How much work, physical or otherwise, do parliamentarian actually do and how often? Seems to me danger could be a factor, but pay should be scaled to skill and work load. A soldiers skill level may or may not require as much mental acuity as a plumber, but their physical training is far beyond that of any tradesman. There are a lot f factors to consider, but I have made no bones about what I think of politics - poor actors, scapegoats for the ruling elite.
Ottawa signals an about-face on danger-pay cut
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One I know works way more than what can be considered average. That fact that you may not consider it work doesn't mean that it isn't.
Yep, must be really tough sitting behind a desk looking at statistics and reports and deciding to cut someone else's danger pay without ever having to risk a fingernail.
Yes, it is quite tough. That's why we haven't had many politicians in the last few decades that were willing to do it.
Because politicians don't want to be bureaucrats anyway. DUH. It isn't politicians that decide on those cuts to danger pay. My advice to you is to stick to your deskjockeying and pondering how hard it is to shuffle papers and balance your bankbook. You've obviously got a higher opinion of bureaucrats than they deserve. And they obviously haven't a clue what is involved with actual physical work and being in the military.
You're fooling yourself.
I'm not a desk jockey. Your feeble attemp at an insult has backfired. (That's getting to be a regular habit with you)
Wrong again (as usual). Perhaps you should stick to what you know. I understand it would limit your participation in these threads but it may prove to be a tad less embarrassing to you.
I have a hard time believing this popped out to the complete surprise of the Prime Minsiter's Office, given the way this administration likes to control information. Also, I imagine the committee involved is tasked with undertaking major cost cuts as Harper tries to eliminate the deficit by 2015. So they send the bureaucrats off to cut the costs, and when they cut the costs, the Conservatives act all horrified. So, overall, not really buying the "blame the bureaucracy" business. The Ministers in charge of their various departments need to take responsbility--"the buck stops here" and all that. Of course, I'm a bureaucrat, so I'm probably biased in my assessment.
I got back from Kabul not too long ago (and yes, I got danger pay). I'd say Kabul is getting more dangerous these days. As the various nations involved in US/NATO mission pull out, the Taliban and other insurgent groups are moving in. Also there's a lot more "green on blue" attacks where Afghan soldiers and police who are supposed to be on our side turn their guns on us. Makes it a bit dicier to move around now. It is still safer than being outside the wire in Kandahar though.
I got back from Kabul not too long ago (and yes, I got danger pay). I'd say Kabul is getting more dangerous these days. As the various nations involved in US/NATO mission pull out, the Taliban and other insurgent groups are moving in. Also there's a lot more "green on blue" attacks where Afghan soldiers and police who are supposed to be on our side turn their guns on us. Makes it a bit dicier to move around now. It is still safer than being outside the wire in Kandahar though.
Nope. Read this, fool: "Alexander blamed government bureaucrats, saying decisions are made by the arm’s length bodies that look at risk and hardship."
Read more: DND to 're-examine' cut to danger pay for troops in Afghanistan | CTV News
Whatever.
Sorry, fool. I can back up my claims with evidence. How many bureaucrats do you know in the committee that decides what soldiers get for hazard pay actually see or saw any service in action? Here, look up the bureaucrats and see for yourself; http://www.cmp-cpm.forces.gc.ca/dgcb-dgras/adg-sdg/index-eng.asp
lol Your opinion.
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Okay. Just who do YOU think makes the decisions on soldiers' hazard pay if it isn't bureaucrats?
Maybe he even thinks that the ONLY people that work for the DND are military personel, too (except for the politicians he thinks make the decisions on who gets paid what in the military, that is).
More silliness. Does it ever end with you?
Yes I do. I understand that strictly speaking they aren't considered civil servants so if it matters to you, we could use the term government employee. So, why shouldn't government employees take pay cuts?
No. It may be sufficient for you but not everybody differentiates between soldiers and other public workers. They all provide a service to taxpayers and these services are valued to one extent or another by different taxpayers.
Typical. Dodge, duck and weave. Anything to avoid answering a hard question.
Again; if it isn't bureaucrats, who do YOU think decides on hazard pay for soldiers?
Again; if it isn't bureaucrats, who do YOU think decides on hazard pay for soldiers?
Hard question? Don't flatter yourself. You haven't asked a hard question in all the time I've seen you on this forum.
Politicians. If you seriously think a bureaucrat made this decision without consulting the political masters, you are a fool.
You wouldn't know one anyway. And it's highly likely that you don't find any question difficult simply because you find it too easy to come up with erroneous or just plain stupid replies.
lol I provided the link a while back, there's contact information there so you can ask if politicians make the decisions about adjustments in soldiers' hazard pay..
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Hey....it could be worse.
USAF is handing out lay off notices.
Air Force grounds combat squadrons due to automatic spending cuts - Washington Post
USAF is handing out lay off notices.
Air Force grounds combat squadrons due to automatic spending cuts - Washington Post
Yes we all know the Military is paid for by the Govt/Taxpayer and falls under civil authority.
But from Politicians to newspapers to bureaucrats they always refer to them as military.
When published numbers for what dept has how many people etc they always list the Military as Military. And they brek those number down further to Civilian and Military.