poll:gun registery

[L Gilbert]

However, over time the rate for handguns is essentially flat. 0.3 deaths/100 000 population

lol Yep. The registry had little or no effect on homicide by shotgun either. I'd suggest that the rate of rifle homicides had nothing to do with the registry. Like StatsCan showed, the rate was going down before rumblings about the registry anyway. Probably because of the increase in availability of illegal handguns.

The real point of the statistics seems to be that people are killing their family less often.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/2011001/article/11561/c-g/E-11561-chart9.jpg

And that appears to have been occurring before the registry also.

 

[Niflmir]

lol Yep. The registry had little or no effect on homicide by shotgun either. I'd suggest that the rate of rifle homicides had nothing to do with the registry. Like StatsCan showed, the rate was going down before rumblings about the registry anyway. Probably because of the increase in availability of illegal handguns.
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The only thing that a registry could conceivably accomplish anyways is convicting criminals of possession related crimes before they actually commit a crime.

That is to say, we all know that criminals won't register their guns. So if a person is driving down the street with an unregistered gun on their way to commit a robbery, the police have grounds to arrest them before that crime is ever committed.

Unfortunately, it seems the police only used the registry to target people for random inspections to charge them with lame infractions related to safe storage.

Police should need a warrant to check that information. That goes for hand guns too.

 

[L Gilbert]

I'd suggest that the reason homicide rate started calming down is because of more legal attention to the issue (like enforcement, harsher sentences, etc. ) than anything registry-wise.

The only thing that a registry could conceivably accomplish anyways is convicting criminals of possession related crimes before they actually commit a crime.

That is to say, we all know that criminals won't register their guns. So if a person is driving down the street with an unregistered gun on their way to commit a robbery, the police have grounds to arrest them before that crime is ever committed.

Unfortunately, it seems the police only used the registry to target people for random inspections to charge them with lame infractions related to safe storage.

Police should need a warrant to check that information. That goes for hand guns too.

yep.

 

[Niflmir]

I really wonder why it increased from 1965-1977. It has just been decreasing since then, so probably some people were taught that violence was the answer back in the late 60's early 70's, and we've just beed dealing with the fallout ever since.

Homicide in Canada, 2010

 

[L Gilbert]

I really wonder why it increased from 1965-1977. It has just been decreasing since then, so probably some people were taught that violence was the answer back in the late 60's early 70's, and we've just beed dealing with the fallout ever since.

Homicide in Canada, 2010

they were hunting hippies?

 

[JamesBondo]

1965 is 20 years after 1945, sounds like 65 was one of the first years that the unwanted baby boomers ( no abortion) reached adult hood.

 

[Colpy]

1965 is 20 years after 1945, sounds like 65 was one of the first years that the unwanted baby boomers ( no abortion) reached adult hood.

NOT QUITE.

There was little legal abortion in Canada before the eighties, so that kinda shoots that out of the water.........I am NOT a fan of the philosophy that murder rates have dropped because free abortion eliminated unwanted (read "undesireable") children.

It simply smacks of racism and class hatred, with a hint of eugenics.

The simple fact is that the vast majority of murder is committed by young men. When the boomers hit their late teens, murder rates rose, and continued to rise with the wave of of young men hitting the age......and receeded as the demographic wave receeded.

Simple as that.

 

[wulfie68]

The only thing that a registry could conceivably accomplish anyways is convicting criminals of possession related crimes before they actually commit a crime.

That is to say, we all know that criminals won't register their guns. So if a person is driving down the street with an unregistered gun on their way to commit a robbery, the police have grounds to arrest them before that crime is ever committed.

Unfortunately, it seems the police only used the registry to target people for random inspections to charge them with lame infractions related to safe storage.

Police should need a warrant to check that information. That goes for hand guns too.

The registry was also supposed to stop events like the L'Ecole Polytechnique massacre from happening again, according to Alan Rock and his sycophants. Given that the shootings at Dawson College happened, it appears to have failed in that objective as well.

It was kneejerk legislation that was flawed in concept and implementation, and should never have been passed. I am not opposed to reasonable gun control measures (such as safe storage laws and background checks being required for permits to purchase, etc), but the registry went far beyond reasonable.

 

[JamesBondo]

.I am NOT a fan of the philosophy that murder rates have dropped because free abortion eliminated unwanted (read "undesireable") children.
It simply smacks of racism and class hatred, with a hint of eugenics.

It seams that your ears are hearing 'smacks' from previous posts from other members, for I will maintain that unplanned pregnancies are not exclusive to race, class, or gene pool.

Yet, 100,000 children from caring parents ( that wanted them from the word GO ) are likely to be better adjusted civilians.