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talloola

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I prefer the Euro style- hockey, fast, quick, skate, pass, make the play and not a lot of fights or dirty, injuring hits.

the big ice is fine for olympics or even world championships, but if the nhl played on the big ice with
all of their teams, it would be very 'boring'.

when the sedins and some other europeans were interviewed a while back, and asked if they would likethe nhl to be played on big ice, they quickly said "no". they like the faster, closer game, with
much more contact and excitement. we are looking at the best players gathered for olympics, not
a complete league, and not the intensity the olympics provides, the 82 games of the nhl could not
provide that calibre on all of the teams, and the play would get quite draggy and without intensity
as season went along.

on the smaller ice, there isn't time to think about pacing oneself, or slowing down, just can't do that
or someone is right there to take puck away.
 

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Here we go..........the 3rd period.

OOPS.........got a bit ahead of myself..........still in the 2nd but late in the P.
 

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I much prefer Olympic hockey where the rules are stricter, penalties harsher and players are forced to use their skills and not their brawn. Still there is an amazing amount of 'rough stuff' going on in this game and many other I watched.



Thanks for that, Bart.
:D did it give you hair raising images? :D
 

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the big ice is fine for olympics or even world championships, but if the nhl played on the big ice with
all of their teams, it would be very 'boring'.

when the sedins and some other europeans were interviewed a while back, and asked if they would likethe nhl to be played on big ice, they quickly said "no". they like the faster, closer game, with
much more contact and excitement. we are looking at the best players gathered for olympics, not
a complete league, and not the intensity the olympics provides, the 82 games of the nhl could not
provide that calibre on all of the teams, and the play would get quite draggy and without intensity
as season went along.

on the smaller ice, there isn't time to think about pacing oneself, or slowing down, just can't do that
or someone is right there to take puck away.

Good point,
 

talloola

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I much prefer Olympic hockey where the rules are stricter, penalties harsher and players are forced to use their skills and not their brawn. Still there is an amazing amount of 'rough stuff' going on in this game and many other I watched.

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that is the difference between nhl referring and ioc reffing, but has nothing to do with ice size.
 

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that is the difference between nhl referring and ioc reffing, but has nothing to do with ice size.

You're right, it doesn't talloola. I figure the ice size comes into play when the guys are passing as they have more ice to deal with?

Okay ........here we go..........3rd P underway.........fingers crossed.
 

talloola

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You're right, it doesn't talloola. I figure the ice size comes into play when the guys are passing as they have more ice to deal with?

they have more room to play, that is what would slow down nhl games, and we can't imagine the nhl
league play looking like the olympics, not many games would, until playoffs came around, and
teams that are at the lower end of the talent scale, would really struggle as the body contact
would decrease, any contact would decrease, and the nhl ending up with games that were mainly skating and passing, the buildings would begin to empty, there has to be much more to the
game than passing and shooting, the nhl needs the body checking, the speed both ways, the
closeness of bodies, and constant passionate and emotional input because of being so close
and not much room to move around, and the body checking and pushing and shoving creates that,
and that is a big part of the game at the top level.

i like what we are seeing for olympics, but it stops there for me.
 

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in related news, the earth was nearly knocked off its axis when mayor rob ford celebrated team Canada womens gold medal win. ;) :p I would have posted an animated gif if I could have found one.
 
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The Ladies have played much better than their NHL counterparts. They had the drive to win.

The men's tournament is 100x more competitive than the women's tournament, so it is hard to really compare the two.

It isn't like Canada hasn't been trying in these games. They peppered Latvia with almost 60 shots.

What has made the games boring is that these other teams are completely forgoing offense and just trying to play shut down defense. And because the other teams actually have reasonably competitive players, they can be pretty effective at it. It is just like when teams like NJ decided to start playing the trap. Sometime strategies that are pretty effective are also really boring to watch.

in related news, the earth was nearly knocked off its axis when mayor rob ford celebrated team Canada womens gold medal win. ;) :p I would have posted an animated gif if I could have found one.

Your wish is my command.

 

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The men's tournament is 100x more competitive than the women's tournament, so it is hard to really compare the two.

It isn't like Canada hasn't been trying in these games. They peppered Latvia with almost 60 shots.

What has made the games boring is that these other teams are completely forgoing offense and just trying to play shut down defense. And because the other teams actually have reasonably competitive players, they can be pretty effective at it. It is just like when teams like NJ decided to start playing the trap. Sometime strategies that are pretty effective are also really boring to watch.



Your wish is my command.

thanks. :) :cool:
 

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i liked the russian figure skater, thought she could be the winner of gold, but i also thought

the korean could have won, (was expected to win, and everyone thought she would win), both of

the performances were awsome, but i am left wondering just what the judges were thinking, and

why.
russian skater did have one stumble, not a fall, korean skater was
clean all the way through, and they both skated a high quality performance,
worthy of a medal.

korean skater is the defending gold medal winner, although she hasn't skated much this year,

but before she retired she wanted to defend her gold medal winning skate, but i wonder if the judges

punished her for 'not' being part of the skating world this year, and for that reason, did not

award her the gold medal. she could easily have been given the win, and everyone would have thought

that was the right thing to do.

again, we will never know, so i just left it, knowing they both skated awsome, as well as the italian

skater, who won the bronze, and women's figure skating is better now than it has ever been, so good on all of them.
 

