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NZDoug

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Getting back to the F-35, I think every day of no decision is a day of money saved, as history will show it as a piece of junk
It's a really, really expensive piece of junk, so much do that Allied air forces have to pare their numbers of airframes down to dangerously vulnerable numbers just to finance the things. It's a major military disaster in the making. Oh, the power of those lobbiests, eh?
Majinot line was cutting edge in 1919, too.
If you shut down gps nothing works.
Its all a big kiss ass.
'The American Way will destroy the world.
 

spilledthebeer

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can you rephrase that, spilty?


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POOR BONDO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your mind is so troubled by the many things you do not understand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So please Bondo- do not read this article as it will only confuse you further!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




Here is an aritcle illustrating how LIE-beral minded Cdn govt is leaking money in a thousand directions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No wonder our govt books do not balance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals could not run a chip truck at profit- not even if you gave them the chips for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Regent Park revitalization $107 million in the hole

By Sue-Ann Levy, Toronto Sun. First posted: Sunday, January 29, 2017 01:22 PM EST . Updated: Sunday, January 29, 2017 01:35 PM EST

(With some comments of my own in brackets):

TORONTO - The $1-billion and counting 15-year Regent Park revitalization project is not even half done and already $107 million in the hole, the city’s budget committee heard last week.

According to a report to the Jan. 24 budget committee, the $107-million city bailout required to finish Phase 3 is only the start with another $182-million funding shortfall predicted (on a preliminary basis) for Phases 4 and 5 and $100 million-plus for another revitalization of Lawrence Heights.

The budget committee approved — with barely a whimper — a plan concocted by city finance staff to increase the annual capital subsidy to Toronto Community Housing Corp. (TCHC) by $6 million to help pay for the 339 social housing units that have yet to be built in Phase 3.

They also agreed to guarantee another $101.7 million in new debt that must be taken out to finance the Regent Park project.

TCHC spokesman Sara Goldvine confirmed Friday that the total amount spent and committed by the city and TCHC on Regent Park to date is $512.7 million, which includes the current bailout and offsite housing on Adelaide St. E.

The report to budget committee says quite clearly that the original vision for Regent Park — first approved in 2003 — was that proceeds from sales of market housing developed by the Daniels Corp., along with operating and capital maintenance savings and the city’s contribution to infrastructure, were supposed to pay for the revitalization.

I can’t say I’m the least bit surprised that this socialist utopia — which was to replace 2,000 units of decrepit social housing and place them alongside 2,800 market units — is in financial difficulties. As I revealed in a 2012 expose, the exact details of the 50-50 joint venture company between Daniels and TCHC created to build Phase 1 and the details of who paid what were murky even to the city’s auditor-deneral at the time.

(This stupidity on the part of Silly Hall staffers illustrates the standard result when civil service Hogs try to outsmart private sector! Hogs just don’t have what it takes NOT TO BE TAKEN! Silly Hall staff could not run a hamburger stand at a profit I if you gave them the beef for free!)

In 2012, TCHC officials repeatedly refused to respond to questions about whether the prime downtown land was handed over to Daniels Corp. for a nominal fee of $2, claiming it could “harm the interests” of TCHC and the city on future such developments.

(Oh right! WE would not want all developers to discover how easy it is to sucker govt! And we would not want the public to figure out that it would be more effective for Silly Hall to simply hand out housing aid directly to those in need and to SKIP the costly and muddled “affordable housing’ messes run by grossly lazy and greedy civil service Hogs that Toronto so often gets into! Metro Toronto Housing is the biggest slum lord in the country! Get Silly Hall OUT of the housing business and let it go bac k to private hands-with income CASH supplements offered DIRECTLY to those who really need them-that way if your building is a thug infested pig-pen you CAN MOVE AWAY! And greedy unions don’t get the opportunity to bleed us dry!)

The best I was able to ascertain at the time was that $86 million had been given to Regent Park in 2009 and 2010 — raised through debt — to help pay for the construction and the city had waived $7.8 million in in development fees and property taxes, at least in the early days.

City spokesman Wynna Brown claimed Friday that the development charges are being paid by the condo owners -she didn’t specify whether that was indeed the developer.

(Should we ask: if Brown doesn’t know or doesn’t WANT to know”? Because knowing might make her feel bad?)

