Plans For Iran

jimmoyer

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Actually you do make assumptions, Darkbeaver.

Not without cause, you are riding the current fashion
zeitgeist of all the sin in the world is based on
America.

Oh you have proof !!!

But your conclusions are debatable.

And like the General fighting the last war, you will
be the last one to predict where the next problem
originates.

Be happy in your crusade against The States.
Be happy about it. But no one has a monopoly on
evil, no matter how big they are.

In your tunnel vision on this matter, you are no
better than the rightwingers you condemn.
 

Gerald24

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Plan A Plan B hope we don't have to go to plan C. Who attacked America , I don't think it was the British or the Irish or I am quite`sure it wasn't the Canadians. It was Wacko Muslims and notice to all you Liberals that I used Wacko. So the last I looked the Iranians were not on the top of my list as normal Muslims , peaceful Muslims. I would have some plans in place myself if I knew a Country that wasn't playing with a full deck was aquiring Nuclear weapons. Why can't the Iranians act like the Saudi's take the money from the Oil and live like Kings.
 

darkbeaver

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Jimmoyer are you not the planets biggest military power?
Jimmoyer are you not now engaged in a war for oil resources?
Jimmoyer has your president not just finished saying that your country must lead the world.?
I have assumed nothing,every one of these points is a matter of public record.
 

Hank C

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jimmoyer said:
Actually if Russia or Iran was the biggest military power
you would have more to bellyache about.

And all are involved in manipulation of oil.

This evil knows no monopoly.

yes, but many people who are part of this new mentality do not see this. I have seen many "lefties" who when you mention America, they go nuts. But mention China, and it draws a vauge reaction. Yes people are going to scrutinize America more because it is much more visible "visible", however it does show ignorance.

I have read articles by feminist women which make me want to slam the fridge door on my head a few times. Many of them see America as the worst offenders of women, a country no better than the fundamentalist arab countries. Many activists also talk as if people who support traditional marriage are radical nuts who hate homosexuals. They attempt to make comparisons to radical muslisms in Iran who hang and torture homosexuals.
 

Hank C

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All I can say it that we could be in much worst shape with a superpower like China, Russia, or any of the Arab countries. Thank god its America.
 

PoisonPete2

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jimmoyer said:
I'm sorry Darkbeaver and PoisonPete2, I respectfully
disagree with your assumptions. I also believe both
of you are just as, if not more, foolhardy in your
outlook as our current crop of political leadership is
throughout the world.

RESPONSE : Just what assumptions :?: did I make?. And how can you say my outlook is 'foolhardy' when I made no disclosure of my outlook? Those who choose to disregard the Truth in favour of partisan propaganda chose ignorance.

"I was provided with additional input that was radically different from the truth. I assisted in furthering that version.” ~ Oliver North
 

darkbeaver

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Hank C said:
All I can say it that we could be in much worst shape with a superpower like China, Russia, or any of the Arab countries. Thank god its America.

Hank why don,t you run the stars and stripes up your pole, your clearly American, your dying to belong, nobody would shit on you if you did ya know. Get out of the closet Hank I for one would not respect you any less. :lol:
 

PoisonPete2

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Hank C said:
All I can say it that we could be in much worst shape with a superpower like China, Russia, or any of the Arab countries. Thank god its America.

RESPONSE: nobody ever got a choice of which superpower would dominate them. If given the choice I would call for 'none of the above'. I feel the slowly rising drumbeat of war in Canada now and it is very sad to see the Canadian 'fifth estate' taking up that mantra. Do not count China out of the Superpower jostling either. America will rattle sabres against China's sources of fossil fuel at their own peril.
 

jimmoyer

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I have read articles by feminist women which make me want to slam the fridge door on my head a few times.
--------------------------HankC---------------------------

LOL !!

I for one, have felt compelled to don my Gorilla costume
and ride around in a scooter until the cops arrest me !!
 

Hank C

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Re: RE: Plans For Iran

darkbeaver said:
Hank why don,t you run the stars and stripes up your pole, your clearly American, your dying to belong, nobody would shit on you if you did ya know. Get out of the closet Hank I for one would not respect you any less.

respect from darkbeaver........ :lol:

ahhh, I see you are the perfect subject to prove my point, seeing as how we are talking about people with "double standards". I am going to assume you are a Canadian who has been brainwashed to "hate America". Therefore you have decided to display the Venezuela flag. Now tell me seeing as how you are one of them people who is probably against Bush anti-terrorism measures, such as the NSA spying..... how do you find yourself in bed with Hugo Chavez...kinda hypocritical dont ya think. :roll:

or maybe you havent done the research on your savior yet....
 

