Palin in 2012

[YukonJack]

"If the Republicans want to win in 2012, they cannot run Sarah Palin plain and simple."

The Republicans MUST have learned in 1996 (obviously NOT) and in 2008 (obviously) that you can not run war heroes who happened to be OLD against empty suits, who happen to be younger..

 

[YukonJack]

bizzymum gave a pathetic imitation of Alec Baldwin, thus:

"All I have to say is that if she and McCain had won this past election, I would have just sold everything and left the country as a refugee and if she is for 2012 I hope all my paperwork is finished with immigration by then. I already planned to leave, but a lot of my American coworkers all stated they would jump ship to Australia. They think Canada is too cold."

After TWO elections of Bush, Mr. Baldwin still enjoys the contry he loves to besmirch. bizzymum can't be anything less (or more) than Baldwin.

Promises, promises!!

 

[ironsides]

I really do not believe that they would be that dumb. The Republicans have got to come up with some new people, or relinquish themselves to a totally different party. Sarah Palin has had her shot at stardom.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

All I have to say is that if she and McCain had won this past election, I would have just sold everything and left the country as a refugee and if she is for 2012 I hope all my paperwork is finished with immigration by then. I already planned to leave, but a lot of my American coworkers all stated they would jump ship to Australia. They think Canada is too cold.

bizzymum, Australia is a very good place to live (I have visited it twice), with very high quality of life. Australia would be my second choice to live, next only to Canada. The only disadvantage of Australia (apart from the fact that it is not my home country) is that standard of living there is lower than in Canada (although it is still very high).

When we were living in Britain, we were thinking of returning to Canada in 1986. At that time, we also had permission to immigrate to Australia, as permanent immigrants. But the wife put her foot down, she wanted to come home. Besides, she pointed out that we don’t have any relatives in Australia.

Anyway, we only had immigration visas to Australia, I didn’t’ have a job. But then I got a good job here in Canada, so that made the decision very easy, we returned to Canada.

But in 1986, we were seriously considering emigrating to Australia. So Australia is a great place in my opinion. Only thing is that it is isolated and if somebody is from North America, he generally wouldn’t have any relatives in Australia.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

And that is how you win friends and influence people.

No doubt he has read Dale Carnegie’s book ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People.’

 

[SirJosephPorter]

With their attitude, yup it sure is. Problem is they will be back.

You mean if somebody emigrates from USA to Canada or Australia they will be back? Why, what is the sense in that?

I can understand somebody from Somalia or Zimbabwe wanting to emigrate to USA, but somebody from Canada or Australia? I suppose there would be a few for whom money is absolutely everything (no doubt you would earn more in USA compared to Canada or Australia).

But if somebody leaves USA because he/she is dissatisfied with the quality of life there, believe me, there is no way they will be back.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

I am not a eco-animal hating dim wit who has poor grammar and thinks it is "cute" to wink during a debate. BTW, if you knew the people I work with, they WON'T be back. So, the swinging door will not be an issue.

Bizzymum, when Bush won the second term, many liberals were thinking of leaving USA, emigrating to Canada. They decided to stay on. Bush was a Fundamentalist Christian, he belonged to religious right (he himself said so). During his eight years, USA had moved considerably towards a religious Theocracy.

If McCain/Joan of Arc had won, there may well have been exodus of liberals from USA, to Canada and/or Australia. They wouldn’t be happy living in a conservative, religious Theocracy.

 

[ironsides]

No doubt he has read Dale Carnegie’s book ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People.’

Cover to cover, then rewrote it. As was mentioned before, still waiting for Alec Baldwin, Susan Sarandon, Barbara Streisand and a few others to leave. One thing you can count on from the left, and that is they never follow thru with what they say.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

"Surely to God, you've noticed that YUKON JACK has been attacking Obama. :lol::lol::lol:"

Is pointing out facts, obvious to anyone but the hopelessly blind, ATTACKING?

Pointing out facts as you see it, YJ. In my opinion, anything that is taken from extreme right wing websites such as WorldNetDaily, TownHall, HumanEvents etc, is highly questionable. So yes, it is attacking, because the ‘facts’ are many times nonsense (most of the stuff reported by the extreme right wing website is nonsense).

 

[ironsides]

Quality of life, now that is a whole other topic. Quality of life in Canada - To Cold, lots of water. Quality of life in Australia - To Hot, not enough water. Quality of life in U.S. - Cold to Hot, enough water at the moment.

Won't even go into political variations, not really that different to debate.

 

[YukonJack]

SirJosephPorter, in his inimitable style, dismisseed my post thus:

"Pointing out facts as you see it, YJ. In my opinion, anything that is taken from extreme right wing websites such as WorldNetDaily, TownHall, HumanEvents etc, is highly questionable. So yes, it is attacking, because the ‘facts’ are many times nonsense (most of the stuff reported by the extreme right wing website is nonsense)."

How he came to the conclusion that I echo the publicatons he so derivisevely refers to, I know not.

Unlike him who proudly declares ignorance by dismissing any poll that does not support his views; admitting that he never listens to any talk radio; confessing that he is too high and mighty to watch FOXNews, I read the Toronto Star, the Washington Post and other American papers online, I watch CNN and that nest of vitriolic hatred, MSNBC, I DO NOT get all my information from one side only, like he does.

