Open military to non citizens?

Twin_Moose

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This Canadian "training" of foreign soldiers is yet another ill-conceived attempt to get our geo-political jollies short of declaring war which is the actual way we are supposed to do these things.
It will, as the saying goes, end in tears.

So what are you saying? Invade the countries with problem spots around the world?
 

Hoid

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I would say invading countries is the last thing Canada should be doing.

I would far rather see us sending doctors and nurses and teachers and farmers into these problem (poor) areas .
 

JLM

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I would say invading countries is the last thing Canada should be doing.

I would far rather see us sending doctors and nurses and teachers and farmers into these problem (poor) areas .


Yeah, may be the incompetent ones we need to get rid of. :)
 

Twin_Moose

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I would say invading countries is the last thing Canada should be doing.
I would far rather see us sending doctors and nurses and teachers and farmers into these problem (poor) areas .

How does that help foreign countries control terrorists, revolutionists, armed insurgents?
 

spilledthebeer

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The Brits do everything ass-backwards. The whole Navy used to be composed of odd-ball Kipper gear ... before my time, mind.




And how would you know these things Comrade Curious??????????????????????????


Since the only equipment an OLD RCN sailor like you was ever allowed to play with was with stuff so old the Royal Navy had already



DISCARDED IT BEFORE it got to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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The Ukraine is not in NATO ... not quite (which is why all of this is going on in the first place) and it may not be legal for us to be training Ukranian soldiers on our territory without some sort of declaration against Russia. That's a guess. The Russians no doubt view the Ukranians as traitors for trying to join NATO.




OH Comrade Curious!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You grow more weirdly CURIOUS by the day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


WHY IN HELL would Russians think of Ukrainians as TRAITORS???????????????????????????


At various times Ukraine has been an INDEPENDENT COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ukraine has been independent before and it is indepentant now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And will remain independent just so long as it does not have to rely on Cdn LIE-berals for aid against its old enemy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I suggest you go read a little history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe a little light reading about the Holodomor............................


the Ukrainian Holocaust in which Stalin DELIBERATELY STARVED 8 million Ukrainians to death in the 1930`s because the Ukrainians were refusing Soviet orders to set up Collective Farms as Stalin wanted!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Russians and Ukrainians have a LONG HISTORY of warfare and hate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


During the Soviet era - Russians made systematic efforts to BURY Ukrainian language and culture -as they did with all other Russian occupied territories such as the Baltic States!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



In most of the Russian occupied territories- at least 25 percent of the population is ethnic Russian because Moscow BRIBED Russians to go live in the occupied territories in order to BLUR the ethnic lines and confuse the borders!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



AS for Ukraine joining NATO...................it was Bill Clinton who killed that idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The former Soviet KGB types like Yuri Andorpov who took over Russia after Gorbachev DID NOT WANT NATO forces sitting in the Crimea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So the Soviets protested to Clinton and Ukraine was refused entry to NATO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN OUR WARNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The Soviet Union is GONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But the Russian Bear snarls on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY THING preventing Ukraine from being returned to its former SLAVE STATUS is Russian uncertainty about how NATO generally and United States specifically would react to such NAZI style aggression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



This is the reason why Trump was ANGRY with German Chancellor Merkel for doing the multi billion dollar deal with Russia to buy Soviet natural gas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The German deal is giving Putin the hard currency he needs to make trouble in Ukraine, in Syria, and in Venezuela!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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This Canadian "training" of foreign soldiers is yet another ill-conceived attempt to get our geo-political jollies short of declaring war which is the actual way we are supposed to do these things.

It will, as the saying goes, end in tears.




OH HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your HYPOCRISY GROWS faster than LIE-beral DEBTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



It seems like only 2 years ago that you were CROWING about how Our idiot Boy Justin was sending Cdn troops off to places like Syria and Ukraine to train the locals in defense measures!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And.............why yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It WAS 2 years back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



OH Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Back then You told us that Cdn troops were WONDERFUL TRAINERS and that sending Cdns off to train the locals was EVEN BETTER than lending them the support of our 6 aging F 18 fighter jets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now..............your hypocrisy has turned again and you are SNEERING at Cdns training others for "geo-political jollies"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Gosh HOID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The average Cdn observer really has to ask:::::::::


"DO YOU HOLD ANY MORAL CONVICTIONS ON ANYTHING"??????????????????????????


Sure looks like your head is merely an empty vessel randomly whistling in the COLD WINDS that are blowing major political change into Ottawa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Curious Cdn

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And how would you know these things Comrade Curious??????????????????????????


Since the only equipment an OLD RCN sailor like you was ever allowed to play with was with stuff so old the Royal Navy had already



DISCARDED IT BEFORE it got to you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not in my lifetime. Everything that I was ever on was designed and built in Canada by Canadians. The only Kipper stuff "back then" were the "O Boat" submarines and I wouldn't have been caught dead in one of those sewer pipes.
 

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By the way, Russian surface fleet tactics don't seem to have changed since Soviet days except that so much of their fleet is composed of rusting, obsolete hulks that the mentioned second warship accompanying the intelligence gathering vessel might be a protective frigate but it is more likely to be a tug boat.


You mean the days when you fought the Soviet Navy while you served with the RCN?
 

spilledthebeer

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Not in my lifetime. Everything that I was ever on was designed and built in Canada by Canadians. The only Kipper stuff "back then" were the "O Boat" submarines and I wouldn't have been caught dead in one of those sewer pipes.




So...................you served on Flower class Corvettes????????????????????????


AND figured radar that could "see" a ship running on the surface was a new fangled creation!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!