Ontario PCs are really screwing up badly

Hoid

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From your link:

"Ontario remains the most popular destination for recent immigrants, with 39 per cent living there in 2016."

For some reason you decided not to include this.
 

petros

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Recent immigrants" refers to people who first obtained their landed immigrant or permanent resident status in Canada in the five years prior to a given census. Click on the buttons below to see data from different census years.

You are welcome for the definition.
 

Hoid

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"Ontario remains the most popular destination for recent immigrants, with 39 per cent living there in 2016."

Really all i need to know.
 

petros

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Yeah, they "landed in 2011". Times are a changing.

landed immigrant or permanent resident status in Canada in the five years prior to a given census.

Is it still 2016?
 

spilledthebeer

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I think giving Harris a pass is ridiculous.

He should be in jail.


Poor Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He has no point to make other than the one we all know: that he hates Conservatives and is prepared to live in a fantasy land filled with LIE-beral Fake News!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


People like Hoid lose sleep at night as they rage over the reality that Harris got the biggest majority ever given to an Ontari-owe premier!!!!!!!!


And people like Hoid give themselves stress ailments as they agonize over the failure of ALL LIE-beral policy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As Our idiot Bopy Justin demonstrated with that Quebec woman- he has NO DEFENSE of his failed policies other than to shout "RACIST" at his critics and then call security!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Our idiot Boy demonstrates how vacuous and empty his morals and values are with that "racist" taunt!!!!!!!


He has had THREE YEARS to come up with some genuine verbal defense........and all he has is that misplaced name calling for a woman who asked a legitimate question about LIE-beral govt expenses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The idiot Boy demonstrates he is not fit to govern!!!!!!!!!!


And Hoid demonstrates that he wastes his vote on dictators and bigots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Danbones

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Maybe we could do a prisoner exchange for some of those poor pot heads that are in the slam for the max stamping license plates.
:)
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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The Provinces in turn downloaded a lot of their burden to the municipalities, such as having them provide low cost housing for the poor. The cities do that because it is preferable to having uncontrolled shanty towns spring up, as they do in other urban areas around the World. Since the GTA bears the brunt of most of the immigration into Canada to the tune of over a million a decade, it really should be the Feds covering the costs of relief housing construction as the need is directly a result of Federal immigration policies.


I don't disagree with anything you said, but Harris was not the architect of the downloading. Martin was and all provinces felt the pain during this time. There were a lot of unpopular Premieres during that time. In Harris' case, the province got a double whammy. First when Peterson bankrupted the province and Rae tried to spend his way out of a recession. Harris wasn't left a lot of wiggle room.

Were the cuts too deep?

I think they were, but you need only look to the mess Kathleen Wynne/Dalton McGuinty left behind to see they made an even bigger mess.
 

Curious Cdn

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I don't disagree with anything you said, but Harris was not the architect of the downloading. Martin was and all provinces felt the pain during this time. There were a lot of unpopular Premieres during that time. In Harris' case, the province got a double whammy. First when Peterson bankrupted the province and Rae tried to spend his way out of a recession. Harris wasn't left a lot of wiggle room.

Were the cuts too deep?

I think they were, but you need only look to the mess Kathleen Wynne/Dalton McGuinty left behind to see they made an even bigger mess.

I don't disagree with you, either. Martin drove it all and the shit rolled down hill. Now, Toronto has a big, expensive problem that is not of their making. I'd like to hear Doug the Thug say something in defence of the situation and shame the Feds into paying for low cost immigrant housing rather than attacking a city that rejected him.

Facts aren't your friends.

Alberta surpasses B.C. as immigration destination.

More and more international arrivals are settling in the largest prairie province

Robson Fletcher ·

CBC News · Posted: Oct 25, 2017 11:44 AM MT | Last Updated: October 25, 2017

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-recent-immigrants-2016-census-data-1.4370779

But come 2017/18

The international migration rate to CMAs in the Prairies and Atlantic Canada remained stable, while it grow in all other areas. Despite this, Regina still had the highest international migration rate at 2.1 per cent. This is the Queen City’s second consecutive year topping this stat.

Blah, blah, blah ...

http://www.immigrationdirect.ca/imm...-top-five-immigration-destinations/index.html
 

spilledthebeer

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I don't disagree with you, either. Martin drove it all and the shit rolled down hill. Now, Toronto has a big, expensive problem that is not of their making. I'd like to hear Doug the Thug say something in defence of the situation and shame the Feds into paying for low cost immigrant housing rather than attacking a city that rejected him.



