven

Sure I am, you're absolutely correct, the thread was about Juan's pot roast dinner and I made a remark that seems to have derailed that discussion. I am sorry that I caused such a conflict ..genuinely. I like pot roast too and I certainly hope that Juan and everyone else won't "manage" their contributions to the discussion because I happen to be living a different quality of life. Really, I mentioned the Sunday Dinner I have not as a lever to take the discussion off track but to both inject a little humor and insert perhaps the notion that not everyone has the means or prosperity of enjoying the same things as everyone else. As your friend Gerry indicates, I'm responsible for all that's wrong with the world and I accept that critique. But please, I assure you, I offered my appology freely and sincerely.

 

[gerryh]

:roll:

Unforgiven

Sure I am, you're absolutely correct, the thread was about Juan's pot roast dinner and I made a remark that seems to have derailed that discussion. I am sorry that I caused such a conflict ..genuinely. I like pot roast too and I certainly hope that Juan and everyone else won't "manage" their contributions to the discussion because I happen to be living a different quality of life. Really, I mentioned the Sunday Dinner I have not as a lever to take the discussion off track but to both inject a little humor and insert perhaps the notion that not everyone has the means or prosperity of enjoying the same things as everyone else. As your friend Gerry indicates, I'm responsible for all that's wrong with the world and I accept that critique. But please, I assure you, I offered my appology freely and sincerely.

:roll:

more "poor me".

 

[#juan]

The only roast they I will allow my wife to buy is a standing rib...anything else I consider a waste of money, and as for steaks....Tenderloin only.

Gerryh you are either kidding or ignorant. There are a few other roasts that have qualities a standing rib doesn't have and there are certainly steaks that have more to offer than a tenderloin.
A rump roast produces better drippings for gravy than a standing rib and is usually leaner and just as tender. Oh sure a tenderloin can be made to almost melt in your mouth if that is what you want in a steak. I personally prefer a ribeye for it's broiled flavour as well as it's texture. When our kids were young we bought porterhouse steaks. My wife and I would have the New York strip and the kids would get the tenderloin from that same steak.
Pot roasts are generally a blade roast or a cross rib and if they are cooked right, they don't have to be second fiddle to any other roast. Liking food is mainly a personal preference but limiting yourselvs to only the most expensive roasts and steaks is foolishness.

 

[Unforgiven]

Unforgiven

Sure I am, you're absolutely correct, the thread was about Juan's pot roast dinner and I made a remark that seems to have derailed that discussion. I am sorry that I caused such a conflict ..genuinely. I like pot roast too and I certainly hope that Juan and everyone else won't "manage" their contributions to the discussion because I happen to be living a different quality of life. Really, I mentioned the Sunday Dinner I have not as a lever to take the discussion off track but to both inject a little humor and insert perhaps the notion that not everyone has the means or prosperity of enjoying the same things as everyone else. As your friend Gerry indicates, I'm responsible for all that's wrong with the world and I accept that critique. But please, I assure you, I offered my appology freely and sincerely.

You have an important point, but it's a whole thread of it's own. I'd love to talk about poverty, it's effect on people and the range of poverty here and over there. You jump from injecting a little humour to whining and bitching with a couple of people that for the most part no one is terribly interested in. But this is about cooking and enjoying the savoury dishes some of us like to prepare and other would like to try.

What I see the you are responsible for is your own contribution to the thread. Nothing more. But I'm not guilty for your lot in life. So why try and lower something that makes some people feel good to talk about? No one has the intent to hurt your feelings posting about food here.

 

[gerryh]

Gerryh you are either kidding or ignorant. There are a few other roasts that have qualities a standing rib doesn't have and there are certainly steaks that have more to offer than a tenderloin.
A rump roast produces better better drippings for gravy than a standing rib and is usually leaner and just as tender. Oh sure a tenderloin can be made to almost melt in your mouth if that is what you want in a steak. I personally prefer a ribeye for it's broiled flavour as well as it's texture. When our kids were young we bought porterhouse steaks. My wife and I would have the New York strip and the kids would get the tenderloin from that same steak.
Pot roasts are generally a blade roast or a cross rib and if they are cooked right, they don't have to be second fiddle to any other roast. Liking food is mainly a personal preference but limiting yourselvs to only the most expensive roasts and steaks is foolishness.