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Mental note today ..... do not look at this thread or the reply notification till I see the game first :p
 

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It's all getting heated before the big curling match between Great Britain and Canada (or should that be Scotland vs Ontario?) later. The slanging off of the opponents is more like the eve of a big football match.

The British have derided their Canuckian rivals, calling them "Buff Boys" due to their love of pumping iron in the gym and because of their aggressive fist-pumping actions during matches, which the British claim go against the spirit of the sport (and the British should know. They invented it):

Winter Olympics 2014: Canada are too brash with the brush, say Sochi curling final rivals Great Britain

Coach Soren Gran criticises gym-loving rivals' aggressive fist-pumping antics which he claims go against the spirit of the sport


'Buff boy': Canada's skip, Brad Jacobs, screams in celebration during an earlier match in the competition Photo: AP



By Simon Hart, Sochi

20 Feb 2014
The Telegraph

The British men’s coach, Soren Gran, has raised the temperature ahead of Friday’s gold-medal curling match by accusing opponents Canada of going against the spirit of the sport with their aggressive, supercharged playing style.

The Canadian quartet, skipped by Brad Jacobs, have been labelled the ‘Buff Boys’ because of the long hours they spend pumping iron in the gym, and they proclaim on their official website that “we are no longer curlers, we are athletes”.

One former member of the squad, alternate player Matt Dumontelle, took the muscle-building even further by taking an anabolic steroid, for which he tested positive after last year’s World Championships and was given a two-year ban.

On the ice, the team’s brash antics have done little to endear them to the sport’s traditionalists.

Shots are routinely met with either fist-pumping celebrations or, when things go wrong, brushes being slammed down onto the ice in anger. Jacobs also has raised eyebrows by running down the ice in pursuit of his stones.

Their high-octane style is in total contrast to that of the British skip, David Murdoch, who has remained the epitome of calmness while navigating his team-mates through a nerve-shredding tiebreak against Norway and an equally tense semi-final against world champions Sweden to reach today’s final.

Gran, the former Swedish national coach whom Murdoch credits with turning round his playing career after he contemplated walking away from the sport three years ago, is in no doubt which kind of behaviour he prefers.

“The aggressive style we have seen from the Canadians here, that’s something I don’t like about the sport,” said Gran. “I don’t think it helps anyone. It doesn’t help the player and it doesn’t help his team-mates.

“I tell my guys to work a different way. If they miss a shot, they’ve got another 15 to play. You can’t be angry with the one you miss.”

Jacobs, who gained selection for Sochi along with his North Ontario team-mates after triumphing at the Canadian Championships without losing a single match, makes no apology for his team’s histrionics.


Hopefully the British lads will take the gold against the Buff Boys this afternoon

“I think what works well for us is that when we bring a lot of intensity out there,” he said on Thursday. “That’s our style. That’s the type of people we all are.”

Asked whether his behaviour was designed to intimidate his opponents, he replied: “You would have to ask other teams that. I don’t know whether we are bullies or intimidating. I really don’t know.”

Murdoch, who has been in sparkling form in recent matches and showed an iron nerve to deliver a last-stone wonder shot to defeat the Norwegians in the tiebreak match, is unlikely be too unnerved by the Canadians’ behaviour.

After Britain’s 6-5 triumph over Sweden on Wednesday, his three colleagues paid tribute to his calmness and for keeping the whole team on an even keel.

While Murdoch, 35, is competing in his third Games, his three team-mates – Michael Goodfellow, Scott Andrews and Greg Drummond – are making their Olympic debuts and none is older than 25.

“He’s a pretty cool guy on the ice,” said Drummond. “It probably does help that you’ve got a guy who’s got the last rock who’s pretty calm and collected and who just takes things in his stride. That probably does help the team. When you’re relaxed, you’re at your best.”

There is no doubt Britain will need to be at their best to defeat the highly-strung but brilliant Canadian rink, who lost only two matches in the round-robin series and brushed aside the Chinese with a 10-6 win in their semi-final.

But Jacobs and his men are also Olympic rookies, having only been on the international scene for the past year, and Murdoch will be looking to apply the pressure early on, even if that means a bit of shouting and brush-thumping from his opponents.

Gran said: “If I see the team we are playing against get aggressive and show anger, I think our guys should be happy because we’d have them exactly where we want them to be.”


Winter Olympics 2014: Canada are too brash with the brush, say Sochi curling final rivals Great Britain - Telegraph
 
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Winter Olympics 2014: Canada are too brash with the brush, say Sochi curling final rivals Great Britain

Sounds to me like the Brit squad is already conceding a loss to Canada.

Expect the Canucks to tear your lads a new assh*le in this match-up.

Like an Aussie friend of mine says: "That's not a game... That's a shame!"



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Hey there Blackie, just finished the third end and Canada is whopping your boys 5 - 1.

... Good thing you invented the game, eh?