Thugs get excited, they get violent. Usually against women and minorities. This is completely unsurprising from a Farage disciple.
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What a strange comment.
What evidence have you got that this man has any links whatsoever to Ukip? And what evidence have you got that people linked to Ukip are somehow inherently more violent than other people? You know nothing about the man or his political views or his motives - if he had any - for shooting and stabbing this MP. For all you know he could be a schizophrenic.
No, it won't. The vast majority of people who have made up their minds will not change their minds. The Leave campaign will win.
Also, what has this murder got to do with the referendum campaign?
Hyar 'tis. . .
LONDON — The man detained by police in connection with the killing of a rising star of British politics had longstanding ties to a U.S.-based neo-Nazi organization
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...p-top-table-main_britain-425am:homepage/story
Where's his links to Ukip?
What has this murder got to do with the EU referendum campaign?
It's also being reported in today's Daily Mail that Tommy Mair has a history of mental health problems.
Where's your evidence that this man has links to Ukip? If you can't find any, then Ukip can get you done for slander.
Nazis gonna Naz.
Oooo! Oooo! I'm a-skeered!
Seriously, why don't you just threated to tell the teacher?
And there are people who are already angry that some MPs and the Remain camp - like some people on hre - are politicising this murder.
'Making political capital out of this is disgusting': Labour MP faces backlash after appearing on Newsnight to criticise Leave campaign's 'dangerous material' just hours after Jo Cox's tragic murder
Labour MP Neil Coyle criticised for trying to 'politicise' murder of Jo Cox
37-year-old is accused of 'making political capital' out of colleague's death
Appeared to criticise Leave Campaign's 'dangerous material' on Newsnight
Also criticised UKIP's new Brexit poster depicting thousands of migrants
Mother-of-two Mrs Cox, 41, died after being shot and stabbed yesterday
A Labour MP has been accused of trying to politicise the tragic murder of his colleague Jo Cox after appearing on Newsnight just hours after her death to criticise the 'dangerous material' published by the Leave campaign.
Neil Coyle, Labour MP for Bermondsey and Southwark, said Leave campaigners were putting out 'very dangerous' material which 'risks inspiring the hard-right' as he commented on Mrs Cox's death.
He also appeared to suggest the attacker who ambushed the 41-year-old outside a West Yorkshire library may have been politically motivated and criticised UKIP's new poster depicting migrants.
Neil Coyle, 37, (pictured) Labour MP for Bermondsey and Southwark, said Leave campaigners were putting out 'dangerous' material which 'risks inspiring the hard-right' as he spoke about Jo Cox's death on Newsnight
Many social media users were quick to criticise the 37-year-old, accusing him of politicising Mrs Cox's death
Mrs Cox, a married mother-of-two, was shot three times - once in the head - and stabbed repeatedly by an attacker who ambushed her as she arrived for a constituency surgery yesterday afternoon.
The MP, who was elected to cover the Batley and Spen area of West Yorkshire last year, died from catastrophic injuries a short time after the incident which sent shockwaves around Westminster.
It has been claimed her attacker shouted 'Britain First' as he carried out the horrific killing. A 52-year-old man, named as 'loner' Tommy Mair, has been arrested in connection and is in custody.
There is unconfirmed evidence Mair, who is said to have mental health problems, supported far-Right causes and detectives are questioning whether the killing was motivated by his political beliefs.
Appearing on Newsnight last night following her death, Mr Coyle - a friend and colleague of Ms Cox - said the Leave campaign should be 'careful' about the material it publishes ahead of next week's EU referendum.
He also made reference to a poster published by UKIP yesterday, which showed thousands of male refugees flooding into Europe. Just hours after being released, it was branded 'fundamentally racist'.
It came as both sides of the EU battle agreed to stop campaigning for a day in honour of Mrs Cox.
He said: 'I think that the kind of nonsense that they inspire online from anonymous accounts and actually the core content of the poster they launched today, look at what they are putting out and I just think that they are a very dangerous, and they risk inspiring extremist elements on the hard right in this country.'
Several people took to Twitter to accuse Mr Coyle of trying to make 'political capital' out of Mrs Cox's death
So no evidence then. Okay.