Blah, blah, blah ...

http://www.immigrationdirect.ca/imm...-top-five-immigration-destinations/index.html


Oh that foolish Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He just CANNOT hide his fascist roots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He wants to put every politician he does not like into the nearest jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just like his political inspiration Adolf Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






LIE-berals have been handling Indian Affairs Ministry for 2 years and now native suicides are spiking! Congratulations Idiot Boy Justin!

PRESIDENT OBAMA ADMITTED HE IGNORED Russian election “meddling” in elections for 5 months- how come HE is not in trouble?

What`s worse- that Trump junior met with a Russian lawyer offering dirt on Clinton? Or that dirt on Clinton might have been available?

Sun media compares Cdn Safety Minister Ralph Goodale to Saddam Hussein Iraqi information minister “Comical Ali” for his B.S. press conferences- the shoe fits!

WE can pay for health care OR we can pay for civil service Hog pensions- but NOT BOTH! Which is more important to Cdn MAJORITY?

Toronto mayor Sorry John Tory says he must have more money to fix Toronto. Either he must raise taxes- and face voter wrath- or admit he is a bad/wasteful mayor who considers that loading up the civil service union gravy train is more important than things like repairing affordable hosuing or expanding our badly needed public transit .

Sorry John Tory says he needs more money and that the province must supply it- province says feds must supply it-but who will supply the feds?

LOTS of new jobs being created in Canada this month! Too bad they are part time with shit wages that are below inflation rates!

And how is it LIE-berals consider it to be good news that 28,000 Cdns lost full time jobs that they could actually live on in July 2018 and those good jobs were replaced by 82,000 part time jobs- meaning crap work that people CANNOT live on- and LIE-berals think this is good?

I suggest that LIE-berals want us working crappy part time jobs because it makes us easier to BRIBE- if we are financially desperate.

A LIE-beral called me a racist today because I offer blanket condemnation of Liberals and their destructive values. Soon it may be a HATE crime to criticize a Liberal?

Will Our idiot Boy Justin be brazen enough to run in the 2019 election after ALL Liberal policy has been exposed as FAILURE?

Yankee news media is offended and envious that Trump would serve up insults to them that are more clever than those they throw at him.

Our Muddled Imbecile Justin said he approves of the Trump order to bomb Syria-Our idiot Boy is probably AFRAID to disagree -rather than speak his mind again and lose even more votes!

Assad drenches the children of people he hates in nerve gas-and Justin says we should engage Assad in dialogue-what will he possibly say to Assad?

Justin says he would talk to ISIS butchers-do you think they would let Our idiot Boy finish talking before they behead him?

LIE-berals say Cdn employment is up slightly due to people becoming self employed- but I say it’s a sign of desperation when people try to BUY jobs for themselves using their life savings- considering that 95 percent of new businesses die in their first year of operation and 95 percent more die within 5 years!

Liberal party values are increasingly at odds with what ordinary Cdns think.

Liberals do not believe that a civil service union with a stranglehold on a govt service has less business credit than a private company selling a product people want to buy.

LIE-berals refuse to believe that Cdns are uneasy with so called LIE-beral security that is filled with loopholes.

Many Cdns do not believe that LIE-beral mandated changes to our immigration law are in our best interests.

Many Cdns believe that our legal system should finally pick one of the following policies: Rehabilitation. Punishment. Or simple quarantine so dangerous thugs never get loose again.

Many Cdns think it is a disgrace that 7 accused murderers were released in late June because a trial could not be arranged in reasonable time.

Many Cdns have come to recognize that it is ONLY LIE-beral govt greed driving inflation and not private sector influence.

Many Cdns regard our growing debt with fear- as LIE-berals scoff and dig us even deeper.

Many Cdns believe LIE-beral greed will turn us into a bankrupt mess just like Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain.

Many Cdns recognize that the LIE-beral designed wind and solar policy is a total and costly failure.

Many Cdns recognize that selling green energy at a huge loss to Yankees- while LIE-beral friends get rich, is bad for us.

Many Cdns recognize that it is the LIE-beral order to buy all green energy regardless of our needs that is driving hydro rates up.

When the new govt arrives in Queens Park- job one will be to either cancel or massively alter green energy contracts.

Many Cdns recognize that those who benefit most from crappy green energy contracts are often LIE-beral Pals!

Obama knew for five months that Russians were screwing with Yankee election and did nothing- yet somehow it is Trumps fault?

Grossly bigoted LIE-beral multicultural policy is creating fertile ground for future race riots in Canada.

Most Cdns think Sharia Law offers reduced civil rights compared to current Cdn law- therefore bringing in Muslims is damaging to Cdn democracy.

