Palin in 2012

ironsides

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You're saying that Palin did away with her state security detail when she was Governor?

And also that 25% of Alaska's energy use is from renewable sources?
Security detail - That is what they said happened.


Gov. Sarah Palin has crossed swords with conservation groups over petroleum drilling, but she earned nothing but praise Friday after announcing the most ambitious renewable energy goals in the nation. At a news conference announcing her statewide energy plan, Palin called for 50 percent of Alaska's power to be generated by renewable resources by 2025.

http://www.adn.com/2009/01/16/657216/palin-unveils-state-energy-goals.html




If she were in power today, would it have happened?
 

TenPenny

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That's pretty impressive, 24% from renewable sources. Not that it has anything to do with Palin, but it's still pretty impressive.

I'm not sure what the story is on the security detail, though; for certain, she had one, so I don't know why people claim she did away with it.

September 03, 2008

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Guest Blogger: Anthony Williams
I am not entirely sure who will be reading this, but Governor Palin has asked me to contribute an entry to this forum. My name is Anthony Williams, and for the past two years I have served as a member of Governor Palin's security detail. In this capacity I have been responsible for providing close protection, advance team planning and, more recently, coordinating the transition of Governor Palin's protection to the Secret Service. Governor Palin has asked me to also mention that I am an African American.
 

ironsides

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"Pork" is notoriously relative. Every supposed example of pork has a story of a somewhat noble politician just wanting some money for a needed project for his or her district/state. Even your previous example of Sen. Byrd is like that. I'm sure those West Virginians really appreciate all the funding he brought home to the state.

The Bridge to Nowhere is arguably the single most egregious example of pork in US history. It was used as a talking point by politicians and watchdog organizations for years. And yet, Palin once supported it. Your description of Palin as some great fiscal conservative and pork eliminator needs to be more rounded with this information.


Here is what the new Republicans want to do, Senator LeMieux has been in office for a couple of years.:

Should Congress ban earmarks? LeMieux says `yes'



By William Gibson November 11, 2010 11:55 AM
Florida Senator George LeMieux urged fellow Republicans on Thursday to ban the use of earmarks, which have been used through recent history to pay for local pet projects.
Senate Republicans are preparing to vote on Tuesday on a proposed rule to impose the ban. Many Democrats say earmarks are necessary to serve local needs.

Florida Politics | Sun Sentinel blog | Should Congress ban earmarks? LeMieux says `yes'
 

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Here is what the new Republicans want to do, Senator LeMieux has been in office for a couple of years.:

Should Congress ban earmarks? LeMieux says `yes'



By William Gibson November 11, 2010 11:55 AM
Florida Senator George LeMieux urged fellow Republicans on Thursday to ban the use of earmarks, which have been used through recent history to pay for local pet projects.
Senate Republicans are preparing to vote on Tuesday on a proposed rule to impose the ban. Many Democrats say earmarks are necessary to serve local needs.

Florida Politics | Sun Sentinel blog | Should Congress ban earmarks? LeMieux says `yes'


LeMieux is, of course, not even going to be in the Senate next Congress, and a Senate Republican ban on earmarks isn't going to be that important since the Republicans are still going to be in the minority in the Senate. It will give Democratic Senators even more of a say-so in the annual appropriations process than they already have.

I honestly don't believe it's realistic to ban all earmarks, especially not when you are in the minority in one of the chambers (which is what the Congressional Republicans want to do, and are). When the annual appropriations process begins, are the majority House Republicans going to exclude all earmarks from the House version, while the majority Senate Democrats are going to include them? And then, when the two chambers try to iron out the differences between the bills, will the House Republicans just not accept any of the Senate Democrats' earmarks?

I'm guessing the House Republicans will cave, and approve at least some of the Senate's earmarks. They may even make up some excuse about them only controlling one chamber and therefore not being responsible for it, but naturally they will be because the House will still have to vote on the House-Senate compromise.
 

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Ban earmarks?

Funny how these became an issue only after hundreds of billions in tax dollars were given away to the Republican interests. Naturally, now that a Democrat is in the White House they are banned in the interest of saving money. No surprise when you think of it.
 

ironsides

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Actually this banning of earmarks was thought of long before the results of the election were known. Both sides were guilty of it, and now that budgets have to be cut it seems like a good cause to back for a while. It has only become a topic because Tea Party inspired Republicans are railing against incumbents who used earmarks. President Obama was against them from the start. (one positive thing for him :) .

LeMieux is, of course, not even going to be in the Senate next Congress, and a Senate Republican ban on earmarks isn't going to be that important since the Republicans are still going to be in the minority in the Senate.
"LeMieux is, of course, not even going to be in the Senate next Congress" Now I know of LeMieux saying he would only serve one term, but now that Charlie Crist is out of politics think he will run in 2012? He is popular down here. By the way, I think your right some earmarks will be passed, some very large ones.
 

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So, how about the hour long campaign ads running on TLC? Is that a product of the 'liberal media'??

Hey, the show kicks the **** out of the little known and watched John McCains Arizona....watching John lounging around his pool in a speedo, sipping margaritas.....I think it was on the horror channel.
 

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Palin was campaigning for Vice President - not running against Obama in the last election

I hope she reconsiders a bid for President, not because I believe she would not qualify but because at the present time there is far too much "side baggage" from the VP campaign which would all be dragged out for a rerun - and we would rarely get to hear any good campaigning.

If anyone is going to run against Obama next time, I hope Bobby Jindal will give it a try - he was asked before but he had a few "water problems" in his State - not to mention the Oil recently - and he still finished
up with a balanced budget - the guy is a quiet revolution and I hope it will happen soon. He is so fair I often forget which party he actually represents.

