Pierre Elliot Trudeau Love or Hated Him ?

TenPenny

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Thanks for the info Joey. Most people, not from the center of the universe, have never heard of Stratford


:roll:

There's a lovely B and B my wife and I stayed at, run by a couple of gay men who collect player pianos, every morning they'd bake doughnuts and muffins.

I've discovered that the best B and Bs are typically run by gay men.
 

Risus

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As for the $200 Billion federal dept the country inherited during Pierre Elliott Trudeau, looking at the conservative record presently, as we all know the federal dept today has reached to a WHAPPING $500 Billion. The red ink era is alive and well in Canada once again, thanks to the Tory bad economic management,

Are you implying that the Tories are running the world economy? Canada is in much better shape than the rest of the world economically, thanks to the Tories.

You haven't changed your tune a bit while you were away...
 

Cliffy

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Are you implying that the Tories are running the world economy? Canada is in much better shape than the rest of the world economically, thanks to the Tories.

You haven't changed your tune a bit while you were away...
The economy is in good shape because Paul Martin left it that way but Harpo has managed to put us in the red again. Are you wearing rose coloured glasses?
 

JLM

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Canada is in much better shape than the rest of the world economically, thanks to the Tories.

You are not being quite fair or accurate Risus. It was the Tories who left the Liberals with a debt in excess of $700 billion and it was Paul Martin of the Liberals who scraped and clawed his way back to about $450 billion. I don't fault Harper as he has much tougher economic times to contend with than the Liberals did, but he doesn't deserve all the credit either for our present financial position. Let's just say he's doing Okay considering and let it go at that.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Another reason we are doing comparatively OK is the stellar performance of Canadian banks. Just today BMO reported a healthy profit, up from last year. American banks needed huge bailouts, If our banks had been in the ditch like American banks were, the crises here probably would have been fully as bad as that in USA.
 

JLM

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"Another reason we are doing comparatively OK is the stellar performance of Canadian banks. Just today BMO reported a healthy profit, up from last year."- I'm not completely sure what that means. If the share holders are doing well, then that's good. If doing well just means C.E.O.s are stuffing their pockets that's bad.
 

Mowich

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Canada is in much better shape than the rest of the world economically, thanks to the Tories.

You are not being quite fair or accurate Risus. It was the Tories who left the Liberals with a debt in excess of $700 billion and it was Paul Martin of the Liberals who scraped and clawed his way back to about $450 billion. I don't fault Harper as he has much tougher economic times to contend with than the Liberals did, but he doesn't deserve all the credit either for our present financial position. Let's just say he's doing Okay considering and let it go at that.

Here, here JLM. I do agree with you.
 

Mowich

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My family was firmly in the Liberal camp when I was growing up, yet Dad thought Trudeau was a 'pansy' and it really pissed him off that he had to vote for a party that had chosen this 'fellow' as its leader.

I first got to see him during my teens when he came through Regina. I was smitten as was nearly every other teenage girl I knew. I thought he was soooo cool, suave, debonair and charming.

I am much older and wiser ;-) now, but I still give PET credit for many of the changes he brought while in power.

I don't hate him nor love him. I give credit where it is due.

But then, that's just my opinion.
 

SirJosephPorter

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"Another reason we are doing comparatively OK is the stellar performance of Canadian banks. Just today BMO reported a healthy profit, up from last year."- I'm not completely sure what that means. If the share holders are doing well, then that's good. If doing well just means C.E.O.s are stuffing their pockets that's bad.


When a company, any company does well, then both the share holders and the top management benefit from it, JLM.

And Canadian banks are doing fantastically well. During the meltdown, Canadian banks kept on making profit, if somewhat down from before. If BMO is any indication, looks like banks are on the roll once again.

So rest assured both stock holders and the top management are benefiting from Canadian banks. I remember I bought BMO last year, it was paying 10% dividend. Since then the stock price has gone up by more than 70%. That is the story of al the major Canadian banks.
 

Kreskin

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As one poster said earlier, Trudeau was a visionary. Most leaders go through the flavor of the day motions. He painted a much bigger picture. I believe Ronald Reagan did the same in the US. Both were able to convey something bigger than a political platform.
 

JLM

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As one poster said earlier, Trudeau was a visionary. Most leaders go through the flavor of the day motions. He painted a much bigger picture. I believe Ronald Reagan did the same in the US. Both were able to convey something bigger than a political platform.

A visionary or an hallucinary?
 

gerryh

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As one poster said earlier, Trudeau was a visionary. Most leaders go through the flavor of the day motions. He painted a much bigger picture. I believe Ronald Reagan did the same in the US. Both were able to convey something bigger than a political platform.

A visionary....something that is in very short supply these days, and a visionary is someone we very much need.
 

Kreskin

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A visionary....something that is in very short supply these days, and a visionary is someone we very much need.

Aside from maybe Tommy Douglas, no other leaders in our history are even remotely close to having his impact on Canada today.
 

Risus

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The economy is in good shape because Paul Martin left it that way but Harpo has managed to put us in the red again. Are you wearing rose coloured glasses?

I guess you are not aware of what has happened to the economy worldwide in the last year...
 

JLM

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I guess you are not aware of what has happened to the economy worldwide in the last year...

Everybody in the world is aware of the economy. Martin did do a stellar job of gettng our nose above water, albeit we were still in it up to our necks and now it's back up to our chin.