Ontario, Quebec sign deals on electricity, climate change
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Apparently the governments of Ontario and Quebec are no longer interested. Don't bother me none if their voters freeze in the dark until they get a new election. Might just smarten them up some.
If i thought Mulcair had even a snowball's chance in hell of ruining the country I would be very concerned. Since that will never happen, no worries.
Muclair is what this country needs if it is to ruin it's economy up to accepted international standards. War is good for that.
Why don't we get to attack somebody? What's the point of an armed force that dosn't force?
Why don't we get to attack somebody? What's the point of an armed force that dosn't force?
It will to the State of Maine... That is the optional route to cut-out Quebec.
Ontario already has the line in place, there is no 'negotiation' that they can engage, other than playing nice and seeing if TCPL will by pipe from that province or if TCPL decides to buy from China.
Already supplying them by rail through BC... Kinder Morgan will be doing the same with their TransMountain Line.
PS - They have already started to arrest some of the tards in BC that have refused to vacate the worksites.
... Makes you comment 'the clock is ticking' even more relevant as the tards wait to get bailed-out of the can
He will... More impetus to fast track the Canadian lines.
... You just don't get it, do you MF?
I would have thought the Ontario premier would be more concerned about Ontario citizens than pleasing the tougue wearing crowd and getting a photo op. And which campaign promise was this again?
Harper-Wynne war will worsen
The Long War between Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne is only going to get longer — and likely more intense.
There's simply too much at stake for both sides for détente, certainly not heading into a federal election campaign and the electoral riches available in this province.
The Harper Conservatives remember how Wynne campaigned against them last spring, they know they are dealing with aggressive adversaries in Ontario and they remember well Wynne's characterization of the Harper "smirk" during that campaign as she recounted a previous, private discussion about pension reform.
They feel there is too much whining coming from a Queen's Park government trying to take the focus off its own problems.
They want to campaign against a gang that will wear the hated sobriquet of "tax-and-spend" Liberals, a group of renegades who do not kneel at the Harper altar of tax cuts and shiny balanced books.
Wynne and her Finance Minister Charles Sousa, with their big-spending election budget, their declining revenues, potential tax hikes and blame-it-all-on Ottawa bleating make an inviting target.
"If you wrote a story every time Charles Sousa blamed Ottawa for his problems, you'd end up writing nothing else," a senior Conservative said this week.
"After 11 years in office, it is time for the Ontario Liberals to take responsibility for their economic management," says Finance Minister Joe Oliver — also the Greater Toronto Area minister, by the way.
When Conservatives look at Kathleen Wynne, they see Justin Trudeau. Their instincts tell them to fight and discredit, not to sit and discuss the big issues of the day bedevilling the country's two largest governments.
They saw Trudeau stumping for Wynne last spring and Wynne returning the favour, appearing on behalf of Trudeau's candidate in this week's Whitby-Oshawa byelection.
If Harper is seen to be snubbing Wynne, then he does so at his own peril, because it is risky to campaign as a tired government seeking a new mandate after nearly a decade in office by taking on a popular provincial government, with Wynne and Trudeau campaigning arm-in-arm. The list of Wynne's grievances is real and long. They are not all meant to be distractions or wedges for the 2015 federal vote.
Wynne's agenda would include infrastructure spending, interprovincial trade, federal transfers, employment insurance and training, her go-it-alone pension plan and the lack of federal action on missing and murdered aboriginal women. The two governments have previously clashed over refugee health care.
They are battling over funding for the development of the Ring of Fire, an area northeast of Thunder Bay rich with chromite deposits.
Ontario wants Ottawa to match its $1-billion investment to develop the mining project, but Ottawa wants that money taken from the $2.7 billion in infrastructure money it says Ontario is eligible for under the Building Canada Fund.
Oliver lauded the fund in a speech to the Federation of Canadian Municipalities this week, saying the fund was open and money was rolling out.
"Ontario still has not submitted any projects under the Building Canada Fund," he said.
Queen's Park said if Ring of Fire development came out of the federal fund, Ontario would be left with infrastructure pennies.
And they have been battling over transfer payments for months.
Ontario is the loser under changes to the way federal transfers have been calculated since Harper took power, and Alberta is the big winner, according to a study by Parliamentary Budget Officer Jean-Denis Fréchette.
Until this year, Ontario would have received about $640 million from Ottawa under a program that protected provinces from seeing transfers drop in any one year. That program was scrapped last year by former finance minister Jim Flaherty.
