Occupy Wall Street Fail
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They don't really have a message to begin, it's more or less an exercise in urban camping.
Angry Residents, Businesses Plan Anti-Occupy Wall Street Protest
Downtown residents and business owners angry that their neighborhood has been occupied for two months by the Wall Street demonstration are staging a protest of the protest Monday, declaring that City Hall has let it get out of control.
Angry over all-day drumming, people urinating and defecating on the streets and verbal attacks from protesters, organizers say they will rally at City Hall Monday to send officials a message.
"Laws are clearly being violated and we simply want them enforced," Lower Manhattan resident Linda Gertsman told NBC New York.
Exasperated residents and businesses said they are "pursuing all options," including lawsuits against the city, the mayor and the private company that owns Zuccotti Plaza, the encampment headquarters.
Organizers of the anti-Occupy protest posted fliers downtown that say "Mayor Bloomberg is helping them stay."
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Angry Residents, Businesses Plan Anti-Occupy Wall Street Protest | NBC New York
Downtown residents and business owners angry that their neighborhood has been occupied for two months by the Wall Street demonstration are staging a protest of the protest Monday, declaring that City Hall has let it get out of control.
Angry over all-day drumming, people urinating and defecating on the streets and verbal attacks from protesters, organizers say they will rally at City Hall Monday to send officials a message.
"Laws are clearly being violated and we simply want them enforced," Lower Manhattan resident Linda Gertsman told NBC New York.
Exasperated residents and businesses said they are "pursuing all options," including lawsuits against the city, the mayor and the private company that owns Zuccotti Plaza, the encampment headquarters.
Organizers of the anti-Occupy protest posted fliers downtown that say "Mayor Bloomberg is helping them stay."
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Angry Residents, Businesses Plan Anti-Occupy Wall Street Protest | NBC New York
Occupy Toronto protesters served eviction notice
Bylaw officers have served eviction notices to Occupy Toronto protesters, pinning sheets of paper to tents requesting that all traces of the campsite be removed immediately.
Toronto police officers accompanied bylaw officers as they went from tent to tent.
“We are working to ensure the bylaw officers can do their jobs properly,” Constable Wendy Drummond said.
Occupy Toronto protesters are planning a general assembly at noon to decide how best to respond to the eviction notices. Protesters have started packing up sound equipment in a black pick-up truck, and are moving it out of the park.
Stefonknee Wolscht, who deals with logistics for the camp, said protesters were being advised to pack up their tents and move to Nathan Phillips Square. Other equipment, including the medical and media tents, were being moved from the park onto adjacent church property, where occupiers believe they are allowed to remain.
“As long as we get anything off [park property] that can be damaged by police, I think we’re OK,” Ms. Wolscht said.
She said protesters were operating under the assumption that they could remain in the park after midnight, so long as the tents were dismantled.
“I’m not leaving here,” said Antonin Smith. “If I get arrested, I’ll come right back.”
One member of the group burned an eviction notice, while others milled around the park’s central gazebo, shouting slogans and brandishing signs, including: “Stand up, speak out and resist.”
“We don’t want to see a repeat of Wall Street,” said Taylor Chelsea, referring to the dismantling of the occupy protest in New York earlier Tuesday, which led to dozens of arrests. “We’re not leaving. We’re not going anywhere,” said Ryan Ansell.
As bylaw officers and police moved through the park, protesters blew whistles and beat drums.
Should the city follow through on plans to evict the group, “there would be a lot of people going to jail,” said demonstrator Andrew Logan MacKellar.
Occupy Toronto protesters evicted from St. James park | Posted Toronto | National Post
Bylaw officers have served eviction notices to Occupy Toronto protesters, pinning sheets of paper to tents requesting that all traces of the campsite be removed immediately.
Toronto police officers accompanied bylaw officers as they went from tent to tent.
“We are working to ensure the bylaw officers can do their jobs properly,” Constable Wendy Drummond said.
Occupy Toronto protesters are planning a general assembly at noon to decide how best to respond to the eviction notices. Protesters have started packing up sound equipment in a black pick-up truck, and are moving it out of the park.