Alberta'sfinest

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I only see two scenarios. The US makes a case and invades Iran most likely prompting WWIII, or the they do nothing and Iran is going to invade Israel and we'll see WWIII. There is no happy everyone wins scenario like you see in the movies. Anyone who is anyone has already accepted that the global economy is going to collapse in the next few years, and the world economy's recession is going to start this summer. I have full support for a full scale invasion of Iran. This will put us into war with China and Russia, but it was eventually going to happen anyways. People never ever listen to me, I predicted all of this 7 years ago and have been watching it play out like I've read the script. It's all just total bullshit to get us to except what needs to be done. Does anyone here know why the Germans started exterminating people in WWII. They didn't teach this in history class. It wasn't anti-semitism because they killed more than just Jews, Hitler just hated them a little extra so they were singled out. See, what the Nazi mathematicians realized was that eventually there would be an endless recession period that would become a permanent depression, and because the population was larger than what was sustainable while still having a functioning economy, some of the world had to be exterminated. The world was experiencing hyperinflation at that time which did seem to be terminal, so they simply mistook this for the predicted event. However, they didn't factor in the oil reserves found after this point which actually bought us more time and postponed the event. However, when the Nazi's were defeated, this knowledge was captured by the allies, and we have been planning for and expecting this scenario ever since. We new that we had only prolonged the event, but we decided to keep pushing forward. Here in Canada we've kept our population perfectly regulated at 32 million. Even though we are in a economic boom curently, we still won't allow any extra people to immigrate to raise our population and elleviate the low unemployment rates which are driving up labour costs and damaging industry. We had a sustainable population and we made sure we kept this so we wouldn't have to use extermination camps. Down in the US, the sustainable population estimate would be about 60-100 million. Do to the fact that this information is eventually going to be leaked by people like myself, they decided to build some concentration camps to round up dissenters and rioters who wish take advantage. The remaining people who support the wars that will need to be fought will be drafted, possibly as soon as this summer. Considering that most of the people that will be rioting and causing civil unrest will be the lowest denomination of people, it's likely these people will suffer the fate of the nazi concentration camp victims, a painless death by gas, and it's off to the furnaces. I suggest you don't riot and hope you don't get drafted. Why are they raisning an army, because of China and Russia, North Korea is nothing more than a blip on the radar in comparison to these two. And they hate us. Why, because communism was the other fix to the solution that the Germans discovered. With communism, a larger population could be sustained making the extermination unecessary. However, without the luxuries of life, and instead a situation of constant scarcity and shortages do to beaurocratic policy that was gaurenteed never to be effective on a large scale, we chose our route. See we never understood what the Nazi plan was, we did afterwards, and now it's our plan. So what you have to ask yourself is, do I want to live in a communist beaurocratic hell where we'll get food, a place to live, and not much more. Or, we can step up to the plate and wage the largest war possible to wipe out enough people to create a sustainable way of life and still keep our economy and the perks that go with it. The reason the US let it's population get so high, was really so that we'd have the forces necessary to carry out this task. The EU is also working on a similar plan, and the media is orchestrating the worlds largest PR campaign to to put the muslim world in a bad light. They have the oil that we need to carry out the war against Russia and China, and if we control it we'll be able to limit their abilitiy to use it against us. China has caused the price of steel to triple in the last few years. Do you know why? They are building a very big and modern naval fleet like they are planning for World War III, cause they are. They want to live like us one way or another. The last 60 years have been about jockying for position to create the greatest chance of success in WWIII. Nobody saw it coming accept a few select individuals, using the very same techniques that allowed the Nazi's to do the same thing. It's not even illegal to falsify the news, so it was actually quite easily orchestrated.
If you don't believe me, read I think not's post about how overpopulation stands in the way of a perfect utopia. Then read my post about the end of our way of life. Once you do, you'll see how everything I've just mentioned fits the puzzle exactly.
The real question you'll ask yourself is how the hell do I know all of this. The answer is actually hidden in the first post of this thread.
 

FiveParadox

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Well, I have had enough war conspiracy theories and paranoia for one night, Alberta'sfinest. In any event, if World War III were to spontaneously erupt, then I would certainly hope that Canada would opt out of any such war — there would be no purpose to such a war, in my opinion. I seriously doubt that the United States has been fattening up its population in order to fight in some pre-meditated third World War; I might not think that the Administration of the United States in the brightest bulb in the world stage's box of lightbulbs, but they're not conspirators do plunge the planet into self-destruction.
 

darkbeaver

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Yes they are fattening up thier population for war, they are constructing four permanent bases in Iraq FiveParadox,they have no intention of ever leaving the region.Ten years ago I was hanging with deep ecologists through them I got a phamflet it,s title was It,s Later Than You Think, it was about peak oil and eco-wars. We are beginning a period of global eco-wars.
 

Alberta'sfinest

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I'm not a conspiracy theorist, I'm actually far from it. I actually know about this because I'm part of one the most powerful families on this planet. I know truth, whether you wish to accept or acknowledge that truth is your perogitive, but it doesn't mean that it becomes a lie because you wish not to believe. This is the fundamental problem with most of mankind, they simply wish not to hear the truth when the lies are easier to swallow.

