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When you are in agony there is nothing wrong with taking a percoset to ease the pain. Especially when you are trying to sleep. You have to be careful and don't think to take more than prescribed. If they stop working maybe you'll need time release morphine. If they can fix you and the pain subsides, you can work on quitting, I have had no pain pills other than Lyrica for about two months. In severe pain today so I took a tylenol.
 

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I guess it really depends on what pain you are managing...and all the steps you are taking to repair the problem.. if it is repairable

I mean, opioid addiction isn't a made up phenomenon. More people become addicted than not.The working on quiting part is not as easy as just saying it.
 

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The most dangerous part of the percesets is the Tylenol. You will do more damage to your body with that before the oxy in it does any. The oxy is addictive of course.
 

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Family That Made a Fortune off National Oxycontin Epidemic Has Just Landed on Forbes' Richest List
Some drug dealers go to prison. Some get rich. Others get filthy rich.

Say hello to the Sacklers, the newest members of Forbes' 2015 List of Richest US Families, who collected a fortune from a national opioid addiction epidemic. Worth $14 billion, they're the 16th richest family in the country. Although they're richer than the Mellons, the Busches, or the Rockefellers, you've probably never heard of them.

But you've almost certainly heard about the product that put them in the 1% of the 1%. The Sacklers own 100% of Purdue Pharma, the Stamford, Connecticut-based company that makes Oxycontin, the opiate analgesic that helped spark a new generation of pain pill and heroin addicts.

Oxycontin has been the most popular and controversial opioid of this century. The time-release pain reliever, originally billed as addiction-proof, has generated the vast majority of Purdue Pharma's $35 billion in sales since it was first introduced in 1995. Purdue is currently generating about $3 billion a year in revenues, again most of it from Oxycontin.

Sales of oxycodone jumped from fewer than 10 million prescriptions a year in 1991 to more than 53 million prescriptions in 2012, largely impelled by the introduction of Oxycontin and Purdue Pharma's aggressive marketing campaign for the drug. And while it's difficult to isolate Oxycontin from other opiate analgesics, it has been a big driver in the fourfold increase in prescription opiate sales between 1999 and 2010.

According to the Centers for Disease Control, of the nearly 44,000 drug overdose deaths in the US in 2013, more than half were from prescribed drugs, and of those deaths, 72% were from opiate overdoses. The opiate overdose death rate has increased more than threefold in the same period, the CDC reported.

The company that would become Purdue Pharma was founded by brothers Arthur, Mortimer and Raymond Sackler, all practicing psychiatrists, in 1952. The firm was a middling success, initially selling unglamorous products like laxatives, but its fortunes changed after it began experimenting with generic oxycodone, which was invented in Germany during World War I, and eventually created a formulation with a time-release mechanism, which was designed to reduce addictiveness by spreading the drug's effect over a 12-hour period.

That move enabled Purdue to market Oxycontin beyond cancer patients who were the traditional market for powerful painkillers, and it did so with gusto. Thanks to Purdue's aggressive marketing campaign, and especially to the claim the Oxycontin was not addictive, primary care physicians soon began prescribing it for a wide array of painful symptoms. By 2002, Oxycontin was bringing in $1.5 billion a year.

Of course, people interested in getting high off opiates quickly figured out that they could just crush the pill to overcome its time-release mechanism, snort the powder, and get as high—or higher—than they could with heroin. Overdoses, accidental deaths, and addiction followed.

Purdue has been punished for its misbehavior—it was forced to pay $635 million in fines after pleading guilty to false marketing charges brought by the Justice Department, and is facing a possible $1 billion payout in a false marketing suit brought by the state of Kentucky, one of the hardest hit by "hillbilly heroin." But even numbers like those are chump change when you're sitting on a $14 billion fortune.

At a time when low-level street dealers get sent to prison for decades when one of their customers overdoses and dies on their product, the Sacklers, whose product has killed thousands and addicted tens or hundreds of thousands more, get to join the list of the country's wealthiest families.
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one of the guys the homeless shelter I volunteer at just helped get a place to live in
just died on this DOCTOR PRESCRIBED SH!T
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I'd like to see them in jail forever in an opposite raced range

They figure he had a couple of drinks while on his clonazopam and lost track of how many he did just enough to have a heart attack
There was still lots of oxyies left
 
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The most dangerous part of the percesets is the Tylenol. You will do more damage to your body with that before the oxy in it does any. The oxy is addictive of course.
I can't take ibuprophen or aleve because my kydney function dimished awhile back. She also stopped prescribing meloxicam for the arthritis in my tailbone so for now tylenol is it. I may ask for time release morphine to ease the pain.
 