Stefonknee Wolscht, who deals with logistics for the camp, said protesters were being advised to pack up their tents and move to Nathan Phillips Square. Other equipment, including the medical and media tents, were being moved from the park onto adjacent church property, where occupiers believe they are allowed to remain.
“As long as we get anything off [park property] that can be damaged by police, I think we’re OK,” Ms. Wolscht said.
She said protesters were operating under the assumption that they could remain in the park after midnight, so long as the tents were dismantled.
“I’m not leaving here,” said Antonin Smith. “If I get arrested, I’ll come right back.”
One member of the group burned an eviction notice, while others milled around the park’s central gazebo, shouting slogans and brandishing signs, including: “Stand up, speak out and resist.”
“We don’t want to see a repeat of Wall Street,” said Taylor Chelsea, referring to the dismantling of the occupy protest in New York earlier Tuesday, which led to dozens of arrests. “We’re not leaving. We’re not going anywhere,” said Ryan Ansell.
As bylaw officers and police moved through the park, protesters blew whistles and beat drums.
Should the city follow through on plans to evict the group, “there would be a lot of people going to jail,” said demonstrator Andrew Logan MacKellar.
Occupy Toronto protesters evicted from St. James park | Posted Toronto | National Post
Oh this is a good one kids...
Michael Moore explains why he’s different from other multi-millionaires
Michael Moore has a lengthy justification for his wealth on the web site he uses to sell his books, films and himself.
It’s called “Life among the 1%“, a group of which Moore has been claiming he’s not a member. In it, he seems to confess that, yes, he is a rich guy after all. But not like other rich guys. He’s a rich guy who comes from a working class background, who scraped and scrambled for his money, and who cares.When he sold his first documentary, he recounts, he was paid $3 million and immediately shared the good news “with a group of factory workers, students and the unemployed in the middle of the downtown of my birthplace, Flint, Michigan.”
Not only that, he shared the money. He paid every cent of tax owing (no loopholes or avoidance strategies), set up a foundation to help others, spent a small fortune buying stuff and paying debts for others, and put the rest in a savings account (no investments or Wall Street gizmos).
Finally, he says, “I made the decision that if I was going to earn a living, it would be done from my own sweat and ideas and creativity. I would produce something tangible, something others could own or be entertained by or learn from. My work would create employment for others, good employment with middle class wages and full health benefits.”
And that’s why he’s not really a member of the 1%, the “greedy, lazy class who didn’t produce any product, just misery and fear among the populace.” He makes his money honourably, in the old-fashioned way, not from capitalism. “Didn’t you take Econ 101? Capitalism is a system, a pyramid scheme of sorts, that exploits the vast majority so that the few at the top can enrich themselves more. I make my money the old school, honest way by making things. Some years I earn a boatload of cash. Other years, like last year, I don’t have a job (no movie, no book) and so I make a lot less.”
He makes things. And he shares his good fortune with others. That’s the basis of the pulpit he uses to denounce “the 1%”, the greedy, exploitative elite he despises. Yes, he shares their wealth and success, but he gives back, and sympathizes with workers, provides jobs at good salaries. Not like them.
Okay, let’s look at the 1%. In fact, let’s look at the 1% of the 1%, the wealthiest of the wealthy, according to the Forbes list:
Bill Gates: Makes things. Has created millions of jobs.
Warren Buffett: Owns dozens of companies that make things. Responsible for employing millions.
Larry Ellison: Makes things. Major employer. Gives away millions, says he’ll give away 95% of his wealth.
Koch brothers: Lefties may hate them, but they make things in numerous industries, employ 70,000 people and give money to many charities, just not the ones Moore and his pals favour.
George Soros: Hero of the left. Doesn’t make things. Got rich by betting against the British pound. A major player in the business of “making money off your money,” precisely the industry Moore denounces for creating a “greedy, lazy class who didn’t produce any product, just misery and fear among the populace.”
