Police State News 3

[Jay]

Re: RE: Police State News 3

"Nope. Freedom of speech has to be maintained. If that means burn the flag when our politicians get stupid, then thats how it should be, I just hope the Senate votes no."


Think of it this way....if it is written into the constitution, then it isn't a freedom of speech issue anymore....it's a win, win situation!!

I can't agree Jay. It should not be banned. The US Supreme Court was clear on this:

"If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the Government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable."

I know we don't agree here... I just think it is a noble cause....I'm a bit of a sucker for a good flag.

If it was written into the constitution...the supreme court couldn't do anything about it....

I know what you're saying also. But the Constitution is meant to give rights, not take them away. Whats next? Making abortion illegal?

Well that’s part of it...but the intentions of a constitution are to put cornerstone rules outside the reach of the things like the supreme court.... saying you can't desecrate the nations symbol is a cause worthy of an amendment...abortion, I'm sure, is already considered protected by the constitution.... otherwise it might still be illegal.

 

[I think not]

Re: RE: Police State News 3

Well that’s part of it...but the intentions of a constitution are to put cornerstone rules outside the reach of the things like the supreme court.... saying you can't desecrate the nations symbol is a cause worthy of an amendment...abortion, I'm sure, is already considered protected by the constitution.... otherwise it might still be illegal.

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case establishing that laws against abortion violate a constitutional right to privacy, overturning all state laws outlawing or restricting abortion. It remains one of the most controversial decisions in Supreme Court history.

 

[Jay]

Re: RE: Police State News 3

Well that’s part of it...but the intentions of a constitution are to put cornerstone rules outside the reach of the things like the supreme court.... saying you can't desecrate the nations symbol is a cause worthy of an amendment...abortion, I'm sure, is already considered protected by the constitution.... otherwise it might still be illegal.

Roe v. Wade, 410 U.S. 113 (1973), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case establishing that laws against abortion violate a constitutional right to privacy, overturning all state laws outlawing or restricting abortion. It remains one of the most controversial decisions in Supreme Court history.

Ya your right...It was a valiant attempt...I was hoping you were getting sleepy....

 

[Jay]

Actually I think I might have sparked one (maybe two) up last night...but that doesn't change the fact your a pink team fightn' for, flag burner... :wink:

Just kidding folks.

 

[Jo Canadian]

Jay wrote:
"Nope. Freedom of speech has to be maintained. If that means burn the flag when our politicians get stupid, then thats how it should be, I just hope the Senate votes no."


Think of it this way....if it is written into the constitution, then it isn't a freedom of speech issue anymore....it's a win, win situation!!

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Jay wrote:
"Nope. Freedom of speech has to be maintained. If that means burn the flag when our politicians get stupid, then thats how it should be, I just hope the Senate votes no."


Think of it this way....if it is written into the constitution, then it isn't a freedom of speech issue anymore....it's a win, win situation!!

Excellent... :lol: :lol: :thumbleft:

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[I think not]

I'm still hoping those two votes won't pass in the Senate. It's not over till its over.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I'm still hoping those two votes won't pass in the Senate. It's not over till its over.

what is your "hunch" about which way this will go???


(thx.)

 

[I think not]

I'm still hoping those two votes won't pass in the Senate. It's not over till its over.

what is your "hunch" about which way this will go???


(thx.)

Honestly Ocean, I don't know. I'm just "hoping" it will go the right way. No ban on flag burning.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I'm still hoping those two votes won't pass in the Senate. It's not over till its over.

what is your "hunch" about which way this will go???


(thx.)

Honestly Ocean, I don't know. I'm just "hoping" it will go the right way. No ban on flag burning.

although, not in my purvue...... hoping for that too. Flag burning is a rather forceful expression .(symbolic too) (and better than guns :wink:

When do you think "we" will know???

 

[I think not]

I'm still hoping those two votes won't pass in the Senate. It's not over till its over.

what is your "hunch" about which way this will go???


(thx.)

Honestly Ocean, I don't know. I'm just "hoping" it will go the right way. No ban on flag burning.

although, not in my purvue...... hoping for that too. Flag burning is a rather forceful expression .(symbolic too) (and better than guns :wink:

When do you think "we" will know???

The Senate is due to vote on it sometime after the 4th of July