'Making political capital out of this is disgusting': Labour MP faces backlash after appearing on Newsnight to criticise Leave campaign's 'dangerous material' just hours after Jo Cox's tragic murder
Labour MP Neil Coyle criticised for trying to 'politicise' murder of Jo Cox
37-year-old is accused of 'making political capital' out of colleague's death
Appeared to criticise Leave Campaign's 'dangerous material' on Newsnight
Also criticised UKIP's new Brexit poster depicting thousands of migrants
Mother-of-two Mrs Cox, 41, died after being shot and stabbed yesterday
A Labour MP has been accused of trying to politicise the tragic murder of his colleague Jo Cox after appearing on Newsnight just hours after her death to criticise the 'dangerous material' published by the Leave campaign.
Neil Coyle, Labour MP for Bermondsey and Southwark, said Leave campaigners were putting out 'very dangerous' material which 'risks inspiring the hard-right' as he commented on Mrs Cox's death.
He also appeared to suggest the attacker who ambushed the 41-year-old outside a West Yorkshire library may have been politically motivated and criticised UKIP's new poster depicting migrants.
Neil Coyle, 37, (pictured) Labour MP for Bermondsey and Southwark, said Leave campaigners were putting out 'dangerous' material which 'risks inspiring the hard-right' as he spoke about Jo Cox's death on Newsnight
Many social media users were quick to criticise the 37-year-old, accusing him of politicising Mrs Cox's death
Mrs Cox, a married mother-of-two, was shot three times - once in the head - and stabbed repeatedly by an attacker who ambushed her as she arrived for a constituency surgery yesterday afternoon.
The MP, who was elected to cover the Batley and Spen area of West Yorkshire last year, died from catastrophic injuries a short time after the incident which sent shockwaves around Westminster.
It has been claimed her attacker shouted 'Britain First' as he carried out the horrific killing. A 52-year-old man, named as 'loner' Tommy Mair, has been arrested in connection and is in custody.
There is unconfirmed evidence Mair, who is said to have mental health problems, supported far-Right causes and detectives are questioning whether the killing was motivated by his political beliefs.
Appearing on Newsnight last night following her death, Mr Coyle - a friend and colleague of Ms Cox - said the Leave campaign should be 'careful' about the material it publishes ahead of next week's EU referendum.
He also made reference to a poster published by UKIP yesterday, which showed thousands of male refugees flooding into Europe. Just hours after being released, it was branded 'fundamentally racist'.
It came as both sides of the EU battle agreed to stop campaigning for a day in honour of Mrs Cox.
He said: 'I think that the kind of nonsense that they inspire online from anonymous accounts and actually the core content of the poster they launched today, look at what they are putting out and I just think that they are a very dangerous, and they risk inspiring extremist elements on the hard right in this country.'
Several people took to Twitter to accuse Mr Coyle of trying to make 'political capital' out of Mrs Cox's death
However, many were quick to criticise the 37-year-old, accusing him of politicising Mrs Cox's death.
Topsaroola wrote: 'How disgusting to even try and politicise this dreadful news into some stay in the EU cr*p. Give it a bl***y rest. RIP Jo'
Paul Butler added: 'As soon as I think MP's can't go any lower they surprise me again. Political gain on the back of a colleague's death.'
Jo Cox, 41, (pictured) was shot and repeatedly stabbed as she made her way to a constituency surgery in Birstall, near Leeds, yesterday afternoon
Kev O'Connell said: 'This Neil Coyle is a disgusting cheap nasty spin merchant just hours after her murder.'
Another user, writing under the Twitter handle Daiitoku, said: 'Neil Coyle needs to give his head a wobble. Making political capital out of this is disgusting.'
Eugene Hollister wrote: '@BBCNewsnight How could you're (sic) programme have this disgusting MP on trying to politicise this appalling event?!'
And Christopher Christie said: 'A tragic event that transcends politics. MPs shamelessly exploiting this outrage for political expediency should be deselected.'
User Baz also appeared to criticise the BBC for airing the programme. '@BBCNewsnight new low for Newsnight. Using a terrible event for their own ends #brexit,' he tweeted.