Michael Bloomberg: Makes things, or used to. Created an entire industry and untold jobs. Now he’s mayor of New York, though, and spent yesterday kicking OWS tentmongers out of the park.
Jeff Bezos: Does inventing Amazon.com count as “making things?” In any case he created an entire new sub-industry in online sales, which brought with it many new jobs.
Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Michael Dell, Steve Ballmer, the Mars family, Paul Allen — they all made their money by making things, the good old-fashioned honourable way.
Many invented new products that gave birth to previously unimagined industries and put tens of thousands of people to work, generating the revenue to support hundreds of thousands more. Computers, chocolate bars, software … it’s all stuff in demand, stuff people make with their hands, that pays well, funds mortgages and provides a degree of security for the future.
The only exception, in fact, is Soros, who got rich by playing with money but is exempted by the left because he supports their causes.
Were they all born rich? Bezos was born to a teen mother in Albuquerque. His stepfather was a Cuban immigrant who arrived alone at 15 and worked his way through school. Ellison’s mother was an unwed 19-year-old who sent him to be adopted by an aunt and uncle; he grew up in a two-bedroom apartment in Chicago. Bloomberg is the son of a Boston real estate agent. Zuckerberg’s father is a dentist. The recently-deceased Steve Jobs was given away by his parents at birth. His adoptive father was a machinist, his mother an accountant.
These are no silver-spoon fed plutocrats. So what makes Michael Moore so much worthier than them? Does he think his concern for the working class is greater than theirs? They’ve created more jobs, generated more money for mortgages and families, donated more money to worthy causes than Michael Moore can ever hope to. They built their own careers with their own hands, even invented their own products. Did Michael Moore invent documentaries? But they’re the 1% and he’s not. They’re to be despised and he’s not.
Not everyone on the list of the wealthiest is a generous creator of jobs, but many are. And they don’t leverage their own prosperity the way Moore does, using his political leanings as a come-on to peddle more books and other products. Moore’s web site is a canny capitalist marketing tool, weaving in updates on the travails of the OWS crowd with promos for his latest appearances and warnings that time is running out to get a signed first printing.
Compared to many of the 1% he spends so much denouncing, Moore has little to brag about. Though he does own a big house on a lake in Michigan, which is a long way away from Flint.
National Post
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Michael Moore explains why he’s different from other multi-millionaires | Full Comment | National Post
Michael Moore explains why he’s different from other multi-millionaires
Michael Moore has a lengthy justification for his wealth on the web site he uses to sell his books, films and himself.
It’s called “Life among the 1%“, a group of which Moore has been claiming he’s not a member. In it, he seems to confess that, yes, he is a rich guy after all. But not like other rich guys. He’s a rich guy who comes from a working class background, who scraped and scrambled for his money, and who cares.When he sold his first documentary, he recounts, he was paid $3 million and immediately shared the good news “with a group of factory workers, students and the unemployed in the middle of the downtown of my birthplace, Flint, Michigan.”
Not only that, he shared the money. He paid every cent of tax owing (no loopholes or avoidance strategies), set up a foundation to help others, spent a small fortune buying stuff and paying debts for others, and put the rest in a savings account (no investments or Wall Street gizmos).
Finally, he says, “I made the decision that if I was going to earn a living, it would be done from my own sweat and ideas and creativity. I would produce something tangible, something others could own or be entertained by or learn from. My work would create employment for others, good employment with middle class wages and full health benefits.”
And that’s why he’s not really a member of the 1%, the “greedy, lazy class who didn’t produce any product, just misery and fear among the populace.” He makes his money honourably, in the old-fashioned way, not from capitalism. “Didn’t you take Econ 101? Capitalism is a system, a pyramid scheme of sorts, that exploits the vast majority so that the few at the top can enrich themselves more. I make my money the old school, honest way by making things. Some years I earn a boatload of cash. Other years, like last year, I don’t have a job (no movie, no book) and so I make a lot less.”
He makes things. And he shares his good fortune with others. That’s the basis of the pulpit he uses to denounce “the 1%”, the greedy, exploitative elite he despises. Yes, he shares their wealth and success, but he gives back, and sympathizes with workers, provides jobs at good salaries. Not like them.