Juan, it was mainly a smart ass comment to the BS from Mikey....I sure as hell couldn't "allow"my wife to do or buy anything. Not unless I sudenly had a death wish <grin>.

As for the standing rib, the way my wife cooks it, she gets enough drippings to make a nice rich thick gravy. The meat melts in your mouth, and the taste is to die for. You'd have to ask her the hows and whats.

Same with the tenderloin...the way she cooks it, it is to die for, no matter how you like your steak cooked. She is also able to make the cheapest cuts taste fantastic. Doesn't hurt any that I married a chef that got some of her training at the Hotel Vancouver and the Hyatt Regency.<grin>

 

[Unforgiven]

Gerryh you are either kidding or ignorant. There are a few other roasts that have qualities a standing rib doesn't have and there are certainly steaks that have more to offer than a tenderloin.
A rump roast produces better better drippings for gravy than a standing rib and is usually leaner and just as tender. Oh sure a tenderloin can be made to almost melt in your mouth if that is what you want in a steak. I personally prefer a ribeye for it's broiled flavour as well as it's texture. When our kids were young we bought porterhouse steaks. My wife and I would have the New York strip and the kids would get the tenderloin from that same steak.
Pot roasts are generally a blade roast or a cross rib and if they are cooked right, they don't have to be second fiddle to any other roast. Liking food is mainly a personal preference but limiting yourselvs to only the most expensive roasts and steaks is foolishness.

You know #juan, I just wonder if you and I could scare a cow to death just by looking at it.:lol:

 

[#juan]

You know #juan, I just wonder if you and I could scare a cow to death just by looking at it.:lol:

Hey. To a cow, it might be worse than death itself to see us coming across the field with a cleaver in one hand and a bone saw in the other.......:roll::lol:

 

[#juan]

Juan, it was mainly a smart ass comment to the BS from Mikey....I sure as hell couldn't "allow"my wife to do or buy anything. Not unless I sudenly had a death wish <grin>.

As for the standing rib, the way my wife cooks it, she gets enough drippings to make a nice rich thick gravy. The meat melts in your mouth, and the taste is to die for. You'd have to ask her the hows and whats.

Same with the tenderloin...the way she cooks it, it is to die for, no matter how you like your steak cooked. She is also able to make the cheapest cuts taste fantastic. Doesn't hurt any that I married a chef that got some of her training at the Hotel Vancouver and the Hyatt Regency.<grin>

Gerry there are a few of us here that consider ourselves to be pretty good cooks. I haven't yet seen your wife's contributions to cooking threads on this forum.. She is more than welcome, as is anyone.................Cheers

 

[gerryh]

Gerry there are a few of us here that consider ourselves to be pretty good cooks. I haven't yet seen your wife's contributions to cooking threads on this forum.. She is more than welcome, as is anyone.................Cheers

excuse meeeeeeeeee

 

[#juan]

What is this? I have heard of it, but I have never tried it. No one in Texas makes this. Now this might be something for which I'd like the recipe. I make a Cajun gravy in the blender and pour it over the roast in the crock pot. No wine. Still excellent, but so
EXPENSIVE. I can't afford it very often. How much did that 6 lb. roast cost?

Uncle

No sooner said than done...:smile: BTW, the roast cost about twelve dollars. Yorkshire pudding is an old English dish to be served with roast beef and gravy, The recipe is below.

http://tinyurl.com/24l63

 

[karrie]

Yet he can afford internet access:roll:

I have to admit to thinking the same thing gerryh. But, I didn't say it. And I'm glad I didn't, because on further thinking, I'd scale down to the cheapest food possible as well, rather than spring for potroast just to sit all day with no one to 'talk' to via this lovely device. Balancing a budget means balancing out what will help keep you healthy. And for many people who are disabled (as Mikey is), staying healthy also means having people to communicate with. It can be more important than your vitamin intake frankly. I'd personally put internet connection as a vital in his situation. Thus, yes, he's left with a piddly amount to buy food with. And that's a shame. If you ever have something more constructive to discuss on the issue of food on a tight budget, as so many here have, I'm sure it would be helpful. But scorn and mockery isn't likely to change much.

