Sorry - you equated 'support' with voting for them. I was only supporting their right to exist. Just trying to clarify
PM Harper's response to the IPCC report
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my allegience?
I'm all for cooperation, but putting up with Harper's trash talk all the time without calling bull**** once in a while makes me wonder why Jack isn't letting his spots show once in a while or if he has any spots to show at all.
The post is good becauase it calls a politician a funny name, states that politicians reacting to public opinion is a good (although surprising) thing, or because of the identification or other green things (I must say that if your scab is green it's likely infected).
Or possibly you are agreeing with the comment on how well the conservatives have swiftly move to address one of their weaknesses?
In my opinion Jack knows if he plays nice and and wins any concessions from the government on anything - environment, budget, anything. Then he can stand up come next election and say the NDP is relevent and plays nice with others while defending the everyday Canadian. If Harper were smart (and I think he is) he'll throw Jack that bone. And make sure everyone knows that the Liberals dropped the ball on the environment and it was the conservatives with the help of Jack and his crew to get it done. Should be worth a 5 point bump in the polls for the NDP, mostly at the expense of the Liberals.
And that sums up politics very nicely. Not at all about issues, only what they can do to look better than the "others". Focus time, money and energy on the "others" rather than putting that intellectual process to a good use...
Good because of your discernment of the situation and coming to an understanding around all the issues....As well as you pointing out the need for further discernment. ( ie.. green comment).
And at the same time maintaining your own perspective...
So I'll say, all of the above....
I hope I don't sound too vague...or insane....
why don't we stop screaming "hypocrit" at people and start either shutting up or suggesting a sensible solution?
I have suggested solutions, but to deaf ears here, so why bother attempting to enlighten the "lofty enlightend left" yet again. They are far better at criticising then actually formulating a plan of action.
Most of these hypocrits just need someone to bash and or blame. The Conservative Government seems to be the scape goat of the day. Although the Liberals had done nothing at all, while they were at the helm. But for gawds sake, don't tell that to a Liberal, it's either untrue, because they signed on to Kyoto, that's doing something. Puleeze.
No matter the political stripe, they all bend to the polls, it just annoys the hell out of me when I see the same old characters pointing boney fingures in one direction, while ignoring, justifying or excusing the lack of resolve or action of another. It is hypocracy, pure and simple.
That serves no purpose and certainly removes any crediblity from their position.
I don't think so!! I am pointing fingers at the ones who have been in power or are in power now - Libs and Cons - they both contributed to "denials" of global warming and none of them took action.
As for the NDP, I have chastised them lots recently - Jack Layton has been silent, and as national leader there is ample opportunity to give press conferances, etc..
Greens - I did not support them when they had a leader from the corporate culture. Now, I do, and Liz has been speaking out, she has a platform, and she has a plan to reduce our fossil fuels emissions too. Visit the website of the new Greens for more about their environment platform.
Here is a quote from May:
See? She is the only one who will finger the fossil fuels corporations and the government subsidies to these polluters and warmers of the globe.
i stand with Greens and May now, and yes we do have more than critisism to offer.
.... and the Hypogrits will get in and they have no regard for anything but clinging to power. Six of one and a half dozen of the other.
Can I mention the 3 out of 3 flops of Dipper gov't in BC? Can I mention Bob Rae?
I don't know much about Ontario under Bob Rae, but anything I did hear was negative. I know very little about SK and MB under the NDP but I can produce volumes about BC NDP's fiscal crap; the biggest single issue is the NDP habit of DOUBLING the provincial debt EVERY time they got in and , in fact, damned near bankrupted BC the last time.
Seems o me that he showed spots when Martin was beginning to lose his grip oon the PMO. Martin bribed Lenin and NDP to help him stay in and Lenin accepted the bribe.
In BC the NDP say they stand up for Joe average but what they REALLY stand up for is union power.
Nothing will stop the effects of GW. The gov't, whichever one is in, should bloody well step very cautiously when it is dealing with anything to do with the environment or it stands the chance of killing the economy by overreacting to GW. Remember we have only contributed a relatively small fracion to GW and it has been estimated by climatologists that if our effect stopped immediately, the difference in rate of climate change would only be something like 13% of 0.6° at the least and 13% of 3° at the most per year. And at the moment Canada doesn't contribute nearly as much as the States, Europe, or China.
I lived in BC through the Harcourt/Clark/Miller/Dosanjh years. They contributed to my belief that the best government is small government.