LIE-beral anti Islamophobia policy is so biased it is actually CREATING hate instead of ending it!

LIE-beral environmental policy dictates that those with the largest carbon footprint should continue spewing it for the good of the economy while those with the smallest carbon footprint should shrink it further for the sake of the environment- regardless of how difficult life becomes for the little people!

Oh that foolish Hoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He just CANNOT hide his fascist roots!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



He wants to put every politician he does not like into the nearest jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just like his political inspiration Adolf Hitler!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!






LIE-berals have been handling Indian Affairs Ministry for 2 years and now native suicides are spiking! Congratulations Idiot Boy Justin!

PRESIDENT OBAMA ADMITTED HE IGNORED Russian election “meddling” in elections for 5 months- how come HE is not in trouble?

What`s worse- that Trump junior met with a Russian lawyer offering dirt on Clinton? Or that dirt on Clinton might have been available?

Sun media compares Cdn Safety Minister Ralph Goodale to Saddam Hussein Iraqi information minister “Comical Ali” for his B.S. press conferences- the shoe fits!

WE can pay for health care OR we can pay for civil service Hog pensions- but NOT BOTH! Which is more important to Cdn MAJORITY?

Toronto mayor Sorry John Tory says he must have more money to fix Toronto. Either he must raise taxes- and face voter wrath- or admit he is a bad/wasteful mayor who considers that loading up the civil service union gravy train is more important than things like repairing affordable hosuing or expanding our badly needed public transit .

Sorry John Tory says he needs more money and that the province must supply it- province says feds must supply it-but who will supply the feds?

LOTS of new jobs being created in Canada this month! Too bad they are part time with shit wages that are below inflation rates!

And how is it LIE-berals consider it to be good news that 28,000 Cdns lost full time jobs that they could actually live on in July 2018 and those good jobs were replaced by 82,000 part time jobs- meaning crap work that people CANNOT live on- and LIE-berals think this is good?

I suggest that LIE-berals want us working crappy part time jobs because it makes us easier to BRIBE- if we are financially desperate.

A LIE-beral called me a racist today because I offer blanket condemnation of Liberals and their destructive values. Soon it may be a HATE crime to criticize a Liberal?

Will Our idiot Boy Justin be brazen enough to run in the 2019 election after ALL Liberal policy has been exposed as FAILURE?

Yankee news media is offended and envious that Trump would serve up insults to them that are more clever than those they throw at him.

Our Muddled Imbecile Justin said he approves of the Trump order to bomb Syria-Our idiot Boy is probably AFRAID to disagree -rather than speak his mind again and lose even more votes!

Assad drenches the children of people he hates in nerve gas-and Justin says we should engage Assad in dialogue-what will he possibly say to Assad?

Justin says he would talk to ISIS butchers-do you think they would let Our idiot Boy finish talking before they behead him?

LIE-berals say Cdn employment is up slightly due to people becoming self employed- but I say it’s a sign of desperation when people try to BUY jobs for themselves using their life savings- considering that 95 percent of new businesses die in their first year of operation and 95 percent more die within 5 years!

Liberal party values are increasingly at odds with what ordinary Cdns think.

Liberals do not believe that a civil service union with a stranglehold on a govt service has less business credit than a private company selling a product people want to buy.

LIE-berals refuse to believe that Cdns are uneasy with so called LIE-beral security that is filled with loopholes.

Many Cdns do not believe that LIE-beral mandated changes to our immigration law are in our best interests.

Many Cdns believe that our legal system should finally pick one of the following policies: Rehabilitation. Punishment. Or simple quarantine so dangerous thugs never get loose again.

Many Cdns think it is a disgrace that 7 accused murderers were released in late June because a trial could not be arranged in reasonable time.

Many Cdns have come to recognize that it is ONLY LIE-beral govt greed driving inflation and not private sector influence.

Many Cdns regard our growing debt with fear- as LIE-berals scoff and dig us even deeper.

Many Cdns believe LIE-beral greed will turn us into a bankrupt mess just like Portugal, Ireland, Greece and Spain.

Many Cdns recognize that the LIE-beral designed wind and solar policy is a total and costly failure.

Many Cdns recognize that selling green energy at a huge loss to Yankees- while LIE-beral friends get rich, is bad for us.

Many Cdns recognize that it is the LIE-beral order to buy all green energy regardless of our needs that is driving hydro rates up.

When the new govt arrives in Queens Park- job one will be to either cancel or massively alter green energy contracts.

Many Cdns recognize that those who benefit most from crappy green energy contracts are often LIE-beral Pals!

Obama knew for five months that Russians were screwing with Yankee election and did nothing- yet somehow it is Trumps fault?