 

[#juan]

Karrie
One of the points made was that a pot roast was one of the cheaper meals out there. Somebody else offered that homemade or home cooked beans were cheaper than canned. If Mikey chooses to eat wieners and canned beans that is his choice. I admit I don't fully understand Mikey's situation in that his budget was $300.00. Was that the food or total living allowance after rent?

 

[jenn]

thing is.. scaling down to to the cheapest food does NOT mean you HAVE to have beans and wienies.... you can make awesome meals for less than 20.00 for a family... so if you are a single..that 20.00 meal can feed you at least 4 - 6 times... freeze it so you can have it once a week etc... lasagna, spaggetti, roast beef, roast pork, roast chicken.. yes even turkey... learn to stretch the food..not neccessarily the dollar... be creative...

 

[karrie]

Turkey (even turkey breast roasts) are a great way to go indeed Jenn. Frankly, the sales bin at the meat dept at Super Store is where I do a lot of my shopping. I can get some great roasts, pre-marinated pork tenderloin and the like, for right around $3, with enough in them to serve 6 people. Even before the discount, it's a $6 roast, which is cheap at $1 a serving.

But, not everyone has access to the same stores I do either. You can't get there without a vehicle typically, and it's not set up well for anyone with mobility issues.

 

[unclepercy]

Nuggler

No offense taken my friend.

I'm living the legacy of the Mike Harris government's regard for the disabled, and no I don't honestly believe that anyone on this site think the situation is either fair or appropriate. It's been like this for me and many others for 12 years and the McGuinty government of Ontario felt it approprate to give MPPs a 25% raise while the disabled recieved 2%. A 2% raise covers a haircut for me but doesn't radically change the quality of life I can lead.

I'm sorry if anyone felt I was dumping on the gang here at CC... That wasn't my intent. Despite those who feel that waging wars in the name of democracy and "freedom" is a good and appropriate thing for Canada to be doing...there are a great many Canadians who live at and below the same level as I. Is there any reasonable expectation that Canada will take care of its citizens before it decides to play brother-war-monger with America?

Probably not, and in the interim, hundreds of thousands of Canadians will be forced to make a choice between eating and living in-doors, between living in darkness because they can't afford electricity and staying fixed in one spot because they can't afford the bus. We've made choices and even if the concensus is that families and the disabled, aboriginals and the elderly are second class citizens, it's tough to understand that Lebannese and Afghanis and so many others who've contributed nothing to this country get a so-much-larger slice of a limited pie.

Sorry...grousing a bit...

Mikey,
My electric bill was $500 this month/so living off $300 a month is truly impossible in my neck of the woods. Can I ask you something? I'm not being nosy. I just don't understand how things work in Canada, that's all.

Do you receive food assistance, such as food stamps? Here you would qualify. Also you would qualify for free medical (but you get that), a housing allotment, and depending on your disability, free transporation. Does Canada make provisions for the handicapped such as these?

Uncle

 

[unclepercy]

No sooner said than done...:smile: BTW, the roast cost about twelve dollars. Yorkshire pudding is an old English dish to be served with roast beef and gravy, The recipe is below.

http://tinyurl.com/24l63

Thank you very much. They look like pop-overs. Is this really a pudding or a bread?
The roast would cost a lot more than that here, I think. I don't but that cut, but a
rump roast to serve 4 generously would cost about $20.

PS: I printed out the recipe, and since it's so simple, I plan to try it.

Uncle

 

[#juan]

Uncle

A pot roast needs a cut of beef with a lttle gristle and fat in it because it cooks so long. A good, lean, cut of meat will likely turn out stringy. On the other hand, any roast is better if it is well marbled.

BTW, Yorkshire pudding is a first cousin to pop-overs.

 

[#juan]

Try white wine, it is better for the roast and veggies taste more real.

No Avro, it doesn't.

 

[karrie]

No Avro, it doesn't.

5 years... wow. Epic necropost!

 

[FiveParadox]

I've always found reds to work better with pot roast.