Meanwhile Phil Kitch wrote: 'Shameful @coyleneil. Very inappropriate to exploit death of an MP to make political capital. Disgusting.'
Ana wrote: 'Repulsive that today was used to try and silence criticism. The UK needs no moral lectures from you #VoteLeave'.
And Jo Irving added: 'Please try not to make a political point about this cruel & senseless act. Always be 'unstable' citizens of whatever hue.'
However, others praised his Newsnight appearance, saying he made a 'moving tribute' to his friend.
Lit Chick wrote: 'We are all in shock and tears tonight. Thank you @coyleneil for keeping Southwark lovely. #ThankYourMP'
Meanwhile, Emma Burnell described his interview as 'emotional and raw', and Tony Grew said it was 'heartbreaking'.
Mr Coyle's reference to UKIP's new 'Breaking Point' Brexit poster came after it received widespread criticism for being ''fundamentally racist'.
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Nigel Farage's latest poster was 'disgusting' while Tory Treasury minister Harriet Baldwin hit out at the UKIP leader for 'vile xenophobia'.
MPs from all main Westminster parties hit out at the ad minutes after it was unveiled in Westminster.
Mr Coyle also appeared to suggest the attacker who ambushed 41-year-old Jo Cox outside a West Yorkshire library may have been politically motivated and criticised UKIP's new poster depicting migrants (pictured)
Ukip leader Nigel Farage unveiled the controversial poster in Westminster this morning but was immediately condemned by MPs from all main Westminster parties
Read more: Labour MP Neil Coyle faces backlash after criticising Leave EU on Newsnight | Daily Mail Online
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Topsaroola wrote: 'How disgusting to even try and politicise this dreadful news into some stay in the EU cr*p. Give it a bl***y rest. RIP Jo'
Paul Butler added: 'As soon as I think MP's can't go any lower they surprise me again. Political gain on the back of a colleague's death.'
Jo Cox, 41, (pictured) was shot and repeatedly stabbed as she made her way to a constituency surgery in Birstall, near Leeds, yesterday afternoon
Kev O'Connell said: 'This Neil Coyle is a disgusting cheap nasty spin merchant just hours after her murder.'
Another user, writing under the Twitter handle Daiitoku, said: 'Neil Coyle needs to give his head a wobble. Making political capital out of this is disgusting.'
Eugene Hollister wrote: '@BBCNewsnight How could you're (sic) programme have this disgusting MP on trying to politicise this appalling event?!'
And Christopher Christie said: 'A tragic event that transcends politics. MPs shamelessly exploiting this outrage for political expediency should be deselected.'
User Baz also appeared to criticise the BBC for airing the programme. '@BBCNewsnight new low for Newsnight. Using a terrible event for their own ends #brexit,' he tweeted.
Meanwhile Phil Kitch wrote: 'Shameful @coyleneil. Very inappropriate to exploit death of an MP to make political capital. Disgusting.'
Ana wrote: 'Repulsive that today was used to try and silence criticism. The UK needs no moral lectures from you #VoteLeave'.
And Jo Irving added: 'Please try not to make a political point about this cruel & senseless act. Always be 'unstable' citizens of whatever hue.'
However, others praised his Newsnight appearance, saying he made a 'moving tribute' to his friend.
Lit Chick wrote: 'We are all in shock and tears tonight. Thank you @coyleneil for keeping Southwark lovely. #ThankYourMP'
Meanwhile, Emma Burnell described his interview as 'emotional and raw', and Tony Grew said it was 'heartbreaking'.
Mr Coyle's reference to UKIP's new 'Breaking Point' Brexit poster came after it received widespread criticism for being ''fundamentally racist'.
Scottish First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said Nigel Farage's latest poster was 'disgusting' while Tory Treasury minister Harriet Baldwin hit out at the UKIP leader for 'vile xenophobia'.
MPs from all main Westminster parties hit out at the ad minutes after it was unveiled in Westminster.
