Pentagon video and audio is fake: Iranian TV

darkbeaver

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Just so typical of Americans, now the half of the country who have heard of Eyeran are convinced the Amererican Navy as been assaulted by heavily armed (possibly nukular) Eyerainyan torpedo attack boats manned by the Eyerainyan Republican Navy.
 

Pangloss

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Praxius, "I'd trust Iran over the US any friggin day of the week now."

That cannot be true. For one thing, Iran uses government news channels and the U.S. does not. We'll hear more evidence and the opinions of investigatos and experts if this matter has the least credibility.

The Gulf of Tonkin matter is fresh in the minds of two living generations. The administration will not open the coming war on Iran by claiming that American warships were imperilled by speed boats. So why even bother to fake the footage? The Iranian claim is not evidence because the Iranians have no integrity. The Americans held their fire. Maybe this is prelude to the next incident where they will not hold their fire.

Any conspiracy theorist worth his B.S. would know that this silly matter is hardly worth the phony pictures, but once faked, is worth some careers.

Just like so many cabinet members lost their jobs over the WMD lies?

C'mon, Bush is in his last year - if there was ever a time for him to do really evil and stupid things, it is now.

Pangloss
 

talloola

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``I'd trust Iran over the US any friggin day of the week now``


Just about everyone else also prefers to believe Iran than to believe anything the Bush regime has to say.

It makes you wonder when the hell is the rest of the world going to stop its stupid campaign of appeasement and finally stand up to terrorist Bush.

Iran is counting on all the people who won't 'ever' believe the U.S., it plays right into
their hands.
Each situation has to be judged on it's own, I don't like their tactics either, but that
doesn't mean that Iran is innocent, as they have their own insane tactics and
reasoning, as well.
 

Praxius

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"We are coming to you"

The US Navy radio operator instructs the boats to stay clear of the "coalition" ships.

Then the voice at the other end of the radio says:

"We will explore a few minutes".

It is the US Navy radio operator who replies "We will explode in a few minutes?" and that version of the transmission became so convenient to US authorities that it was adopted and never corrected, even though the audio tape was available for analysis and review.

This is clear to me, yet it seems that certain people do not want to hear it that way. They prefer the "explode" version, which suits them better. It falls in line with the White House Foreign policy whose goal is to attack Iran.

Bingo and another thing, I'd like to go back to those speed boats again.

When they captured the british, they were using these:


"A vessel approaches what appears to be a boat with British servicemen in this image taken from Iranian television. Iranian television released a few seconds of footage on Thursday, March 29, 2007."
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20070329/iran_banmoon_070329?s_name=&no_ads=

Why would they use these, more effective gun boats in this situation where the british were just on a merchant ship, but then use these speed boats against actual war ships?

It just doesn't make any sense, plain and simple.
 

Praxius

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Update:

Iran airs video of navy stand-off
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/7180567.stm

Iranian state-run TV has broadcast video it says shows a controversial naval stand-off between Revolutionary Guards patrols and US warships.


There is no sign of threatening behaviour by the Iranian boats, as alleged by US officials who said their actions were dangerous and provocative.

However, the four-minute clip does not appear to show the whole incident in the Strait of Hormuz on Sunday.

Iran accuses the US of faking video and audio evidence to support its claims.

"Coalition warship number 73 this is an Iranian patrol," the Iranian commander is heard to say in clear English in the footage, broadcast on Iran's English-language Press TV .

"This is coalition warship number 73. I am operating in international waters," comes the reply.

On Tuesday the US military released video and audio it said confirmed its allegation that Iranian speedboats harassed US warships and threatened to blow them up in a radio communication.

Iran described the incident as a routine contact which happens all the time in the crowded waters of the Gulf.

The confrontation has further inflamed tensions between arch-foes Iran and the United States.
US President George W Bush is currently on a tour of the Middle East which will tackle what the Americans see as the threat posed by Iran to regional stability.
 

jimshort19

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BBC, "There is no sign of threatening behaviour by the Iranian boats..."

Well, if you can't take a BBC newsperson's military threat assessment based on Iranian video, what kind of an expert do you want, a U.S. naval officer, on a warship, at a range of less than one mile?

To me, it looks like a speedboat speeding, but the waters are not so crowded that tiny patrol boats which would float in a puddle and can turn on a dime have to come within the threat threshold proximity range (or whatever the term is) of a very visible American warship in international waters.

Give a wide birth to enemy warships when waterskiing in your explosive vest. This is not a place for the harmless play of PWC's driven by the playboys of terrorism. When they come within the range of risk computed by that maximum quantity of high explosives that the boat can carry, plus maybe 200 meters, they should be blown out of the water. Such may well be the rules of engagement issued to the warship.