Grossly bigoted LIE-beral multicultural policy is creating fertile ground for future race riots in Canada.

Most Cdns think Sharia Law offers reduced civil rights compared to current Cdn law- therefore bringing in Muslims is damaging to Cdn democracy.

LIE-beral anti Islamophobia policy is so biased it is actually CREATING hate instead of ending it!

LIE-beral environmental policy dictates that those with the largest carbon footprint should continue spewing it for the good of the economy while those with the smallest carbon footprint should shrink it further for the sake of the environment- regardless of how difficult life becomes for the little people!


As for the fascist LIE-beral enthusiasm for putting people they dont like in jail- be careful what you wish for- Ontari-owe LIE-berals have been PROVEN to have run the most corrupt regime in Ontari-owe history!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

spilledthebeer

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Yet another Ford **** up.


Educators slam Ford’s ‘snitch line’ for teachers who defy sex ed rollback
https://www.thestar.com/news/queens...ne-for-teachers-who-defy-sex-ed-rollback.html


Poor LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


All their troubles ARE SELF INFLICTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


When Wynne-bag rolled out the new sex ed curriculum- it was mainly visible minorities that protested it most loudly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- prominent among the protestors objecting to the sex ed curriculum with its detailed information about gay rights and assorted other "non traditional" sexual roles at Queens Park were Muslim groups!!!!!!!!



With ordinary Cdns simply stating that LIE-berals were giving to much hard core information to kids who were to young!!!!!!!!!


The majority of Cdns objected on the grounds that the sex ed curriculum should be shifted up a couple of grades to somewhat older kids!


And now LIE-berals are whining that their radical curriculum that ONLY satisified a radical few is being reworked by Conservatives- while strongly rejected LIE-berals stand on the sidelines!


It is only civil service union Hogs- and assorted LIE-beral hangers on who hate Ford anyway- that are bleating about the sex ed curriculum!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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...because a mountain of previously Provincial expenditures (such as housing for the poor) was downloaded on the City during the Harris years. Toronto has no power of taxation besides user fees and property taxes. The latter are too politically unpopular to raise, despite Toronto having (by far) the lowest Mill Rate of the GTA. More responsibilities to a rapidly growing population with no new revenues coming in ...


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Silly LIE-beralx GIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You answer your own question by pointing out that Toronto has the lowest property tax rates of any city in Ontari-owe!!!!!!!!!!

And what you DONT MENTION is that Toronto ALREADY GETS TEN TIMES MORE p-er citizen than any other Ontari-owe municipality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is an article illustrating yet again that LIE-beral govt could not run a hamburger stand at a profit-not even if you give them the beef for free! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Toronto Community Housing Corporation plagued by ballooning arrears

By Sue-Ann Levy, Toronto Sun. First posted: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 08:00 PM EDT | Updated: Wednesday, April 19, 2017 08:59 PM EDT

A newly released report from Toronto Community Housing Corporation (TCHC) proves the beleaguered housing authority has both a spending and a revenue problem - largely of their own making.

The 12-page “arrears management” report on the agenda of next week’s board meeting shows the amount of rent and parking owed to the corporation (and uncollected) has doubled in five years from $6.9 million in 2012 to $12.8 million in 2016.

The number of units with arrears outstanding has increased nearly 50% during that same time period from 6,719 to 10,032.

This inability to get the mounting arrears under control occurred even as TCHC officials put new arrears collection measures into place in August of 2014, hired 26 new clerks to deal with the improved process in early 2015 and initiated extensive training of staff on the process from March to May, 2015, according to the report.

The report also shows that the point at which legal means are able to curtail the arrears - that is notices of eviction and Landlord and Tenant Board action - has climbed from $5 million outstanding at the end of 2013 to $11 million outstanding in early 2017.

Based on this trend, the report predicts the arrears are slated to balloon to $14.4-million by year’s end. That’s $14.4-million the forever cash-strapped housing authority could use to improve the quality of life for tenants.

(Its also 14.4 million they will not be able to hand out as bonuses for already overpaid Hogs at TCHC! They will just whine till the city gives them more!)

In fairness, as TCHC spokesperson Brayden Akers points out, the housing authority has done a better job of negotiating repayment agreements with vulnerable tenants since 2013.

(Oh that is SWELL- dead beat drug dealers and their addicts and the hookers who entertain them all are now `negotiating` with their landlords to decide what amount of rent they FEEL LIKE paying!)

As a result, the number of arrears subject to some form of repayment agreement has jumped from 18% to 41% between 2012 and 2016.

