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Spade

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Correction: 1/4000 = 0.00025 = 0.025%. I did.
You aren't a friend of democracy, are you?

A self-selected reader poll that allows responders to vote multiple times is less than representative. Now, the percentage based on 4013 responses is only 64.49%. I stopped there because my voting finger is tired.
 

Colpy

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Correction: 1/4000 = 0.00025 = 0.025%. I did.
You aren't a friend of democracy, are you?

A self-selected reader poll that allows responders to vote multiple times is less than representative. Now, the percentage based on 4013 responses is only 64.49%. I stopped there because my voting finger is tired.

Yeah, on-line surveys are pretty well a joke.

But we elected the Harper gov't to "dismantle the Long Gun Registry".

The data IS the registry, and the election was the only poll that matters.
 

taxslave

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Correction: 1/4000 = 0.00025 = 0.025%. I did.
You aren't a friend of democracy, are you?
A self-selected reader poll that allows responders to vote multiple times is less than representative. Now, the percentage based on 4013 responses is only 64.49%. I stopped there because my voting finger is tired.
I tried to balance your bad voting out but the poll wouldn't let me.
 

Spade

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Yeah, on-line surveys are pretty well a joke.

But we elected the Harper gov't to "dismantle the Long Gun Registry".

The data IS the registry, and the election was the only poll that matters.

Nonsense, among the minority of Canadians who voted for Harper, many made that decision on issues other than abolition of the registry. You are a good propagandist, but a bad apologist.

I tried to balance your bad voting out but the poll wouldn't let me.

Delete cookies before logging back on to the site. Please don't go too wild.
 
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Cliffy

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Harper was not voted into office to kill the gun registry. If that is the only reason he won, that would reflect badly on the IQ of the average Canadian voter. Harper won because the Cons did such a fine job of character assassination on Iggy (who didn't need any help from them). The majority of Canadians did not vote for the Cons. I don't see the need for or the logic behind the long gun registry but I think Harper used it to garner votes more than actually cared about it. I mean, the man poses for pictures with kittens wearing blue cardigans, for gawd's sake. I doubt he knows how to use a gun. Perhaps Dick Cheney could show him how.
 

taxslave

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Harper was not voted into office to kill the gun registry. If that is the only reason he won, that would reflect badly on the IQ of the average Canadian voter. Harper won because the Cons did such a fine job of character assassination on Iggy (who didn't need any help from them). The majority of Canadians did not vote for the Cons. I don't see the need for or the logic behind the long gun registry but I think Harper used it to garner votes more than actually cared about it. I mean, the man poses for pictures with kittens wearing blue cardigans, for gawd's sake. I doubt he knows how to use a gun. Perhaps Dick Cheney could show him how.
Boy do you got that wrong. Around here that was the main reason for voting.
 

DurkaDurka

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F the registry and good riddance to it. Next thing you know, they'll want me to register my Trident, yes I have a Trident.
 

JamesBondo

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Harper was not voted into office to kill the gun registry. If that is the only reason he won, that would reflect badly on the IQ of the average Canadian voter. Harper won because the Cons did such a fine job of character assassination on Iggy (who didn't need any help from them). The majority of Canadians did not vote for the Cons. I don't see the need for or the logic behind the long gun registry but I think Harper used it to garner votes more than actually cared about it. I mean, the man poses for pictures with kittens wearing blue cardigans, for gawd's sake. I doubt he knows how to use a gun. Perhaps Dick Cheney could show him how.

The Liberals were not voted into office to protect the billion dollar registry.
 

Colpy

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The majority of electors (60%) did not vote for the Conservatives.

(sigh)

The majority did not vote for Chretien in 1993 either, in fact less than 42% voted for him, and he had to push the Firearms Act through over a caucus revolt.

There are problems with the FPTP system, but it IS legitimate........as is the gov't.
 

Niflmir

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The majority did not vote for Chretien in 1993 either, in fact less than 42% voted for him, and he had to push the Firearms Act through over a caucus revolt.
There are problems with the FPTP system, but it IS legitimate........as is the gov't.
Well I disagree with the legitamacy, but that is another issue entirely.

Saying that the election is the only poll that matters for justifying a certain issue is just plain wrong, and that is what I was pointing out. If it were right, then the Conservatives would have no business dismantling what a previously elected government created. Especially when that government at 42%, had a larger plurality than the current 40%. Sure it is enough to be legal, but does it represent the will of the people?

In this case yes, but in others it won't.

The real question is... do I reverse engineer their javascript and spam their online poll?
 

L Gilbert

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From 1995, when the firearms registry became law, to 2010, there was a 41 per cent reduction in homicides by long guns.
And an almost immediate increase in homicides by handguns. See the red dotted line in the graph? And besides, the graph also shows that the rate of homicides by long guns was going down anyway.
(I didn't read any farther than that because stats are not that useful in displaying good sense sometimes.)
 

JamesBondo

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The trending is following various trends like an aging baby boomer population, abortion(unwanted children growing up to be criminals), inner city crime related to drugs, etc.

The weakest correlation exists with the gun registry.