Oxford Debate: Islam is a Religion of Peace

EagleSmack

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Islam is about submission. We say it is a religion of peace to be PC and not to offend.
 

Angstrom

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All in all I do think Mehdi won the debate and the vote reflected that too....
 

WLDB

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We say it is a religion of peace to be PC and not to offend.

People complain about PC all the time but never actually do anything about it. People should just ignore it and say what they mean. If it offends someone, too bad.
 

damngrumpy

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This good discussion finally reached the depths of name calling and labelling
like the other discussions that breathe a sense of personal passions into the
argument.
First Hitler was a Catholic, Mussolini was a Catholic, and many of the higher
ranking officials of the Hitler Regime were Catholics. They were also political
pagans of sorts but they still celebrated the church holidays.
As for the others mentioned, well the Dutch Reformed Church has a history of
apartheid, the Southern Baptist Convention and the Democratic Party of the old
South had a lot in common. It was once the Republicans against Slavery and
the Democrats in the south administering it. That is how Lincoln freed the slaves.
He was a Republican.
The high society in Britain were in fact for Hitler cause he didn't like the Jews.
Then think about this, if the wealth of the highest order didn't like the Jews then
the Jews didn't run everything.
Even Pope Pius the twelfth was friends with the dictators of Europe. After the war
the Vatican played a great role in Odessa helping the Nazis get to South America.
The King of England who left the throne behind was also a great buddy of Hitler and
some say Neville Chamberlain's wife has shares in Krupp the German steel works.
As for the Muslims, they have no central figure to unify them in a direction of the faith.
therefore they are still warring tribes in a societal world and they bring anything but
peace. They are in fact what Christianity behaved like in the Middle Ages and believe
me Peace was never mentioned back then. It was about conquest.
Our unwillingness to accept the reality of who these people are will be the measure that
fulfills the prediction of Nostradamus that we will be at war with Islam in the twenty first
century. Doesn't sound like peace is coming anytime soon
 

Angstrom

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This good discussion finally reached the depths of name calling and labelling
like the other discussions that breathe a sense of personal passions into the
argument.
First Hitler was a Catholic, Mussolini was a Catholic, and many of the higher
ranking officials of the Hitler Regime were Catholics. They were also political
pagans of sorts but they still celebrated the church holidays.
As for the others mentioned, well the Dutch Reformed Church has a history of
apartheid, the Southern Baptist Convention and the Democratic Party of the old
South had a lot in common. It was once the Republicans against Slavery and
the Democrats in the south administering it. That is how Lincoln freed the slaves.
He was a Republican.
The high society in Britain were in fact for Hitler cause he didn't like the Jews.
Then think about this, if the wealth of the highest order didn't like the Jews then
the Jews didn't run everything.
Even Pope Pius the twelfth was friends with the dictators of Europe. After the war
the Vatican played a great role in Odessa helping the Nazis get to South America.
The King of England who left the throne behind was also a great buddy of Hitler and
some say Neville Chamberlain's wife has shares in Krupp the German steel works.
As for the Muslims, they have no central figure to unify them in a direction of the faith.
therefore they are still warring tribes in a societal world and they bring anything but
peace. They are in fact what Christianity behaved like in the Middle Ages and believe
me Peace was never mentioned back then. It was about conquest.
Our unwillingness to accept the reality of who these people are will be the measure that
fulfills the prediction of Nostradamus that we will be at war with Islam in the twenty first
century. Doesn't sound like peace is coming anytime soon

I guess if one great single leader was made to speak on behalf of the whole religion, he could then clear up or fortify beliefs others have of Islam.
Kind of like what we have going on with the pope.
Have one clear voice of interpretation to the Qaran

I could see that resolving a lot of problems.
Or help us see the problems more clearly.
 

EagleSmack

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People complain about PC all the time but never actually do anything about it. People should just ignore it and say what they mean. If it offends someone, too bad.

Those that do are branded as bigots and islamaphobes etc.
 

gopher

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coldstream; said:
G.K. Chesterton, who was a very insightful commentator of culture, religion and society in the early 20th Century (as well as writing the Fr. Brown Mysteries) .. wrote this on the true character of Islam.. which in truth has NEVER been about Peace.. but always about conquest and 'submission'.



While I generally liked Chesterton (esp his three acres + a cow remedy) if he was here today, I'd ask him to point out how many times Islamic countries invaded the West in his lifetime as compared to how many times the West invaded Islamic countries in that time frame.