Mr Coyle also appeared to suggest the attacker who ambushed 41-year-old Jo Cox outside a West Yorkshire library may have been politically motivated and criticised UKIP's new poster depicting migrants (pictured)
Ukip leader Nigel Farage unveiled the controversial poster in Westminster this morning but was immediately condemned by MPs from all main Westminster parties
Read more: Labour MP Neil Coyle faces backlash after criticising Leave EU on Newsnight | Daily Mail Online
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook
So no evidence then. Okay.
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Again, I want you to provide me with evidence that this murder has links with the EU referendum campaign.
It's digusting for Remain supporters to try to win a referendum they are badly losing by somehow trying to link this murder of a Remain supporter with the EU referendum campaign. They are using the murder of an MP to try and win a referendum. It's disgusting and it WON'T WORK. In fact, my betting is that it will only BOOST the Brexit campaign even further. People are angry with the Remain camp trying to smear the Leave camp here.
I love this reader's comment under an article on The Spectator website, a vile article which basically says that it looks like Leave is going to win the referendum and it therefore shows that British voters are "abandoning common sense" and that they "won't blame themselves" when "jobs go, workers’ rights disappear and living standards fall":
TheCitizenAct • 8 minutes ago
The behaviour of the MSM over the last 24 hours has been an absolute disgrace.
Whenever there is a terrorist atrocity they are all clambering over themselves to denounce any move to pin it to Islam - 27,000 jihadist attacks? No, that's Islamophobia. 40% of British Muslims support Sharia Law? No, that's Islamophobia. One white man shoots an MP? That's clearly a hate crime, to be blamed on the entire Brexit campaign.
All we've seen, across the entire MSM is universal condemnation of Brexit, and the conflation of what this man stood for with 'Brexit' values. This occurred within minutes of her stabbing, with a level of odiousness and giddiness particular to five year old children in candy factories, and absolutely none of the restraint they show towards Islam.
It's a bit like tying the attack of Stephen Timms in 2010, when he was stabbed by a Muslim who opposed his decision to vote in favour of the Iraq War, on all of Islam. That's what you're now legitimising. When the next terror atrocity occurs, it really is all of Islam's fault.
Really.
What's worse, is that ALL of their reports have already been contradicted by eyewitnesses, including the alleged murderer yelling 'Britain First.' You've destroyed any possibility of this man being given a fair trial, and thus you've probably guaranteed his release.
It just shows what an absolutely odious state we are in. Within minutes of her stabbing, he was being referred to as a 'Brexit voter', by both the MSM and politicians across the spectrum. You really are all in it together.
I'm also pretty disgusted with Rod Liddle's article in The Spectator. Disappointed, too, because I thought better of him. He says that Jo Cox MP was "shot and stabbed by a piece of human filth, a piece of white human filth" before then going on to say that the EU referendum should be called off "as a mark of respect." So he partakes in a bit of casual racism - can you imagine if the attacker had been a black man and Mr Liddle saying she had been "shot and stabbed by a piece of human filth, a piece of black human filth"? - and then says that we should call off a referendum - a referendum which most British people wanted - a great exercise in British democracy which looks as though the Brexit side are going to win.
It's disgraceful. The British Establishment is well and truly rattled with this EU referendum campaign. They are absolutely terrified that Britain is about to vote to leave the EU and we are now seeing their true vileness and disdain for the British voting public, now that the "little people" are about to defy them and vote to Leave. Their attempts to smear the entire Brexit campaign by linking them with this murder, and saying that the referendum should now be called off, shows just how much contempt the British Establishment and the Remain side have for the "little people" of Britain.
I did say before this referendum that, even if we vote to Leave, there'd be tanks on the streets before they actually do allow us to exit the EU. They won't accept a Leave vote. And we're sure heading that way. Saying that British voters are stupid and "abandoning commonsense" and saying that an entire referendum should be called off (would Liddle advocate calling off the referendum had Remain been easily winning?) is just a short step ignoring the will of the people once we vote to Leave to eventually putting tanks on the streets to quell mass uprisings.
The British people are rising up and they are terrifying the ruling Establishment. The "little people" are fighting back.
TheCitizenAct • 8 minutes ago
The behaviour of the MSM over the last 24 hours has been an absolute disgrace.