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I can't take ibuprophen or aleve because my kydney function dimished awhile back. She also stopped prescribing meloxicam for the arthritis in my tailbone so for now tylenol is it. I may ask for time release morphine to ease the pain.

Tylenol is ok but be very careful of dosage and don't ever exceed max recommended.
 

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My brother had back surgery, and when he felt he was recovered and it was time, he quit his narcotics cold turkey. He said that he's never experienced anything as horrible as going through those withdrawls. He said it was incredible, with the halucinations and pyschosis.


He said it was one day of utter hell, and he can see how people can easily get addicted. And he wasn't on a high dose, or for all that long.
 

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My brother had back surgery, and when he felt he was recovered and it was time, he quit his narcotics cold turkey. He said that he's never experienced anything as horrible as going through those withdrawls. He said it was incredible, with the halucinations and pyschosis.


He said it was one day of utter hell, and he can see how people can easily get addicted. And he wasn't on a high dose, or for all that long.
I haven't had any withdrawel and no opioids for 8 weeks. Just the leg and back pain.
 

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My brother had back surgery, and when he felt he was recovered and it was time, he quit his narcotics cold turkey. He said that he's never experienced anything as horrible as going through those withdrawls. He said it was incredible, with the halucinations and pyschosis.


He said it was one day of utter hell, and he can see how people can easily get addicted. And he wasn't on a high dose, or for all that long.

You can get hallucinations while on them too. My wife was on morphine in hospital for a while and she had a cat visiting her. Told the nurse (as a joke) and they changed her meds.
 

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You can get hallucinations while on them too. My wife was on morphine in hospital for a while and she had a cat visiting her. Told the nurse (as a joke) and they changed her meds.



Yes, that's part of the appeal.


In related news, my daughter got to give someone a shot of narcan the other day, and with cpr, they were able to save the person. Probably a lost cause, but you never know.
 

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Tylenol has zero effect on me. I might as well be taking a sugar pill. Iboprphen, Neproxen work well for me, though. I have been told that they can cause the kidneys to bleed but Tylenol can cause severe liver damage if you overdose. Don't take it to do yourself in. It won't kill you outright, just leaves you sick and damaged.

You can get hallucinations while on them too. My wife was on morphine in hospital for a while and she had a cat visiting her. Told the nurse (as a joke) and they changed her meds.

I spent eight hours in Emergency last night (there seems all sorts of tests and results involved, hence the long wait). There was a poor woman across from me who got FOUR IV bags of morphine while I was there and she was still in severe pain. I'm not 100% sure but I think she has Shingles.
 

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My dad was addicted to morphine. He has a degenerative spinal condition that was never going to be fixed and there was nothing he could do to fix it through exercise or rehab.

The benefit he received was also a great benefit for the rest of his family. He was a much nicer person on morphine then he was before the morphine and before the pain.

However, once addicted your body stops producing natural pain meds which makes it very painful for some people to come off it. Sometimes the pain that comes back is not as severe as the pain would have been had an opiod never been given.

But the happiness that opiods can provide to certain individuals can be as addicting. Who'd want to go back to the misery they'd known before? and because withdrawal sux why bother? Everyone just wants to be happy and maybe some don't realize that is the cause of their "addiction"



Yes, that's part of the appeal.


In related news, my daughter got to give someone a shot of narcan the other day, and with cpr, they were able to save the person. Probably a lost cause, but you never know.

Not a lost cause. IT's never a lost cause. She may well postpone this persons death or maybe inbetween the o.d and the next fix, the person will have a personal epiphany or receive the help they need.
 

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My dad was addicted to morphine. He has a degenerative spinal condition that was never going to be fixed and there was nothing he could do to fix it through exercise or rehab.

The benefit he received was also a great benefit for the rest of his family. He was a much nicer person on morphine then he was before the morphine and before the pain.

However, once addicted your body stops producing natural pain meds which makes it very painful for some people to come off it. Sometimes the pain that comes back is not as severe as the pain would have been had an opiod never been given.

But the happiness that opiods can provide to certain individuals can be as addicting. Who'd want to go back to the misery they'd known before? and because withdrawal sux why bother? Everyone just wants to be happy and maybe some don't realize that is the cause of their "addiction"





Not a lost cause. IT's never a lost cause. She may well postpone this persons death or maybe inbetween the o.d and the next fix, the person will have a personal epiphany or receive the help they need.
Happy? Just want to not hurt . Happy isn't the right word.