Okay, let’s look at the 1%. In fact, let’s look at the 1% of the 1%, the wealthiest of the wealthy, according to the Forbes list:
Bill Gates: Makes things. Has created millions of jobs.
Warren Buffett: Owns dozens of companies that make things. Responsible for employing millions.
Larry Ellison: Makes things. Major employer. Gives away millions, says he’ll give away 95% of his wealth.
Koch brothers: Lefties may hate them, but they make things in numerous industries, employ 70,000 people and give money to many charities, just not the ones Moore and his pals favour.
George Soros: Hero of the left. Doesn’t make things. Got rich by betting against the British pound. A major player in the business of “making money off your money,” precisely the industry Moore denounces for creating a “greedy, lazy class who didn’t produce any product, just misery and fear among the populace.”
Michael Bloomberg: Makes things, or used to. Created an entire industry and untold jobs. Now he’s mayor of New York, though, and spent yesterday kicking OWS tentmongers out of the park.
Jeff Bezos: Does inventing Amazon.com count as “making things?” In any case he created an entire new sub-industry in online sales, which brought with it many new jobs.
Mark Zuckerberg, Larry Page, Sergey Brin, Michael Dell, Steve Ballmer, the Mars family, Paul Allen — they all made their money by making things, the good old-fashioned honourable way.
Many invented new products that gave birth to previously unimagined industries and put tens of thousands of people to work, generating the revenue to support hundreds of thousands more. Computers, chocolate bars, software … it’s all stuff in demand, stuff people make with their hands, that pays well, funds mortgages and provides a degree of security for the future.
The only exception, in fact, is Soros, who got rich by playing with money but is exempted by the left because he supports their causes.
Were they all born rich? Bezos was born to a teen mother in Albuquerque. His stepfather was a Cuban immigrant who arrived alone at 15 and worked his way through school. Ellison’s mother was an unwed 19-year-old who sent him to be adopted by an aunt and uncle; he grew up in a two-bedroom apartment in Chicago. Bloomberg is the son of a Boston real estate agent. Zuckerberg’s father is a dentist. The recently-deceased Steve Jobs was given away by his parents at birth. His adoptive father was a machinist, his mother an accountant.
These are no silver-spoon fed plutocrats. So what makes Michael Moore so much worthier than them? Does he think his concern for the working class is greater than theirs? They’ve created more jobs, generated more money for mortgages and families, donated more money to worthy causes than Michael Moore can ever hope to. They built their own careers with their own hands, even invented their own products. Did Michael Moore invent documentaries? But they’re the 1% and he’s not. They’re to be despised and he’s not.
Not everyone on the list of the wealthiest is a generous creator of jobs, but many are. And they don’t leverage their own prosperity the way Moore does, using his political leanings as a come-on to peddle more books and other products. Moore’s web site is a canny capitalist marketing tool, weaving in updates on the travails of the OWS crowd with promos for his latest appearances and warnings that time is running out to get a signed first printing.
Compared to many of the 1% he spends so much denouncing, Moore has little to brag about. Though he does own a big house on a lake in Michigan, which is a long way away from Flint.
National Post
source:
Michael Moore explains why he’s different from other multi-millionaires | Full Comment | National Post
Michael Bloomberg 'makes things, or used to'?
Why is he any different from Soros? They're in the same business, or used to be.
Why is he any different from Soros? They're in the same business, or used to be.
A smart person at OWS explains himself well and makes a really great argument.
Enjoy if you dare watch. I think he's right on the money. That's our economies biggest problem.
The money is stuck at the top.
Engineer Explains Taxes at Occupy Wall Street - YouTube
Enjoy if you dare watch. I think he's right on the money. That's our economies biggest problem.
The money is stuck at the top.
Engineer Explains Taxes at Occupy Wall Street - YouTube
Yer only three weeks late:-(
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/u...1-occupy-wall-street-fail-37.html#post1495094
A well, I don't have time to look at all the post in this thread. **** happens.