Oliver is correct when he says overall transfers to Ontario are up on a percentage basis. Sousa is correct when he says Ontario is being shortchanged on equalization payments.
They will not find common ground on this. Their separate narratives fit their separate interests too well.
Harper and Oliver "know" certain things — mom and dad know best on caring for their children, targeted tax cuts serve Canadian families best and budgets must be balanced, even if it is at the expense of veterans or security at embassies.
They will not be moved from those tenets. Harper will not meet with Wynne based on ultimatums or press releases.
But he will have to be careful in how he handles a brash and increasingly frustrated Liberal government in Ontario.
The prime minister's majority — if not his government — depends on this province.
Harper-Wynne war will worsen
The Long War between Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne is only going to get longer — and likely more intense.
There's simply too much at stake for both sides for détente, certainly not heading into a federal election campaign and the electoral riches available in this province.
The Harper Conservatives remember how Wynne campaigned against them last spring, they know they are dealing with aggressive adversaries in Ontario and they remember well Wynne's characterization of the Harper "smirk" during that campaign as she recounted a previous, private discussion about pension reform.
They feel there is too much whining coming from a Queen's Park government trying to take the focus off its own problems.
They want to campaign against a gang that will wear the hated sobriquet of "tax-and-spend" Liberals, a group of renegades who do not kneel at the Harper altar of tax cuts and shiny balanced books.
Wynne and her Finance Minister Charles Sousa, with their big-spending election budget, their declining revenues, potential tax hikes and blame-it-all-on Ottawa bleating make an inviting target.
"If you wrote a story every time Charles Sousa blamed Ottawa for his problems, you'd end up writing nothing else," a senior Conservative said this week.
"After 11 years in office, it is time for the Ontario Liberals to take responsibility for their economic management," says Finance Minister Joe Oliver — also the Greater Toronto Area minister, by the way.
When Conservatives look at Kathleen Wynne, they see Justin Trudeau. Their instincts tell them to fight and discredit, not to sit and discuss the big issues of the day bedevilling the country's two largest governments.
They saw Trudeau stumping for Wynne last spring and Wynne returning the favour, appearing on behalf of Trudeau's candidate in this week's Whitby-Oshawa byelection.
If Harper is seen to be snubbing Wynne, then he does so at his own peril, because it is risky to campaign as a tired government seeking a new mandate after nearly a decade in office by taking on a popular provincial government, with Wynne and Trudeau campaigning arm-in-arm. The list of Wynne's grievances is real and long. They are not all meant to be distractions or wedges for the 2015 federal vote.
Wynne's agenda would include infrastructure spending, interprovincial trade, federal transfers, employment insurance and training, her go-it-alone pension plan and the lack of federal action on missing and murdered aboriginal women. The two governments have previously clashed over refugee health care.
They are battling over funding for the development of the Ring of Fire, an area northeast of Thunder Bay rich with chromite deposits.
Ontario wants Ottawa to match its $1-billion investment to develop the mining project, but Ottawa wants that money taken from the $2.7 billion in infrastructure money it says Ontario is eligible for under the Building Canada Fund.
Oliver lauded the fund in a speech to the Federation of Canadian Municipalities this week, saying the fund was open and money was rolling out.
"Ontario still has not submitted any projects under the Building Canada Fund," he said.
Queen's Park said if Ring of Fire development came out of the federal fund, Ontario would be left with infrastructure pennies.
And they have been battling over transfer payments for months.
Ontario is the loser under changes to the way federal transfers have been calculated since Harper took power, and Alberta is the big winner, according to a study by Parliamentary Budget Officer Jean-Denis Fréchette.
Until this year, Ontario would have received about $640 million from Ottawa under a program that protected provinces from seeing transfers drop in any one year. That program was scrapped last year by former finance minister Jim Flaherty.
Oliver is correct when he says overall transfers to Ontario are up on a percentage basis. Sousa is correct when he says Ontario is being shortchanged on equalization payments.
They will not find common ground on this. Their separate narratives fit their separate interests too well.
Harper and Oliver "know" certain things — mom and dad know best on caring for their children, targeted tax cuts serve Canadian families best and budgets must be balanced, even if it is at the expense of veterans or security at embassies.
They will not be moved from those tenets. Harper will not meet with Wynne based on ultimatums or press releases.
But he will have to be careful in how he handles a brash and increasingly frustrated Liberal government in Ontario.
The prime minister's majority — if not his government — depends on this province.
Harper-Wynne war will worsen