Patriot Act (US) -"permanant"
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Reverend Blair said:
Despite your exaggerations, you have valid points. We will turn them around, as we have done in the past.
RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
Wether it's permanent or only a little less than permament I would personally feel safer if Canada's landmass and people could simply be uprooted and plunked down somewhere else...say in the middle of the pacific.
Wether it's permanent or only a little less than permament I would personally feel safer if Canada's landmass and people could simply be uprooted and plunked down somewhere else...say in the middle of the pacific.
Not anymore. We were headed that way when our debt was so high though. The thing is that with our current trade situation, if it happens in the US it will happen here too.
You've shown no signs of that, ITN. In fact, you seem to be heading the other way.
RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
I used to have faith in the US, Jay...the people if not the politicians. Not anymore.
I used to have faith in the US, Jay...the people if not the politicians. Not anymore.
I think not said:
Hey, ITN, I saw a woman on TV today - just an ordinary American housewife, who shouted into the microphone of some news reporter: "We're not fighting a country. We're fighting terrorism."
I couldn't help but think that she hit the nail right on the head.
Just your average Joann - and she "gets it."
Bull Dog
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Yes, you've told us many time. Our founding fathers, so when did you stop having faith? Was it all over by 1777?
Reverend Blair said:
Yes, you've told us many time. Our founding fathers, so when did you stop having faith? Was it all over by 1777?
RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
Sarcasm will get everywhere, my little friend.
During the 1980's it became apparent that fewer and fewer Americans cared who ran their country or what happened as long as it it didn't have an immediate impact on them. It was the greed decade.
That improved a bit during the Clinton administration because there was some leadership being shown by a lot of non-governmental groups based in the US and they actually seemed to be having an effect, albeit a small one.
Not only are such people and groups having no effect under Bush, but it has become a popular passtime in the US to bash them, ostracise them, and attack them at every turn.
You have chosen, as a nation, that silencing dissent is easier than listening to and considering alternate opinions. Worse than that, the methods we first saw in the US are spreading to Canada both by Americans insisting their opinions are more valid than ours and the toadyism of some Canadians towards the Bush regime.
Sarcasm will get everywhere, my little friend.
During the 1980's it became apparent that fewer and fewer Americans cared who ran their country or what happened as long as it it didn't have an immediate impact on them. It was the greed decade.
That improved a bit during the Clinton administration because there was some leadership being shown by a lot of non-governmental groups based in the US and they actually seemed to be having an effect, albeit a small one.
Not only are such people and groups having no effect under Bush, but it has become a popular passtime in the US to bash them, ostracise them, and attack them at every turn.
You have chosen, as a nation, that silencing dissent is easier than listening to and considering alternate opinions. Worse than that, the methods we first saw in the US are spreading to Canada both by Americans insisting their opinions are more valid than ours and the toadyism of some Canadians towards the Bush regime.
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What a quaint homily Reverend.
Where did you get all that information? More magic? Announcements coming through your chimney?
You are so far out of touch with what you perceive is American thought and opinion, you should write a novel - a fictional novel about a mislead Canadian who thought he understood what never came to be.
I am so grateful for the internet to allow us to see all sides of issues so we don't have to settle for the information you are obviously locked into, expecting everyone to believe your little vignettes without question.
Nice thing about the democratic process, we are allowed to question all things placed before us. But you can't win em all eh?
Reverend Blair said:
What a quaint homily Reverend.
Where did you get all that information? More magic? Announcements coming through your chimney?
You are so far out of touch with what you perceive is American thought and opinion, you should write a novel - a fictional novel about a mislead Canadian who thought he understood what never came to be.
I am so grateful for the internet to allow us to see all sides of issues so we don't have to settle for the information you are obviously locked into, expecting everyone to believe your little vignettes without question.
Nice thing about the democratic process, we are allowed to question all things placed before us. But you can't win em all eh?
vignettes now thats an interesting word?? where did you say you were from?? Again, you presume that the rev has influence over what we think, insulting really, are you saying that we do not think for ourselves??? I am not warning you again, you make your points without insulting the rev and trying to incite him.
Why don't you just go play with your friends over at the Roost and leave us alone WC :x Or is getting lame over there seeing as ya have about 30 members who all think the same way like a bunch of F :twisted: cking robots 
RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
I think I should explain the magic thing, since WC keeps bringing it up out of context.
