Passengers on grounded Arctic cruise ship to fly out, ice and weather permitting

petros

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NRCan, CGS and Shell are working together to finally chart the Arctic sea floor in extreme detail. Slow going with all the damn sea ice.
 

Curious Cdn

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Except for the sea-ice that prevented any immediate response.... Pretty much ice free except for that ice, eh?

It couldn't have been pack ice or the ship wouldn't have been able to get to a shore to run aground upon.

... but you're a clever guy and you must have already figured that part out. If you can't get there because of the ice, you can't get there because of the ice.
 

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It's the height of summer at the moment so of course the ice is in seasonal retreat.


Ummm..Duh!
 

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It couldn't have been pack ice or the ship wouldn't have been able to get to a shore to run aground upon.

... but you're a clever guy and you must have already figured that part out. If you can't get there because of the ice, you can't get there because of the ice.


Well, you can appreciate all of the confusion as we've had an ice free North since 2013..... Just seems a little odd that sea ice would have had such a major impact when in fact, it hasn't existed since 2013
 

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Well, you can appreciate all of the confusion as we've had an ice free North since 2013..... Just seems a little odd that sea ice would have had such a major impact when in fact, it hasn't existed since 2013

Cruise ships are going where they never could before and they are also getting into trouble. The rest of your babble is just the same old, same old meme mantra.
 

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Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound, Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern. REGARDS, NORDREG CANADA 181256UTC\LR
 

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I was there this AM I'll be there in a few hours the same old ship can be seen through the windows since it's been there for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Roch_(ship)

Now why don't you STFU?!
I know I have been there . Did you wave at Trevor on your way by .

I was there this AM I'll be there in a few hours the same old ship can be seen through the windows since it's been there for decades.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Roch_(ship)

Now why don't you STFU?!
I know I have been there . Did you wave at Trevor on your way by . Looking at the chart I may be incorrect about Ceperley Point .
 

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I know I have been there . Did you wave at Trevor on your way by .


I know I have been there . Did you wave at Trevor on your way by . Looking at the chart I may be incorrect about Ceperley Point .
And notice I didn’t have to tell you to STFU . Thin skin .
 

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Due to heavier than normal ice concentrations in the Canadian arctic waters north of 70 degrees, the Canadian Coast Guard, recommends that pleasure craft do not navigate in the Beaufort Sea, Barrow, Peel Sound, Franklin Strait and Prince Regent. CCG icebreakers cannot safely escort pleasure craft. Operators of pleasure craft considering a northwest passage should also consider the risk of having to winter in a safe haven in the Arctic, or in the case of an emergency, be evacuated from beset vessels. Safety of mariners is our primary concern. REGARDS, NORDREG CANADA 181256UTC\LR

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/sea-ice-warm-layer-1.4803195
 

petros

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If ifs and buts were fruit and nuts you'd be without kibble all Christmas.

Why wouldn't the deeper, denser, higher salinity water be warmer than the freshwater atop?

It's how the Israel makes green power from super heated brine capped with freshwater in the Dead Sea basin.
 

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If ifs and buts were fruit and nuts you'd be without kibble all Christmas.

Why wouldn't the deeper, denser, higher salinity water be warmer than the freshwater atop?

It's how the Israel makes green power from super heated brine capped with freshwater in the Dead Sea basin.

It's why the course of the Gulf Stream is slowly creeping westward as the higher salinity outflow through Gibraltar from the progressively hotter Mediterranean pushes it that way. The result is a cooler Northwestern Europe and a warmer Greenland.
 

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It's why the course of the Gulf Stream is slowly creeping westward as the higher salinity outflow through Gibraltar from the progressively hotter Mediterranean pushes it that way. The result is a cooler Northwestern Europe and a warmer Greenland.

Science fiction.
 

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The link covers the GOM rather than the Med Sea.

The strong red current that comes out of the GOM is where the underwater wind rams should be located and where it breaks up you would need bigger props to deliver the same power and fluctuations would be bigger. The blue line is also an area that is low in O2 content and it is the closest thing to a trench there is so that is the 'dump' for the harmful products a society produces as it uses energy to build new things.


Water coming down from the UK is cold and the current is at the bottom rather than the top so if it flows past the Med it could create a vacume and that would increase the outflow if it was not a big pond. More rainfall in the watershed area that feeds the pond would push water out and it would be warmer than the water coming from melted sea ice. That would mean it has a few less degrees to go before it can start creating hurricane like storms so by the time the reach land they are stronger than normal.

An ice age could see an altitude of about 2000ft be a dividing line where above that mark things get colder and below that line things get hotter. Rain falls as snow at that level and higher is colder and the ocean level would be where it was the hottest.

Drop the ocean by 400ft and how much would that change the salt content when it is a global drop?

Science fiction. All conjecture, would, could, might, and may fill this article.
The link that shows that is where?

BTW, anybody catch the article where another ship has been trapped by ice? I'll look for the link if I have to.
 

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The link covers the GOM rather than the Med Sea.

The strong red current that comes out of the GOM is where the underwater wind rams should be located and where it breaks up you would need bigger props to deliver the same power and fluctuations would be bigger. The blue line is also an area that is low in O2 content and it is the closest thing to a trench there is so that is the 'dump' for the harmful products a society produces as it uses energy to build new things.


Water coming down from the UK is cold and the current is at the bottom rather than the top so if it flows past the Med it could create a vacume and that would increase the outflow if it was not a big pond. More rainfall in the watershed area that feeds the pond would push water out and it would be warmer than the water coming from melted sea ice. That would mean it has a few less degrees to go before it can start creating hurricane like storms so by the time the reach land they are stronger than normal.

An ice age could see an altitude of about 2000ft be a dividing line where above that mark things get colder and below that line things get hotter. Rain falls as snow at that level and higher is colder and the ocean level would be where it was the hottest.

Drop the ocean by 400ft and how much would that change the salt content when it is a global drop?


The link that shows that is where?
It's a big conspiracy aimed at the Alt Reich.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/north/canada-icebergs-shrinking-study-1.4749889