WASHINGTON: Bobby Jindal , the Indian origin Governor of Louisiana, has claimed that he is not interested in running for president in 2012.

Jindal, a rising star selected by the GOP to give the party's response to US President Barack Obama's February 2009 address to Congress , has said that the only race he is interested in is the one to keep his own job.

"I'm not being coy at all. I'm not running for president in 2012. Period. No ifs, ands or buts, no caveats. We have made great progress in Louisiana, but we've got a lot more work to do," Politico quoted Jindal, as saying.

Jindal has been touring the country promoting his book "Leadership and Crisis," in which he focuses on Republican policy and talks about what he called a "lackadaisical" response from the Obama administration to the Gulf oil spill.

According to Jindal, on Obama's first trip to Louisiana after the disaster, the President took him aside on the tarmac after arriving to complain about a letter that he had sent to the administration requesting authorization for food stamps for those who had lost their jobs because of the spill, the report said.

As Jindal describes it in his book, the letter was entirely routine, yet Obama was angry and concerned about looking bad.

"Careful," he quotes Obama as warning him, "this is going to get bad for everyone."

After losing his first bid for the governorship in 2003 and then serving two terms in Congress, Jindal has enjoyed wide popularity since winning the governor's mansion in his native Baton Rouge in 2007.
 
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ironsides

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This is good news actually. If we get Palin vs. Obama Part Deux, Palin will have the soccer-mom vote, but it will be an easy win for Obama.

May not be a easy win for Obama, he is still sinking himself with his arrogance and of course having the same old people around him. (you know the wrinkled witch and Harold Weed) little lisp there. :)



Palin was campaigning for Vice President - not running against Obama in the last election

I hope she reconsiders a bid for President, not because I believe she would not qualify but because at the present time there is far too much "side baggage" from the VP campaign which would all be dragged out for a rerun - and we would rarely get to hear any good campaigning.

If anyone is going to run against Obama next time, I hope Bobby Jindal will give it a try - he was asked before but he had a few "water problems" in his State - not to mention the Oil recently - and he still finished
up with a balanced budget - the guy is a quiet revolution and I hope it will happen soon. He is so fair I often forget which party he actually represents.

I agree with you 100% at this time, he has shown spunk.
 

Curiosity

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Ironsides

I'm gonna have to go with whichever candidate has some serious plans to bail the nation out of its debt and financial commitments it cannot keep.

The U.S. is being bartered out to the world and unless a nation is self-sustaining with all its people fed, housed, educated, with available medical and work anticipation ahead, we might as well separate into small nations like Europe and fight each other for dominance.

Over the top opinion but since I have become a citizen I've watched the place sell itself out to any bidder - not even the highest one - like a tired old hooker.....(now that I'm a citizen I can say stuff like that haha.)

Politics has become the crime world of the innocent people and there are very few who would not turn on a dime to become "famous" even for four years - because we have handlers with our future at their disposal and it doesn't look good - and I'm not talking about American "handlers" - I'm speaking of those few internationals who want the U.S. to bend over and give in.

Get the military offshore helping other nations, reduce the financial world to rubble and you have a great opportunity for conquering even a huge piece of land - especially if the people are hungry, sick and out of work.

We can no longer afford NATO, United Nations, even UNICEF, offshore military intervention and assistance (sorry middle east), we can't even fend off Mexican
thugs bringing in drugs to dull our pain while taking the scarce financial purses.

I don't belong to a particular party - but I think I am becoming an isolationist (on a temporary basis) until the U.S. pulls up its trousers again.
 

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''I don't belong to a particular party - but I think I am becoming an isolationist (on a temporary basis) until the U.S. pulls up its trousers again.''

No party affiliation for me and am a long standing believer in isolationism in compliance with the teachings of our Founding Fathers.

"I sincerely join... in abjuring all political connection with every foreign power; and though I cordially wish well to the progress of liberty in all nations, and would forever give it the weight of our countenance, yet they are not to be touched without contamination from their other bad principles. Commerce with all nations, alliance with none, should be our motto."


--Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Lomax, 1799


"Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations--entangling alliances with none, I deem [one of] the essential principles of our government, and consequently [one of] those which ought to shape its administration."


--Thomas Jefferson


President Washington's warning against foreign entanglements:

"George Washington's Farewell Address">


"Of all the enemies of true liberty, war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other ... "War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few. In war, too, the discretionary power of the executive is extended; its influence in dealing out offices, honors and emoluments is multiplied; and all the means of seducing the minds are added to those of subduing the force, of the people. ... No nation can preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare ... "War is in fact the true nurse of executive aggrandizement. In war, a physical force is to be created; and it is the executive will which is to direct it. In war, the public treasuries are to be unlocked; and it is the executive hand which is to dispense them. In war, the honors and emoluments of office are to be multiplied; and it is the executive patronage under which they are to be enjoyed; and it is the executive brow they are to encircle. The strongest passions and most dangerous weaknesses of the human breast, ambition, avarice, vanity, the honorable or venal love of fame, are all in conspiracy against the desire and duty of peace."

President James Madison


Contrary to the ideas of today's Republicans, these are the beliefs that make you a TRUE American.
 

YukonJack

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Any way you slice it, Obama is nothing more (but definitely less) than a poor Jimmy Carter #2.

The parents of those who think that Obama is God ridiculed Ronald Reagan as an "amiable dunce". We all know how far that got them.

History has a habit of repeating itself.