Whenever there is a terrorist atrocity they are all clambering over themselves to denounce any move to pin it to Islam - 27,000 jihadist attacks? No, that's Islamophobia. 40% of British Muslims support Sharia Law? No, that's Islamophobia. One white man shoots an MP? That's clearly a hate crime, to be blamed on the entire Brexit campaign.
All we've seen, across the entire MSM is universal condemnation of Brexit, and the conflation of what this man stood for with 'Brexit' values. This occurred within minutes of her stabbing, with a level of odiousness and giddiness particular to five year old children in candy factories, and absolutely none of the restraint they show towards Islam.
It's a bit like tying the attack of Stephen Timms in 2010, when he was stabbed by a Muslim who opposed his decision to vote in favour of the Iraq War, on all of Islam. That's what you're now legitimising. When the next terror atrocity occurs, it really is all of Islam's fault.
Really.
What's worse, is that ALL of their reports have already been contradicted by eyewitnesses, including the alleged murderer yelling 'Britain First.' You've destroyed any possibility of this man being given a fair trial, and thus you've probably guaranteed his release.
It just shows what an absolutely odious state we are in. Within minutes of her stabbing, he was being referred to as a 'Brexit voter', by both the MSM and politicians across the spectrum. You really are all in it together.
I'm also pretty disgusted with Rod Liddle's article in The Spectator. Disappointed, too, because I thought better of him. He says that Jo Cox MP was "shot and stabbed by a piece of human filth, a piece of white human filth" before then going on to say that the EU referendum should be called off "as a mark of respect." So he partakes in a bit of casual racism - can you imagine if the attacker had been a black man and Mr Liddle saying she had been "shot and stabbed by a piece of human filth, a piece of black human filth"? - and then says that we should call off a referendum - a referendum which most British people wanted - a great exercise in British democracy which looks as though the Brexit side are going to win.
It's disgraceful. The British Establishment is well and truly rattled with this EU referendum campaign. They are absolutely terrified that Britain is about to vote to leave the EU and we are now seeing their true vileness and disdain for the British voting public, now that the "little people" are about to defy them and vote to Leave. Their attempts to smear the entire Brexit campaign by linking them with this murder, and saying that the referendum should now be called off, shows just how much contempt the British Establishment and the Remain side have for the "little people" of Britain.
I did say before this referendum that, even if we vote to Leave, there'd be tanks on the streets before they actually do allow us to exit the EU. They won't accept a Leave vote. And we're sure heading that way. Saying that British voters are stupid and "abandoning commonsense" and saying that an entire referendum should be called off (would Liddle advocate calling off the referendum had Remain been easily winning?) is just a short step ignoring the will of the people once we vote to Leave to eventually putting tanks on the streets to quell mass uprisings.
The British people are rising up and they are terrifying the ruling Establishment. The "little people" are fighting back.
The last report I read said that was false. Just something printed by the guardian.
Why is it only communist countries need fences to keep their populace in?
Do tell what is an untrue fact? If it is untrue how can it be a fact?
We're seeing the British establishment and its media in its true colours right now. So rattled are they that the "little people" of Britain aren't going to behave and do as they are told and vote the "right" way (remain in the EU) in this referendum in six days' time that the establishment are now smearing the entire Leave campaign by somehow linking them to this murder of an MP. And you're right - it seems as though this man didn't shout "Britain First" after all. It seems as though we're being lied to.
And rather than being a boost to the Remain campaign, this surely is just going to be another boost for Brexit.
The entire British Establishment is now showing the world just how vile it is.
I've also noticed that The Spectator has disabled its comments function underneath that Rod Liddle article.
Correct, but it does centralize control of the wealth in a way that allows the very wealthy to drive it like they stole it
all correct (* especially the "I don't know") except for the part about "modern capitalism" that's these days called SOCIALISM
LOL
( you don't seem to understand the whole idea regarding the idea behind the EU, communist china, bank bailouts or things like Obama care much eh?)
so cite a so called "free market"
go ahead: point one out
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Yes, because he shouted "Britain first!," a well-known mental health advocacy slogan.