See, I made a reference to magic in a post on another thread. I was referring to shooting pool. What I said was,
I didn't clarify it, and I guess I should have because I should know by now that people will take whatever they can out of context. I wasn't referring to magic in the Harry Potter/Jesus raising Lazarus way. I was referring to magic in the sleight of hand way.
Pool is like that, you see. Knowing that a certain cushion on a certain table bounces a certain way if you hit it in a certain place gives you a certain advantage. Being able to control the english you put on the cue ball makes it do things that people without a grasp of what I referred to as "magic" cannot understand.
Anyway, I just thought I'd explain because I was being taken out of context and thought you might all have not seen the other post or understood the reference.
I think I should explain the magic thing, since WC keeps bringing it up out of context.
See, I made a reference to magic in a post on another thread. I was referring to shooting pool. What I said was,
I didn't clarify it, and I guess I should have because I should know by now that people will take whatever they can out of context. I wasn't referring to magic in the Harry Potter/Jesus raising Lazarus way. I was referring to magic in the sleight of hand way.
Pool is like that, you see. Knowing that a certain cushion on a certain table bounces a certain way if you hit it in a certain place gives you a certain advantage. Being able to control the english you put on the cue ball makes it do things that people without a grasp of what I referred to as "magic" cannot understand.
Anyway, I just thought I'd explain because I was being taken out of context and thought you might all have not seen the other post or understood the reference.
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WC: with due respect, but posts like this are considered PERSONAL attacks. This is attacking the character of a poster , whom you not only do not know, but offend in a public medium like this. It is distracting from the substance of the discussion.
If your opinion differs......great , let's hear your opinion about the TOPIC.......but anything that comes close to poster bashing is not called for. (IMHO)
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"we now return to our regular programing, :violent1: regrets for the interruption." BEEP :wink:
Wednesday's Child said:
WC: with due respect, but posts like this are considered PERSONAL attacks. This is attacking the character of a poster , whom you not only do not know, but offend in a public medium like this. It is distracting from the substance of the discussion.
If your opinion differs......great , let's hear your opinion about the TOPIC.......but anything that comes close to poster bashing is not called for. (IMHO)
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"we now return to our regular programing, :violent1: regrets for the interruption." BEEP :wink:
I think not said:
Hope so. Seems though ,that the current situation is a tad more extreme from any in the past. Kinda reminds one of a giant ocean liner adrift , in a major storm,(divisiveness, antagonism from the outside, antagonism and aggression .infighting on the inside ) having sustained some leaks. The captain of said liner is too stubborn and narrow minded in fullfilling his own path/objectives/agenda to listen to any of the warnings that are so loud and clear. So he "stays the course" The fog is blinding him and his immediate crew as they don't even realize how much trouble they have caused and continue to cause. Same captain, who is a known tosspot , changed his addiction from the spirits to power.-- with a dose of that good ol' fashioned "religion".
(IMHO)
Ocean Breeze said:
If it were as bad as any of you have described, the US would be going through another civil war. And make no mistake if you think we would shy away from it. Exaggerations are meant to serve political agendas and are almost never accurate.
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A civil war generally requires a single polarising issue even if there are a myriad of underlying issues, ITN. It also takes people willing to go to war. In your last Civil War it was slavery and the South was willing to fight.
There isn't, at least so far, such an issue in your country. The Iraq war could be considered close to one, but peace activists are not generally prone to picking up guns.
The two things most likely to cause civil war in your current situation are economics (check out the statistics for what happens when the gap between rich an poor becomes too great), and religion.
Your country is presently, in many ways, more polarised than it was during the 1960's. That polarisation is more geographically based than age based this time which, combined with your leaders' insistence on keeping protesters in cages, has kept violent demonstrations to a minimum.
I wouldn't count on that holding if I were you.
A civil war generally requires a single polarising issue even if there are a myriad of underlying issues, ITN. It also takes people willing to go to war. In your last Civil War it was slavery and the South was willing to fight.
There isn't, at least so far, such an issue in your country. The Iraq war could be considered close to one, but peace activists are not generally prone to picking up guns.
The two things most likely to cause civil war in your current situation are economics (check out the statistics for what happens when the gap between rich an poor becomes too great), and religion.
Your country is presently, in many ways, more polarised than it was during the 1960's. That polarisation is more geographically based than age based this time which, combined with your leaders' insistence on keeping protesters in cages, has kept violent demonstrations to a minimum.
I wouldn't count on that holding if I were you.