Here's some examples. 9/11 as terrible as this event was, it could have been stopped. However, the Bush administration needed a trigger point to build propaganda from to forfill their agenda. To ignore all of the mistakes that actually needed to happen that day is down right gullible. Air traffic controllers report a plane to NORAD when they fly off course by more than a couple miles if the pilot doesn't give them one hell of a good answer for their off course direction, a interceptor is on their wing to escort them down to the ground. This actually happened 6 times during 2001, and has never ever failed before. The US government didn't plan the attack, Al-queada did, but the US government had found their in to the middle east, so they let it happen and made sure it was spectacular. Terrorism is a concrete reason to get the public on side with just about anything. It worked for Hitler when he burned down the Reichstagg, and recent history shows that it even works to attack a country that aren't even terrorist as long as you label them as terrorists. People need a reason to make killing acceptable, and terrism is a good reason for most. They spent a lot of media time painting as much of a human face on it as possible so that viewers would relate to atleast one victim, and think to themselves, those people are just like my family and I. Emotions are rather irrational, and so are our actions during high emotion. Then irrational behavior seems like it's not innappropriate at all. How many Americans felt the urge to kill some muslims in the height of that emotion, a when the government decided to do just that it was supported because of the emotional situation and irrational thinking that was pandemic shortly after. Was Osama Bin Laden a evil man? Not really, he's actually an extremely smart and well educated man that was acting on what he fealt best for his people and followers.

Hurrican Katrina was little more than suspicious also. The US government needed numbers to calculate and estimate the fallout of a complete cut-off of infrastructure and essentials similar to the peak oil economic collapse scenarios. They most likely purposely smashed that barge into that levy, and then let the situation fester for a few days. This allowed people to lose hope and start creating civil unrest, which is what is going to happen in a matter of months. They did this to create ratios of how many people would be disobedient, or in other words, how many people will have to be arrested and detained to keep the nation from ripping itself apart during a period when orderly behavior will be key to success. It's hard to fight a international war and a civil war at the same time, it's easier to round up dissenters and contain them. Shortly after Katrina, they built detention camps throughout the US based on the information they gathered through the hurricane. The US government has also already been carrying out scenario arrests to practice for this event. I personally have a video on my computer where the Army storms a legal rave in the Utah desert arresting people who did nothing wrong. Most were detained only for a short period of time and released without being charged with anything. They were just practicing. If you do a search on US containment camps, you'll find many sources saying the same things. If you read the recently renewed patriot act, you'll find that by simply naming you a enemy combatant. There is no detailed description of what they consider an enemy combatant, they can now detain you indefinitely and strip you of all your rights, which pretty much allows them to treat you however they feel like treating you, without any evidence whatsoever. Better keep you nose clean.

In my opinion, I think Canada will stay out of major combat, mainly focusing on Defence of our precious resources which will be needed to fuel the US war machine. We've geared our military for this purpose, so it makes sense that this would be our most probable route. We do have a rather exstensive air force, so we might also take part in Air strikes during the war. It's rather hard to invade Canada as the granite in the rockies, and on the east coast destroys heavy vehicles without roads. The North is to cold in the winter and too soft in the summer for anything heavy travel. The only way in on the ground is through the US, but the entire US would just about have to fall for this to happen. The Air would be the only last option for any invading forces, but that's why we've built up a massive fighter interceptor fleet. Canada has literally become a fortress. Even all of our communications systems are designed to be nuclear weopon resistant. The CN tower is quite litterally a giant broadcasting tower that could withstand quite a large blast. This will allow for mass coordination efforts to mass evacuate and organize if this becomes the scenario, so that we can flee to the bunkers in the north as a last resort. The US plan in the scenario of a invasion is to nuke the land as the army falls back with low radiation nuclear weopons. Eventually if they retreat far enough their troops will join up with ours and we'll hold them off until we reach the north, and then blow away everything with tactical nukes. The nukes they plan to use have a relatively short half-life, and the radiation levels will be tolerable. Canadian scientists actually invented pills that increase our tolerance and lower our absorbtion of radiation, so we can emerge afterwards and rebuild, uneffected by the fallout. I'm very confident about our position and outlook for our nation.
 

darkbeaver

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albertasfinest said
"Eventually if they retreat far enough their troops will join up with ours and we'll hold them off until we reach the north, and then blow away everything with tactical nukes."

Alberta old boy, who are them?
 

darkbeaver

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albertasfinest said
"Eventually if they retreat far enough their troops will join up with ours and we'll hold them off until we reach the north, and then blow away everything with tactical nukes."

Alberta old boy, who are them? And why are you trying to warn us?
 

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I have my doubts about China and America getting into a shooting war. Tons of Chinese investment comes from the United States fuelling their economy. America and China export and import so much to each other that any sign of war would have disasterous effects on both their economies.

And with Russia. Modern Russia isn't the USSR of old. It's military is in shambles, corruption and crime are commonplace, Russia's in no place for a war.