Councillor Shelley Carroll — while contending that it wasn’t “unusual” to have to top up funding for a revitalization — did try to ask interim CEO Greg Spearn on Jan. 24 whether there’s been an accounting of what’s been delivered by the private partner (Daniels Corp.) on its financial promises and the exact amount the city has put into the project.

(The city is replacing older structures previously built by the city with brand new structures also built by the city-just HOW MANY SURPRISES can there be in such a situation?)

Spearn responded that 109 reports have been provided to the board on Regent Park since 2003 and a consolidated “roll-up” to date was just relayed to city CFO Rob Rossini and will be given to their board.

He offered no figures in response to Carroll’s questions.

Instead Spearn blamed the increased accessibility requirements needed in their units and rising construction costs due to a “robust real estate market.”

(The price of housing is rising-SO WHAT? The city OWNS the land ALREADY! What new costs can they encountering?)

“There was always an anticipation in council reports that Regent Park would have a ‘hole’ but now the chickens are coming to roost so to speak,” he told budget committee.

(Again I : WHAT can this `hole` be from? Other than fiscal mismanagement?)

It would appear Regent Park’s latest “affordable” units aren’t that affordable to build either. According to the city report, the costs for the outstanding Phase 3 units range from $294,853 to $301,049 per unit.

REGENT PARK AND ITS FISCAL WOES

Revitalization, a partnership between TCHC, city and Daniels Group
Supposed to take 15 years
Supposed to be six phases
Original cost was $1-B
City has put $512.7-M into project to date
Cash injection includes $107.7 ($101.7 in new debt) approved at budget committee last week
City predicts at least a $182-M shortfall on Phases 4 and 5

(No doubt that $182 -M shortfall is as wrong as every other off by at least 25 percent Silly Hall GUESS-timate! How is it that Silly Hall is ALWAYS at least 25 percent OFF with All its budgets fo building anything?)

Will house 2,083 replacement rent-geared-to-income units- 1,817 on-site and 266 in east downtown.
Will house 5,000 private market condominium units- original concept was 3,000 units.

(Hold it-Silly Hall gets a total of 2400 units and the private sector gets FIVE THOUSAND units? And Silly Hall STILL comes up hundreds of millions SHORT? And the private sector makes a profit while Silly Hall runs around looking for MORE MONEY? Is this not proof positive that Silly Hall should NOT be in the housing business?)

Includes new parks, aquatic centre, arts and culture centre, retail space.

(OH that`s nice- a swimming pool and a place to hang crap modern art the city has bought. Or maybe they will simply re-assemble Cloaca since it’s a leftover from that other fiasco Harbourfront- Cloaca is the larger than life size model of a human digestive system complete with fully functioning asshole!)

Phase 1 done
Phase 2 is nearing completion and includes Paintbox, One Park Place (two towers) with 1,062 market condo units
Phase 3 currently in progress and will include Regent Park Athletic Grounds, 2,000 market condos and 600 social housing units
As of September 2016, a total of 1,271 TCHC households have been relocated in Phases 1, 2, and 3.

(I guess we can assume the city will be paying for re-location of Regents Park residents-certainly the developers don’t seem to have needed to dig to deep to pay THEIR WAY!)

Slevy at postmedia
 

Twin_Moose

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Hey STB why is Toronto putting any money in this project it should have been done as a P3 project with a hard bottom line with clear objectives. A percentage of the for profit condos returned to pay for the affordable ones with the P3 recouping their costs through rent on the affordable housing. Easily been negotiated with a $2 land sale. Unbelievable

I also didn't realize why are we discussing this in the military thread Lol
 

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Government is being asked to wait on spending the $60 billion on ships as they as they do not meet all requirements.

$60 ****ing billion.

How many pipelines is that?
 

Danbones

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If you shut down gps nothing works.
Its all a big kiss ass.
'The American Way will destroy the world.


http://www.viewzone.com/crichton.html

It does longitude without a chronometer.
:)
if you know what you are doing. ( well, like has been done for the last 35,000 years)

Here is his way:
http://rexresearch.com/millercelt/millercelt.htm
It's complicated.

Longitude goes much better when one knows how to use the moon's waxing and waning instead.
:)
here
https://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonFraction.php
file:///C:/Users/Ron/Downloads/164638398-Jean-Meeus-Astronomical-Algorithms1.pdf

Compare your location to say UT. You'll see.

