Omnibus Russia Ukraine crisis

Jinentonix

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B00Mer said:
BRICS is backed by Gold.

China and Russia are by loads of it.

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Don't matter when their economies are sinking faster than the Russian's Black Sea Fleet.

Putin has fucked himself into a corner. He can't afford to lose the war in Ukraine but he can't afford to win it either. If he loses, Russia will be on the hook for war reparations. If he wins, Russia is still gonna be on the hook for rebuilding Eastern Ukraine if they plan on utilizing it. Plus, he's got a bit of mess in his own country with failing infrastructure.

And yeah, Russia's economy got a bump but that's because it switched to a war time economy, which means it's a purely domestic economy. It's meaningless particularly since no one wants to buy Russian military junk anymore.

Bedpan is a fool shitting his pants over NATO anyway. It's China he should be worried about.
 
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petros

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Russian losses


Tanks — 7956 (+20)
Armored fighting vehicle — 15263 (+29)
Artillery systems — 13855 (+37)
MLRS — 1103 (+2)
Anti-aircraft warfare — 853 (+4)
Planes — 359
Helicopters — 326
UAV — 11148 (+51)
Cruise missiles — 2293 (+7)
Ships (boats) — 28
Submarines — 1
Cars and cisterns — 18911 (+57)
Special equipment — 2322 (+12)
Military personnel — aprx. 525150 people (+1090)
 
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Serryah

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Jim Wright · ·

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May be an image of submarine and text that says '4h fridaghitis Extraordinary images as a Russian nuclear-powered submarine emerges in Havana harbor, in Cuba, 90 miles from US shores, an unsubtle message from Putin to the West.'



https://www.facebook.com/groups/795...ZFTqsfjbF7C-ZegxWAT05JkIdyKWw&__tn__=<<,P-y-R

Jim Wright​


Yeah, it's a message all right.
That rusty bucket is one of Putin's very few remaining strategic nuclear assets.
I believe this is the Kazan, a Russian Yasen-M class fast attack boat. Pretty modern and fairly capable. But one of the very few modern vessels they have.
Note: It's nuclear POWERED, not armed with nuclear bombs.
(though, yes, it could technically carry tactical nuclear armed cruise missiles, though it would be unlikely for that ordinance to be onboard. Conventionally armed cruise missiles are a lot more useful)
It should be noted that this sub is part of a fleet deployment that includes the best surface ships the Russians have. But those ships are aging and maybe not in good repair and best is a relative term.
A deployment like this puts some serious wear and tear on those vessels -- something Russia is having a hard time with. There's a cost to doing this. Cost in maintenance. Cost in fuel. Cost in operations which includes logistics, support, communications, training, consumables, and whole host of other things. Equipment has a finite lifespan. The sea is harsh and unforgiving. When you put ships to sea, you're going to break stuff, that's how it works. There's always a risk and that risk is significantly increased when you don't have the specialized maritime repair and maintenance infrastructure to offset it.
There's a big cost to this sort of deployment.
Russia is in the middle of a war with Ukraine -- something else that's costing them an enormous amount of money and assets.
This war fleet has significant tactical strike capability, yet they've moved it OUTSIDE useful range in a war they're desperate to win.
Why?
Why would you move it AWAY from the theater of operations? Especially given the very significant cost and wear on the equipment?
Well, because the risk of LOSING it is greater than its tactical value in the conflict.
That's why.
So, yes, there's a message here all right.
But it's not the one CNN wants you to think it is, because speaking of unsubtle messages and submarines, you'll need a submarine to visit the Russian Black Sea flagship.
These ship aren't any sort of threat to the US, but Vladimir Putin and Republicans sure want to you think they are.
 
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Serryah said:

Stonekettle Station​

Jim Wright · ·

https://www.facebook.com/#
May be an image of submarine and text that says '4h fridaghitis Extraordinary images as a Russian nuclear-powered submarine emerges in Havana harbor, in Cuba, 90 miles from US shores, an unsubtle message from Putin to the West.''4h fridaghitis Extraordinary images as a Russian nuclear-powered submarine emerges in Havana harbor, in Cuba, 90 miles from US shores, an unsubtle message from Putin to the West.'

https://www.facebook.com/groups/795017370654044/user/100000762374540/?__cft__[0]=AZWHZvumFjUw8qkt-jjypxCl1ULdFLgGLk7tNjFg1bU1GS_G-GGtmYtU4zXoeEz2IPqK5smQ_E-0yW9GX33H5LS1OWmmyD3GrS4JxPjKVMrMDUZKz8d9jQH9osLpoy3RqzlK6uAODnEQSNV9x26IIrweJzJy5HZ6SHC74WGEnPhrObf_z8-yonszY8_9khp52upN4suOQkMLelsRJ-mBEQmdbjgKL9NaBAvWe-ZFTqsfjbF7C-ZegxWAT05JkIdyKWw&__tn__=<<,P-y-R

Jim Wright​


Yeah, it's a message all right.
That rusty bucket is one of Putin's very few remaining strategic nuclear assets.
I believe this is the Kazan, a Russian Yasen-M class fast attack boat. Pretty modern and fairly capable. But one of the very few modern vessels they have.
Note: It's nuclear POWERED, not armed with nuclear bombs.
(though, yes, it could technically carry tactical nuclear armed cruise missiles, though it would be unlikely for that ordinance to be onboard. Conventionally armed cruise missiles are a lot more useful)
It should be noted that this sub is part of a fleet deployment that includes the best surface ships the Russians have. But those ships are aging and maybe not in good repair and best is a relative term.
A deployment like this puts some serious wear and tear on those vessels -- something Russia is having a hard time with. There's a cost to doing this. Cost in maintenance. Cost in fuel. Cost in operations which includes logistics, support, communications, training, consumables, and whole host of other things. Equipment has a finite lifespan. The sea is harsh and unforgiving. When you put ships to sea, you're going to break stuff, that's how it works. There's always a risk and that risk is significantly increased when you don't have the specialized maritime repair and maintenance infrastructure to offset it.
There's a big cost to this sort of deployment.
Russia is in the middle of a war with Ukraine -- something else that's costing them an enormous amount of money and assets.
This war fleet has significant tactical strike capability, yet they've moved it OUTSIDE useful range in a war they're desperate to win.
Why?
Why would you move it AWAY from the theater of operations? Especially given the very significant cost and wear on the equipment?
Well, because the risk of LOSING it is greater than its tactical value in the conflict.
That's why.
So, yes, there's a message here all right.
But it's not the one CNN wants you to think it is, because speaking of unsubtle messages and submarines, you'll need a submarine to visit the Russian Black Sea flagship.
These ship aren't any sort of threat to the US, but Vladimir Putin and Republicans sure want to you think they are.
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Happens every year. Nobody sees them as a threat.
 
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Got your poop in a group?

NATO is in talks to deploy more nuclear weapons, taking them out of storage and placing them on standby, in the face of a growing threat from Russia and China, Stoltenberg told The Telegraph newspaper.6 hours ago

https://www.reuters.com › europeKremlin says NATO chief's nuclear weapons remarks are an escalation
 
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