My "attacks" on the most unprepared, least qualified President EVER pale in comparison to his unfounded and baseless REAL attacks and tasteless sarcasm on any political figure on the right.

 

[JLM]

No doubt he has read Dale Carnegie’s book ‘How to Win Friends and Influence People.’

One of the better non fiction books in print.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Quality of life, now that is a whole other topic. Quality of life in Canada - To Cold, lots of water. Quality of life in Australia - To Hot, not enough water. Quality of life in U.S. - Cold to Hot, enough water at the moment.

Won't even go into political variations, not really that different to debate.

According to UN rankings (for quality of life), Canada and Australia almost invariably rank near the top of the list, US is generally well below both of them.

I have lived in USA for 7-8 years. In 1986 when I was looking around, I didn’t even consider USA. It was between Australia (where we had immigration but no job), Britain (I had just got a much better, well paying job, was considering whether to take it) or Canada (where I had a job).

USA did not come into it at all. From my experience, I knew that quality of life would be much better in Canada, Australia or even Britain (though it would be close between Britain and USA, considering that there is a big difference between the standard of living of the two countries, or at least was in 1986), rather than USA

 

[ironsides]

According to UN rankings (for quality of life), Canada and Australia almost invariably rank near the top of the list, US is generally well below both of them.

I have lived in USA for 7-8 years. In 1986 when I was looking around, I didn’t even consider USA. It was between Australia (where we had immigration but no job), Britain (I had just got a much better, well paying job, was considering whether to take it) or Canada (where I had a job).

USA did not come into it at all. From my experience, I knew that quality of life would be much better in Canada, Australia or even Britain (though it would be close between Britain and USA, considering that there is a big difference between the standard of living of the two countries, or at least was in 1986), rather than USA

What exactly is quality of life? Forget how the UN ranks countries, I've been to the ones in question also. I found not much difference between the U.S. and Canada. Australia was as I mentioned really to hot, and no jobs. Never even considered living in Great Briton, but If given a choice, I would have liked to have lived in New Zealand, perfect climate and nice people, but circumstance which really make decisions for us kept me here. What my family could or couldn't do did was a major choice why I chose to stay in the U.S., if we had moved to Canada it wouldn't have been a tramatic change for any of us. Bottom line is that at my age now, I would still be in Florida nice and warm. Politics by the way never really came into play when I considered quality of life, was never a problem.

 

[TenPenny]

Is pointing out facts, obvious to anyone but the hopelessly blind, ATTACKING?

You seem to think it's so when ex-gilf Palin is the subject.

 

[YukonJack]

What in the Heck is "EX-GILF"?

 

[bizzymum]

bizzymum gave a pathetic imitation of Alec Baldwin, thus:

"All I have to say is that if she and McCain had won this past election, I would have just sold everything and left the country as a refugee and if she is for 2012 I hope all my paperwork is finished with immigration by then. I already planned to leave, but a lot of my American coworkers all stated they would jump ship to Australia. They think Canada is too cold."

After TWO elections of Bush, Mr. Baldwin still enjoys the contry he loves to besmirch. bizzymum can't be anything less (or more) than Baldwin.

Promises, promises!!

Actually i have my responsibility to my children to have them finish their schooling. Now that they are graduating HS and I have more experience in nursing, I am more able to make that move. Again responsibility; I want to immigrate to Canada able to support myself and my family properly. So Yukonjack, you don't know what you are talking about because you don't know my circumstances. Alec Baldwin has the means to move anywhere, but unfortunately nurses are not millionaires. So there.

 

[bizzymum]

Bizzymum, when Bush won the second term, many liberals were thinking of leaving USA, emigrating to Canada. They decided to stay on. Bush was a Fundamentalist Christian, he belonged to religious right (he himself said so). During his eight years, USA had moved considerably towards a religious Theocracy.

If McCain/Joan of Arc had won, there may well have been exodus of liberals from USA, to Canada and/or Australia. They wouldn’t be happy living in a conservative, religious Theocracy.

Well said, SJP!

 

[bizzymum]

bizzymum, Australia is a very good place to live (I have visited it twice), with very high quality of life. Australia would be my second choice to live, next only to Canada. The only disadvantage of Australia (apart from the fact that it is not my home country) is that standard of living there is lower than in Canada (although it is still very high).

When we were living in Britain, we were thinking of returning to Canada in 1986. At that time, we also had permission to immigrate to Australia, as permanent immigrants. But the wife put her foot down, she wanted to come home. Besides, she pointed out that we don’t have any relatives in Australia.

Anyway, we only had immigration visas to Australia, I didn’t’ have a job. But then I got a good job here in Canada, so that made the decision very easy, we returned to Canada.

But in 1986, we were seriously considering emigrating to Australia. So Australia is a great place in my opinion. Only thing is that it is isolated and if somebody is from North America, he generally wouldn’t have any relatives in Australia.

Thanks for the information. A lot of my friends are retirement age so that would not be an issue too much. My brothers told me to move somewhere neat so they have a cool place to visit. Beside we are the only ones here in Texas. The rest are all in the UK.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Thanks for the information. A lot of my friends are retirement age so that would not be an issue too much. My brothers told me to move somewhere neat so they have a cool place to visit. Beside we are the only ones here in Texas. The rest are all in the UK.

Both Australia and New Zealand are very good places to live, but are a bit isolated. If most of your relatives are in UK, they will find it much easier to visit you in Canada than in Australia or New Zealand.