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Ron in Regina

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President Donald Trump expects his encounter with Russian President Vladimir Putin this week to be a “listening exercise,”
1755158893197.jpegWhite House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said Tuesday, sharply downplaying the possibility that a deal to end the war in Ukraine could be imminent despite a warning from the president last week that Kyiv needed to “get ready to sign something.” (???)

The lowered expectations for Friday’s meeting in Alaska came as Russia made significant battlefield gains in eastern Ukraine and appeared to be in little mood to offer concessions that might be necessary to achieve a durable halt in the fighting.

Leavitt made clear that the White House intends the summit as an opening face-to-face encounter, and not one that Trump expects will lead to a deal on the spot. Asked whether Trump might be willing to engage on issues that stray from resolving the war, such as thawing trade between Russia and the United States, Leavitt said the president intends to keep the focus on Ukraine.
Maybe he’ll do the mineral deal with Russia?
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Her comments amplified Trump’s remarks at a news conference Monday in which he had already started to dial back expectations, saying that “I may leave and say ‘good luck,’ and that’ll be the end.”

That’s a notably dampened outlook compared with last week, when Trump floated the idea of territorial concessions as part of a peace deal, with Ukraine giving up territory it controls in exchange for Russian pullouts from elsewhere in the country.
Last week, during a meeting with Armenian and Azerbaijani leaders, Trump gave a more expansive view of the potential for a deal on the Ukraine war, saying Zelensky needed to stop saying that he wasn’t authorized “to do certain things” under Ukrainian law, such as giving up territory.

“I said, ‘Well, you’re going to have to get it fast because, you know, we’re getting very close to a deal,’” Trump told reporters. “President Zelensky has to get all of his, everything he needs, because he’s going to have to get ready to sign something.”

Zelensky has been less positive about the talks than U.S. officials are.

The Friday meeting is Putin’s “personal victory,” Zelensky told reporters in Ukraine on Tuesday, saying that the Russian president will be able to use it as a photo opportunity to demonstrate his waning isolation. Asked why Zelensky was not being included in Friday’s summit, Leavitt said that it was because Trump “is agreeing to this meeting at the request of President Putin.” She said the hope was that the three leaders could meet together sometime soon.
 

Ron in Regina

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Trump listening should be interesting. And even if he does, will he comprehend?
Maybe, if the topic interests him. The hastily arranged summit, organised at Putin’s request, will be his first invitation to meet a US president on American soil since he visited George W Bush in 2007.

The surprise announcement caught Kyiv and its European allies off guard but for Putin it signals a preliminary diplomatic victory: a face to face with Trump requiring no concessions, and a step towards his goal of deciding Ukraine’s future at the table with Washington.

Key to Putin’s message on Friday will be an appeal to Trump’s business instincts. On Thursday, the Russian president’s adviser Yuri Ushakov said the leaders would discuss the “huge untapped potential” in Russia–US economic relations.

“An exchange of views is expected on further developing bilateral cooperation, including in the trade and economic sphere,” Ushakov said. “This cooperation has huge and, unfortunately so far, untapped potential.”
Reports — not denied by Washington — suggest that Trump might offer Moscow full control of Donetsk and the smaller neighbouring Luhansk region. In exchange, Moscow could offer a ceasefire and the freezing of the front line in other Ukrainian regions, as well as the retreat from tiny toeholds in Sumy and the northeastern Kharkiv region, according to the reports
Bullshit. The "mineral deal" revolves around Donetsk.
Maybe he’ll do the mineral deal with Russia?
Notably, alongside a cadre of veteran diplomats, Putin is bringing two prominent economic advisers. The inclusion of the finance minister, Anton Siluanov, is particularly notable: he has led Russia’s response to western sanctions, the removal of which the Kremlin has consistently set as a key condition for any peace deal.

Details of that meeting remain murky and at times contradictory. Witkoff, who often travels to Russia alone and without his own translators, is believed to have floated a proposal for Kyiv to cede full control of two regions in eastern Ukraine – Luhansk and Donetsk – in exchange for a ceasefire. Luhansk is almost completely occupied by Russia but Ukraine still controls a large portion of Donetsk, which it would have to voluntarily give up under this plan.
Witkoff initially told European partners that Russia was prepared to give up the territory it controlled in southern Ukraine. But after further talks with European leaders, it emerged that Moscow had no intention of ceding any land; instead it insisted that Kyiv surrender the areas it holds in the Donbas in return for a ceasefire that would lock in the frontlines elsewhere.

In Alaska (or Russia, depending on who’s talking about this meeting), Putin is likely to push for full control and US recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk as Russian territory, two sources in Moscow said.
(YouTube & Trump says he's meeting with Putin in Russia, but their summit is in Alaska)
 

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Maybe, if the topic interests him. The hastily arranged summit, organised at Putin’s request, will be his first invitation to meet a US president on American soil since he visited George W Bush in 2007.

The surprise announcement caught Kyiv and its European allies off guard but for Putin it signals a preliminary diplomatic victory: a face to face with Trump requiring no concessions, and a step towards his goal of deciding Ukraine’s future at the table with Washington.

Key to Putin’s message on Friday will be an appeal to Trump’s business instincts. On Thursday, the Russian president’s adviser Yuri Ushakov said the leaders would discuss the “huge untapped potential” in Russia–US economic relations.

“An exchange of views is expected on further developing bilateral cooperation, including in the trade and economic sphere,” Ushakov said. “This cooperation has huge and, unfortunately so far, untapped potential.”



Notably, alongside a cadre of veteran diplomats, Putin is bringing two prominent economic advisers. The inclusion of the finance minister, Anton Siluanov, is particularly notable: he has led Russia’s response to western sanctions, the removal of which the Kremlin has consistently set as a key condition for any peace deal.

Details of that meeting remain murky and at times contradictory. Witkoff, who often travels to Russia alone and without his own translators, is believed to have floated a proposal for Kyiv to cede full control of two regions in eastern Ukraine – Luhansk and Donetsk – in exchange for a ceasefire. Luhansk is almost completely occupied by Russia but Ukraine still controls a large portion of Donetsk, which it would have to voluntarily give up under this plan.
Witkoff initially told European partners that Russia was prepared to give up the territory it controlled in southern Ukraine. But after further talks with European leaders, it emerged that Moscow had no intention of ceding any land; instead it insisted that Kyiv surrender the areas it holds in the Donbas in return for a ceasefire that would lock in the frontlines elsewhere.

In Alaska (or Russia, depending on who’s talking about this meeting), Putin is likely to push for full control and US recognition of Donetsk and Luhansk as Russian territory, two sources in Moscow said.
(YouTube & Trump says he's meeting with Putin in Russia, but their summit is in Alaska)
Those extra cops and NG in DC will come in handy when the draft is announced on Saturday.