“By utilizing reasonable repayment agreements as a resolution tactic, TCHC is able to preserve tenancies among a growing number of vulnerable tenants,” Akers said.

However, if you look closely at the growth in absolute numbers, the difference between what is owed and what is subject to a repayment agreement in 2016- $7,603,685 is more than what was owed entirely in 2012 -$6,913,228.

(The `negotiating` tactic is NOT WORKING! The more flexible Housing authorities get about being paid- the more they are FORCED to be flexible by tenants who are growing ever more skilled at fleecing the system!)

(Things are not improved by authorities who seem to think it is a sacred duty to house people no matter what sort of mess they make-the only tool govt has for controlling rotten tenants is swift and final eviction but govt will not use that tool for fear of causing hardship amongst those who are ripping us off!)

And Akers did acknowledge that the repayment agreements represent debt the corporation must still carry during the life of each respective agreement.

(So once the tenant moves out and goes some place else-maybe to another unit within another Toronto Housing building-the debt is just forgotten? And once debt is forgotten then govt does not have to report on its losses and poor management to any higher authority? Is MTHC becoming a classic money pit?)

While the report proposes changes that should have been used already to identify outstanding arrears faster, the glaring issue - besides negligence - becomes apparent on the final page of the report.

The arrears management system is not automated! Akers confirmed that TCHC officials are still tracking outstanding tenant debts with a “combination of spreadsheets and paper forms.”

(Should we ask if the use of paper forms makes it EASIER to hide arrears and other such screw ups and this is WHY govt prefers paper over automation? Or is the notorious computer scam that tarnished City Hall a few years back still haunting city authorities to the point they wont try to automate anything?)

In fact, the report notes that “customer service and records management is supported by paper records- which are often stale”.

(Would the pile of `stale` old files being pretty much ignored, reflect the reality of how little chance there is of collecting on those debts? Just how casual has rent collection become in TCHC?))

Little wonder, as the Sun revealed in mid-2015, tenant Galal Donia lived in Toronto housing from 1994 until finally evicted at the end of 2015 without paying more than $65,000 in rent arrears.

(IN fairness, TCHC buildings are pig pens but which came first- the tenant PIGS like Donia or the Pens such as he live in- often nearly rent free?)

A report by commissioner of housing equity Cynthia Summers - obtained by the Sun during that time - attributed the situation partly to a wily tenant who knew how to play the system and the rest to ineptitude by TCHC officials who allowed the situation to get out of hand.

(And should we expect the situation to get worse now that Toronto has declared itself a “Sanctuary City”? Is TCHC rapidly filling up with smart ass clowns who know how to avoid paying and who city officials wont evict and who federal LIE-berals will not deport under any circumstances? How out of control is TCHC becoming? And why should we put another penny into this slow moving long running train wreck?)

(Mayor Jackass John Tory has said that unless somebody gives him money to make major repairs very soon, then TCHC buildings will become so rotten they will be condemned and forced to close up and cease renting units-I have to say this sounds like a VIABLE PLAN for getting TCHC under fiscal control! Let the money pit fill in with rubble from its own collapsing buildings rather than going with the current plan to simply fill the fiscal hole with tax dollars!)
 

Cannuck

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Why hasn’t Toronto improved its infrastructure, it floods the low lying areas every time it rains.

I love how ridiculously clueless you are about the infrastructure deficit. To be fair though, you're pretty clueless about everything.
 

Danbones

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You are an angry fellow.

Ontario PCs are really screwing up badly
Why? Because they are NOT PEDOS?

I hear the liebarrel sex plan was drafted by a convicted pedophile...
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is that true?

TORONTO — A man who was once Ontario’s deputy minister of education has pleaded guilty to three child pornography-related charges in a Toronto court.

Benjamin Levin, who was also a university professor, entered a guilty plea for making written child pornography, counselling a person to commit a sexual assault, and possession of child pornography.

He was originally charged with seven child-pornography-related offences.

The investigation that led to Levin’s July 2013 arrest began in mid-2012 after officials in Toronto were contacted by authorities in New Zealand and later police in London, Ont.

From late 2004 to early 2007, Levin held the post of deputy education minister in Ontario, and was on Ontario Premier Kathleen Wynne’s transition team as she took office.

He also served as Manitoba’s deputy minister of advanced education and deputy minister of education, training and youth between 1999 and 2002.

Levin has been back in the spotlight in recent days as Ontario released an updated sex-education curriculum.

Conservative MP Cheryl Gallant has criticized the curriculum in Parliament, suggesting Levin may have had a hand in developing the document.
https://nationalpost.com/news/canad...ter-pleads-guilty-to-three-child-porn-charges
 
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