Ottawa denies science and lies about the safety of asbestos

[Tonington]

That is the only explanation imaginable for the Harper government's decision to oppose, at a summit in Switzerland this week, yet again, an attempt to put chrysotile asbestos on a hazardous materials index of the UN's Rotterdam Convention.

I have another explanation...the Harper government doesn't care about science. They care about the global ponzi scheme of constant economic growth. They lie about scientific findings, fire government scientists, destroy the usefulness of the long form census...it's clear that they don't care what reality actually is.

 

[WLDB]

If Harper really believes this then he should have his home insulated with asbestos instead of having it removed from west block.

 

[YukonJack]

He probably took off to buy crack and pick up a teenage boy at the Forks.

This despicable innuendo proves that I was and will always be correct to call you POS.

Go, share a childish giggle with the mental flob.

 

[relic]

Harper and his lackys don't need science,they have god.all they care about is being in the drivers seat.They have to back asbestos because it might get them a few votes in Quebec.

 

[cranky]

I think we pay ottawa enough money that if we need them to lie to the international community then they better do it.

 

[Unforgiven]

No.... the average joe did not. The average joe actually has very little say. They're pawns in a larger game.

YouTube - ‪Mongo only pawn in game of life‬‏

 

[Tonington]

I think we pay ottawa enough money that if we need them to lie to the international community then they better do it.

Why do we need them to lie about the safety of asbestos?

 

[cranky]

Why do we need them to lie about the safety of asbestos?

Canada has an asbestos industry that employs canadian, no?

 

[Tonington]

Canada has an asbestos industry that employs canadian, no?

So? There are plenty of jobs in Canada that do not need the government to lie about risks or health concerns. If any industry needs the government to lie for them, then they shouldn't exist. If any party is close to advocating a free market, it's the current government, and lies amount to coercion, which is fundamentally anti-free market.

It's ridiculous on all fronts.

 

[Sparrow]

And some smokers live to see 85, doesn't mean that it isn't a risk. The results are clear, exposure to chrysotile is a health risk. Canada is in select company by fighting the listing of this chemical on the list, we're in with Iran and Zimbabwe...not a single Western democracy opposes this listing.

Check you facts and I mean FACTS and not falsehoods. First of all you don't seem to even know what asbestos is!!!!! IT IS NOT A CHEMICAL. Secondly before you classify Chrysotile with what is produced in Iran and Zimbabwe check the facts.

 

[Tonington]

Check you facts and I mean FACTS and not falsehoods. First of all you don't seem to even know what asbestos is!!!!! IT IS NOT A CHEMICAL.

Of course it`s a chemical...don`t be ridiculous. All substances you can hold in your hand are chemicals...a chemical is any substance with a distinct chemical composition and characteristics, which crysotile definitely has.

Secondly before you classify Chrysotile with what is produced in Iran and Zimbabwe check the facts.

Slow down and read again so that you aren't mistaken... I never said what we produce is the same as what is produced in Iran and Zimbabwe. I said they were some of the same countries blocking listing...though even these countries have given up their denial of public health science.

 

[taxslave]

Indeed, quite so. That is absolutely true.


I suppose that the Yukon is close to the Pole, so to speak.

The pole the strippers use in the bar?

There is nothing wrong with mining and exporting as long as there is a guarantee of safe end use of the product.

It'not not used here as pipe insulation for indoor use but still outdoor if mixed with an organic compund or polymer and waterproofed. The old stuff takes on water like crazy and loses it's insulating value. Dangerous to have happen on a hydrogen cracker at a refinery or something to that extent.

I agree. there are many places where asbestos is the best product available. It just must be applied in a safe manner. Fiberglass is dangerous in its liquid form but is perfectly safe once it hardens. Just have to use the appropriate PPE and training.
Where things start going wrong is with poorly thought out rules around handling both during application and removal. We do a couple of hundred grand a year in asbestos removal and spent thousands of dollars to buy the proper equipment and training and dispose of the product properly but fly by night contractors and joe homeowner remove asbestos laden drywall, roofing and flooring with no PPE and then dump it with the regular garbage. Yet nobody checks up on what they are dumping while we have to do mountains of paperwork. Makes bidding difficult sometimes because insurance companies don't care as long as it is the lowest price. IMO they should be held criminally responsible if they hire a contractor to do an asbestos removal job that does not follow the rules for PPE and disposal.

I have another explanation...the Harper government doesn't care about science. They care about the global ponzi scheme of constant economic growth. They lie about scientific findings, fire government scientists, destroy the usefulness of the long form census...it's clear that they don't care what reality actually is.

They also think the world is 6000 years old and made by god in six days.