To all you Christians Jews and Muslims out there: sorry about your loss.

Our father, the son, and the holy ghost (1, 2, and 0), is the math system you need to use to run this thing. 666 is the equation that gives you the key number.

Can't buy sell or trade without it..."PIN" numbers eh?
:)
gotta chip in that thing?
 
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Curious Cdn

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http://www.viewzone.com/crichton.html
It does longitude without a chronometer.
:)
if you know what you are doing. ( well, like has been done for the last 35,000 years)
Here is his way:
http://rexresearch.com/millercelt/millercelt.htm
It's complicated.
Longitude goes much better when one knows how to use the moon's waxing and waning instead.
:)
here
https://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonFraction.php
file:///C:/Users/Ron/Downloads/164638398-Jean-Meeus-Astronomical-Algorithms1.pdf
Compare your location to say UT. You'll see.
To all you Christians Jews and Muslims out there: sorry about your loss.
Our father, the son, and the holy ghost (1, 2, and 0), is the math system you need to use to run this thing. 666 is the equation that gives you the key number.
Can't buy sell or trade without it..."PIN" numbers eh?
:)
gotta chip in that thing?
Gonna re-name this thread: "Open military to non-earthlings?"
 

spilledthebeer

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Hey STB why is Toronto putting any money in this project it should have been done as a P3 project with a hard bottom line with clear objectives. A percentage of the for profit condos returned to pay for the affordable ones with the P3 recouping their costs through rent on the affordable housing. Easily been negotiated with a $2 land sale. Unbelievable

I also didn't realize why are we discussing this in the military thread Lol




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Why are we discussing housing in this military discussion?


it is simple- LIE-berals keep changing the subject to try and fail to escape from points they cannot refute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our national security issues are wrapped up in LIE-beral spending policy and social priorities- which is LIE-beral speak for BUYING



VOTES so they can cling to power at any price!


LIE-berals consider not so "affordable housing" to be an essential need- because they wish to fill that housing with illegals and assorted other organized crime figures and future terrorists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



The more money LIE-berals waste on stupid stuff- the less money there is for other items- like the military!


As for the Regents Park money pit- IT IS A PPP- with the developer making most of the money and the city picking up the short falls!!!!!!!!!!!


It is a replay of the Bombardier TTC streetcar contract which is filled with weasel clauses that allow Bombardier to basically produce the Toronto street cars whenever they feel like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is the usual crap that occurs when LIE-berals do deals with private sector- LIE-berals get educated in how much they do not know



or understand about business- and the contractor makes A LOT OF MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And the pace Bombardier is working at indicates they are saving the street car work for whenever they run out of other work for private biz- none of which would be stupid enough to sign the kind of contract that Toronto has with Bombardier!


Let me point out yet again- that LIE-berals could not run a chip truck at a profit- not even if you gave them the potatoes for free!!!!!!



So the city of Toronto got hold of many of the TCHC buildings in the 1980`s by DELIBERATE THEFT of private property!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is surprising how quickly and easily LIE-berals can trample on our civil rights when the need suits them!!!!!!!!!



Does the name Bill Player mean anything to people these days????????????


Player was a financier who put together a package of rental properties- containing 11,000 apartment units in Toronto- for a Saudi



Arabian consortium who wanted to diversify Saudi economic holdings by investing in something besides oil- and Toronto rental



properties looked good -if only a way around rent controls could be found- since ALL the rental buildings needed major repairs! And



doesnt THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?????????????



So Player created a series of holding companies who each bought and then sold the apartments to each other so the value of the



buildings would be artificially inflated- a higher mortgage allowed for higher rent increases of course!


And all the buildings NEEDED MAINTENANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


New windows, new doors, new heating systems, new roofs etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


So an artificial increase in value with resulting higher rents would allow for that necessary work to be done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AS a kid- I recall living briefly in a Toronto low rise apartment and being morbidly fascinated by the boiling hot wall -right beside the



kitchen light switch! Some of the pipes feeding hot water from the boilers to the radiators had rusted out and let boiling water leak



down through four floors of the building!



Things got so bad that all the ground floor ceilings had to be replaced- and they simply diverted the leaking water into drains in the basement........replacing the heating system was a major cost that rent controls did not allow for!!!!


And I recall exploring a 26 story high rise building on nearby Redpath Ave around 1990- and the ENTIRE TOP FLOOR WAS EMPTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


No renters, no furniture, nothing but fallen plaster, empty rooms filled with mildew and mould, puddles everywhere and most of the electrical outlets and lights shorted out- from the ROTTEN OLD ROOF!



A very creepy, post apocalyptic vision of a world after humanity is gone!!!



This was apparently the standard condition of a lot of Toronto rental stock!!!!!!!!!!!!



Anyway- govt smelled a rat on the Player deal and the deal fell through when Player was arrested!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And city of Toronto basically CONFISCATED the buildings from former owners by putting so many work orders onto the buildings and freezing their rents that they became basically worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The buildings never did get any real maintenance!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just a series of licks and promises!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



For a number of decades afterwards some Toronto rental properties went through a revolving door process- with a holding company



buying the building cheap because it was run down- and then letting all the bills pile up while they kept the all the money!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Eventually once the company had milked the situation thoroughly- the company would declare "bankruptcy" and walk away with its



pocket full of cash- leaving property taxes and emergency repair bills and bills for heating and lighting unpaid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The city would take over the building for back taxes owing and auction it off- to a new holding company started by the same old



owners of the previous holding company and the process of stripping assets and leaving debts would begin again!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But our civil service union Hogs are grossly greedy -but not stupid- so they cottoned on and began making their own bids on the buildings and so Toronto Housing Authority was born - amidst LIE-beral LIES and deception!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-berals have been filling the buildings with their bad immigration choices and with illegals and fakes and frauds and drug dealers and addicts and hookers ever since!



So in related news- why will LIE-berals not allow foreigners into the military?


Because NATO would not accept such people serving with them- for fear of being stabbed in the back or having major plans betrayed



to enemies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But LIE-berals can break the bank importing people who hate the west and want to see it destroyed or at least humiliated - and



planting them in TCHC SLUMSl!!!!!!!!!!


Can you imagine the political MESS if some "Cdn" soldier sold off a couple of Cdn anti aircraft missiles to terrorists???????????


And yes- I KNOW Cdn military equipment is obsolete and would not worry the latest generation of Russian fighters- but a civilian air



liner is NOT so well protected and picture the carnage if a missile brought down a fully fueled 747 into a residential area shortly after takeoff!


So there WILL NOT be any Cdn Foreign Legion!


The French CAN get away with it because they are prepared to instantly EXECUTE anybody who steps out of line!!!!!!!!!!!!!


IF a French Legionaire steps out of line its hard labour or a bullet in the head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our LIE-berals just make foreigners live in St Jamestown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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That's why the U.S. Naval Academy has announced that it will start requiring its cadets to learn to navigate by compass and sextant. Just in case.


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THE USUAL STUPIDITY FROM Tecumsehbonesforbrains!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


An electromagnetic pulse from an Iranian nuclear weapon might just take out all the fancy GPS type navigation gear???????????


Leaving no option but compass and sextant?????????????????????


AND HEY T-gurly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why dont you share your vision of modern cop training with us???????????????????


Instead of just Trolling people and then ducking and covering when you get a response!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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is a replay of the Bombardier TTC streetcar contract which is filled with weasel clauses that allow Bombardier to basically produce the Toronto street cars whenever they feel like it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It sounds like that purchasing process is run by retired DND procurement people. They are like the proprietors of Monty Python's Cheese Shop. After employing every possible excuse, we find that, in fact, there is no cheese.
 

Danbones

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Gonna re-name this thread: "Open military to non-earthlings?"
I suppose if neolithic technology is over your head
;)

New research reveals the ‘spectacular’ secrets of Britain’s earliest stone circles
The two oldest stone circles in the country were built to align with the sun and moon
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...otland-orkney-gail-higginbottom-a7201096.html

Neolithic discovery: why Orkney is the centre of ancient Britain
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/oct/06/orkney-temple-centre-ancient-britain

They had zero and didn't need no steenkin military GPS. It's nice to know there is a back up system for when they screw up the civvy navigation systems, which they will do certainly in time of war.

Geez, what do you think X (the cross) Caliber (.00 ) means? Why do we say to CROSS THE OCEAN?

Not to mention the time I save cutting a roof when I am framing a building. Laying out footings and courses are easy with this item.


Any how I say let non nationals join the military then make them fight their home country.
:)
So we aren't being racist.
 
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